Yeah, unfortunately I did miss that bit lol
When I arrived there, I took a bus into town on my way to my apartment, by the time I got to the bus stop I was desperate for a cigarette... and then proceeded to ask man if he had a fag. This was late at night as well. Almost got my lights punched out. Guess he thought I was propositioning him or something True story. Thankfully I don't smoke anymore, so this mistake won't happen again
It was about 2am I think and literally in the middle of no where - peeing in public is obviously not the greatest thing, but if you have to go, you have to go
Well you guys have to remember - these cops drove up on a situation that for all they knew the worst case scenario means they get shot by a high caliber weapon that pierces the steel heart plate on their vest and kills them.
being in the game industry we've got a really low chance of getting killed at work - makes us a bit soft and judgmental.
I have gotten 2 bogus speeding tickets since they decided to balance the state budget with traffic fines, but I don't lump traffic cops in with the beat cops.
Beat cops get a little more respect but that's starting to erode away as more and more of them seem to go from zero to twitchy in .02 sec. Those are the ones they need to weed out. Those are not the rock solid career cops we need, they're the ones that either get shot or shoot someone.
I hate to say it but a lot of the cops we have today aren't the right type of people. Those guys joined the military and are off policing other countries and getting their asses blow up. The fill in rookies we have lack the life experience to put things in perspective. It just seems that guys like Birk haven't been through enough to not sweat the little stuff.
We only heard about this because he did such a bad job of covering it up and he shot one of the nicest drunken homeless woodcarvers around. I bought a totem off him on the waterfront, he was odd and stinky but his knife was his paintbrush not a offensive weapon, just talking to him like a human being you see that, but that's not what Birk saw...
I really wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of a cop with a perception problem...
My mom was an 911 operator when I was growing up in NY so I knew a bunch of cops, firemen and EMTs. People like scandal so stories of bad cops are more popular than heroic cops - every time you hear a bad story maybe you should balance it out with one from here: The Officer Down Memorial Page
The bad thing about cops, is that cops are just like people of every other profession, everywhere. That is to say, they come in all sorts. Some are smart, some are dumb, some are nice, some are mean, some are humble - and civil, some are assholes with a superiority complex.
There's nothing wrong with being different from other folks. But the problem is that unlike other professions, most everyone who's a cop also has a gun.
And that's just plain dumb.
But I still try to treat cops like I treat other people, and just make my judgement calls per situation.
The bad thing about cops, is that cops are just like people of every other profession, everywhere. That is to say, they come in all sorts. Some are smart, some are dumb, some are nice, some are mean, some are humble - and civil, some are assholes with a superiority complex.
There's nothing wrong with being different from other folks. But the problem is that unlike other professions, most everyone who's a cop also has a gun.
And that's just plain dumb.
actually they aren't like every other profession, (just speaking from the cops I know) you have to take tests, training, background checks and pass a psychological exam to make sure you aren't a trigger happy psycho.
actually they aren't like every other profession, (just speaking from the cops I know) you have to take tests, training, background checks and pass a psychological exam to make sure you aren't a trigger happy psycho.
I had to do the same to work as a high school janitor, on account of being around kids.
I never really understood the general distrust that most people have towards the police. Sure, some of them are complete tools, but like Two Listen said, you find people like that everywhere.
How about when an avid gamer kills someone? Does that condemn us all?
There's something like 800,000+ police officers in America.
See, that's a good number to run off of.
800,000 people, that's a ton of different personalities, priorities, backgrounds, etc. There's no way to come up with a perfect system for selecting and training that many people, and having them stay that way.
The way I see it, you take into consideration the nature of the job, and you've probably got a majority of cops that are good solid people, and a smaller but still perhaps noticeable percentage of cops who for one reason or another just aren't particularly...your all around nice guys. Maybe they weren't always like that, either.
Regardless - I just figure you handle things on a case by case basis, give people courtesy when you can, and you'll probably be alright.
My mom was an 911 operator when I was growing up in NY so I knew a bunch of cops, firemen and EMTs. People like scandal so stories of bad cops are more popular than heroic cops - every time you hear a bad story maybe you should balance it out with one from here: The Officer Down Memorial Page
I don't know, they sign up for it, they know its a risk, they can do other things and they still go for it.
I don't sign up for it, and the good ones don't put my life on the line while they do their job. If I happen to be in the wrong spot and get the wrong cop, the risk I face can vary greatly depending on how they handle it. It's all about how they perceive the situation.
Memorial sites always put a hyper positive spin on whatever it was. "lt john smith was crushed by a piano while writing a parking ticket"
turns into... "lt john smith was heroically attempting to save civilian lives while he worked to secured an unstable crime scene"
If he was a bank teller, it would read... "john smith, died on 6th and pine"
I'm not saying they don't provide a service that require a high level of risk, but a few bad cops actually put the public at more of risk than the majority of good ones. Just like the public can have a perception problem, cops can too, only when I'm wrong about my perception it's not as dire as when they are.
Should we hold them to a higher standard? You better believe it.
Crazy story. Back when i was living in Mexico i had a couple of friends blow up my rents Pizzeria.
And the one time i went to see a friend of mine at his school, talked to him for a bit and then they sent me out of the school with a warning to never come back, so me as stubborn as always i went back, but to not get caught i went to the back of the school, talked to my friend for a good 20 Min and then all of a sudden the cops come up and ask me for my license. I had been going around without one, i had never even gone for my license exam so they took my Bike from me. Got my bike back and again stubborn as all hell i went back but this time i was with my friend i had accompanied him to see his girlfriend, the cops rock up and the one cop jumps out of the car without even stopping the damn vehicle and comes up at me with a shotgun and started yelling "What the fuck you doing here? get the fuck outta here" in Spanish though :P so i said alright and tried calling my friend but the damned cop loaded the shotgun so i figured it was time to get the hell outta there, i later came back for my friend about 4 hours later.
Worst one was throwing a Acid Molotov at a Cops car, damn over weight i got caught in seconds spent the night in jail cold as all hell, lucky had the cell to myself. so those are my stories
Crazy story. Back when i was living in Mexico i had a couple of friends blow up my rents Pizzeria.
And the one time i went to see a friend of mine at his school, talked to him for a bit and then they sent me out of the school with a warning to never come back, so me as stubborn as always i went back, but to not get caught i went to the back of the school, talked to my friend for a good 20 Min and then all of a sudden the cops come up and ask me for my license. I had been going around without one, i had never even gone for my license exam so they took my Bike from me. Got my bike back and again stubborn as all hell i went back but this time i was with my friend i had accompanied him to see his girlfriend, the cops rock up and the one cop jumps out of the car without even stopping the damn vehicle and comes up at me with a shotgun and started yelling "What the fuck you doing here? get the fuck outta here" in Spanish though :P so i said alright and tried calling my friend but the damned cop loaded the shotgun so i figured it was time to get the hell outta there, i later came back for my friend about 4 hours later.
Worst one was throwing a Acid Molotov at a Cops car, damn over weight i got caught in seconds spent the night in jail cold as all hell, lucky had the cell to myself. so those are my stories
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When I arrived there, I took a bus into town on my way to my apartment, by the time I got to the bus stop I was desperate for a cigarette... and then proceeded to ask man if he had a fag. This was late at night as well. Almost got my lights punched out. Guess he thought I was propositioning him or something
It was about 2am I think and literally in the middle of no where - peeing in public is obviously not the greatest thing, but if you have to go, you have to go
Stop or I'll shoot I'm too fat to chase you screw it, less paperwork, bang bang.
Many a foot chase has been spoiled by a carefully placed bucket of chicken.
being in the game industry we've got a really low chance of getting killed at work - makes us a bit soft and judgmental.
I dunno... I hear stories like this and all cops everywhere drop a few notches in my book.
I have gotten 2 bogus speeding tickets since they decided to balance the state budget with traffic fines, but I don't lump traffic cops in with the beat cops.
Beat cops get a little more respect but that's starting to erode away as more and more of them seem to go from zero to twitchy in .02 sec. Those are the ones they need to weed out. Those are not the rock solid career cops we need, they're the ones that either get shot or shoot someone.
I hate to say it but a lot of the cops we have today aren't the right type of people. Those guys joined the military and are off policing other countries and getting their asses blow up. The fill in rookies we have lack the life experience to put things in perspective. It just seems that guys like Birk haven't been through enough to not sweat the little stuff.
We only heard about this because he did such a bad job of covering it up and he shot one of the nicest drunken homeless woodcarvers around. I bought a totem off him on the waterfront, he was odd and stinky but his knife was his paintbrush not a offensive weapon, just talking to him like a human being you see that, but that's not what Birk saw...
I really wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of a cop with a perception problem...
There's nothing wrong with being different from other folks. But the problem is that unlike other professions, most everyone who's a cop also has a gun.
And that's just plain dumb.
But I still try to treat cops like I treat other people, and just make my judgement calls per situation.
actually they aren't like every other profession, (just speaking from the cops I know) you have to take tests, training, background checks and pass a psychological exam to make sure you aren't a trigger happy psycho.
I had to do the same to work as a high school janitor, on account of being around kids.
How about when an avid gamer kills someone? Does that condemn us all?
There's something like 800,000+ police officers in America.
See, that's a good number to run off of.
800,000 people, that's a ton of different personalities, priorities, backgrounds, etc. There's no way to come up with a perfect system for selecting and training that many people, and having them stay that way.
The way I see it, you take into consideration the nature of the job, and you've probably got a majority of cops that are good solid people, and a smaller but still perhaps noticeable percentage of cops who for one reason or another just aren't particularly...your all around nice guys. Maybe they weren't always like that, either.
Regardless - I just figure you handle things on a case by case basis, give people courtesy when you can, and you'll probably be alright.
I don't sign up for it, and the good ones don't put my life on the line while they do their job. If I happen to be in the wrong spot and get the wrong cop, the risk I face can vary greatly depending on how they handle it. It's all about how they perceive the situation.
Memorial sites always put a hyper positive spin on whatever it was.
"lt john smith was crushed by a piano while writing a parking ticket"
turns into...
"lt john smith was heroically attempting to save civilian lives while he worked to secured an unstable crime scene"
If he was a bank teller, it would read...
"john smith, died on 6th and pine"
I'm not saying they don't provide a service that require a high level of risk, but a few bad cops actually put the public at more of risk than the majority of good ones. Just like the public can have a perception problem, cops can too, only when I'm wrong about my perception it's not as dire as when they are.
Should we hold them to a higher standard? You better believe it.
And the one time i went to see a friend of mine at his school, talked to him for a bit and then they sent me out of the school with a warning to never come back, so me as stubborn as always i went back, but to not get caught i went to the back of the school, talked to my friend for a good 20 Min and then all of a sudden the cops come up and ask me for my license. I had been going around without one, i had never even gone for my license exam so they took my Bike from me. Got my bike back and again stubborn as all hell i went back but this time i was with my friend i had accompanied him to see his girlfriend, the cops rock up and the one cop jumps out of the car without even stopping the damn vehicle and comes up at me with a shotgun and started yelling "What the fuck you doing here? get the fuck outta here" in Spanish though :P so i said alright and tried calling my friend but the damned cop loaded the shotgun so i figured it was time to get the hell outta there, i later came back for my friend about 4 hours later.
Worst one was throwing a Acid Molotov at a Cops car, damn over weight i got caught in seconds spent the night in jail cold as all hell, lucky had the cell to myself. so those are my stories
smooth.
You have a bright future ahead of you dude....
Yeah ... WTF?
Yes you are.