Yet Another 40k Dreadnought

Ghostscape

apparently everyone is doing these. I started this a long while back but came back to it this week. High poly is still WIP:



Hopefully making a thread will keep from being lazy and abandoning this once I get distracted by something shiny

I need to take a good long look at the legs and figure out how the fucking hip joint is supposed to work, because as they are modeled in the tabletop they don't.

doeseph

It's Warhammer, so long as it has a chainsword and lots of things to kill heretics with it doesn't have to make sense

The only thing I can see right now is that the feet look a bit too thick, it's one solid mass. If I recall correctly (mostly from the DoW cinematic by Blur and in-game unit) the individual clamps on the feet are on a rotatable hinge so it can adjust to the terrain. With how you have them set up now they don't look to be capable of doing that.

Other than that it looks like you nailed the overall silhouette and proportions Ghostscape, nice job.

robomaniac

looks cool give us more preogress shots ))

p.s. we, necrons, comes l8r and kill all :P

seforin

since this is REALLY early, and since a few dreadnaughts have been showing up...


mind making this a forge world based dreddy? Or a old Verterable dred'

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/SPACE_MARINE_DREADNOUGHTS.html

Ghostscape

I'm not as big a fan of the big head that Ven-dreads have, but the plan for this is to detail it out with a lot of forgeworld/venerable style details.

Something more akin to this Grey Knight dread:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/greyknight.htm

I'm not sure if I want to give it the inquisitorial bits or make it some other chapter yet, but I want to add some stuff that will let me get some zBrush practice in so it will be a bit more ornate than the average dread.

Small update - re-worked the toes to give them extra articulation, added some of the details to the chest.

Ghostscape

little bit more progress, going kinda slow because I keep stumbling upon interesting things on the internet.

Asteric

Looking very slick so far, keep it coming.

Nistrum

im liking the way this ones going.. you picking a chapter or you just gonna make it vanilla marrines?

3DRyan

I like the "toes" and "shins" on it. Very nicely detailed. The upper half looks kinda plain in comparison though. Still looks great though.

Nistrum

there is alot of detail to build into the upper section be patient.. look up a 40k dreadnaught.. youll see how much work hes got to do yet :P

Ghostscape

Bit more of an update:


The torso still needs a lot more detailing but I want to mass out the rest of the shape before I start detailing it out, as I'm not 100% certain what chapter I'm doing, yet. I'm thinking Grey Knights because I dig the extra level of Gothic they get.

Nistrum

well with the way you have the arms there i would say it looks like a furioso :P the reason i think that would be cool is if you look up the blood angels omnibus book cover the guys done a really nice inlaid pattern on the armour in a darker red... here the picture but the quality is pants
http://www.spuler.us/40k/large/the_blood_angels_omnibus.jpg
plus furiosos are just plain cool :P

Maniche

Woah! Looks awesome mate.

Maniche

Ghostscape

haven't updated this in a while, been busy and lazy

Here's a bit more work on it. Going to give it an assault cannon most likely for the other arm. Also going to scrap the regular dread sarcophagus in the front and give it a big Inquistor I like the grey knights dread has, I'm thinking this is going to be a grey knights dread. Oh, I need to give it a thousand skulls, too.

Anyhow, here's some progress:

madmuffin

Whao. Definitely not yet another Dreadnought to me, I've seen a LOT of bad ones and this is coming out to be pretty damn good. Keep up the good work.

I hope to see some high DOF renders at the end that make it look model-sized.

Nistrum

good use of bevels to get that feel for it. very nice

Ghostscape

BUUUUMP.

Been lazy on this, but here's the finished hi-poly at the moment. Looking for any and all crit before I start on the low-poly. Might do some nice looking renders with it since I haven't in forever.



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PredatorGSR

Looks great, glad you're actually going to finish it, unlike a lot of other dreadnought threads.

The arm is kind of disappointing compared to all the detail on the torso, it just looks like a big smoothed pyramid. I would try to define some better big shapes, break it into 2-3 pieces that are joined together, specifically the left arm.

Other than that, the bevels feel a bit sharp.

divi

needs more scrolls!
other than that it looks quite awesome.

woogity

haha yea scrolls and medals!

Ghostscape

I'm going to wind up making a bunch of purity seals for the thing when its done, but my buddy wants to rig this and those will be simmed so I don't want to bake them into the actual mesh in case they need to be moved around.

Probably does need some more icons on the arms and shit though...

Asteric

Yummy. That is all.

Ghostscape

Anyone have any tips on how to get some good renders of something like this? I keep running out of memory in scanline. It's a pretty dense mesh and I wanted to light it pretty. I usually just take screencaps of the viewport (like above) but wanted something more finished-looking, but my current tests kill my machine if I drop a skylight in there.

Hopefully this weekend I'll get some time to add some icons and stuff to it, crazy-busy with work at the moment.

PredatorGSR

I have a good render setup for Maya, but not for max. What's your polycount?

I find that when rendering complicated objects like this, there is no need for everything to be high poly. Like if you have bolts and stuff, you can turn off or put turbosmooth on the lowest level. Most of the times, your control loops will make everything look high poly with smoothing group 1 without having to turn the turbosmooth on.

For example, on this model I only smoothed the round sections for the hp render, everything else is just the low poly with control loops. I smoothed each piece for the bake, but for the render it looks fine.
http://www.konradbeerbaum.com/flakkcannon.php

fearian

there is a fantastic high poly material thread in tech talk but I can't find it.

Someone must have it bookmarked. You guys know the one. shellac materials, best high poly render tutorial ever...

EDIT: found it. http://boards.polycount.net/showthread.php?t=60887

The tutorial is great but it gets improved on throughout the thread. A very good read.

Mechadus

With Vray and [the newer] Mental Ray its possible to convert a mesh into a proxy object which allows the comp to render an insane amount of polys without crashing, but the trade-off is wildly long render times. As im typing this im test rendering a scene that has over 1000 trees that are over 5m polys each. Kinda a ghetto work around, but it does work... around :P

-N

MartinH

+engage geekrant+

Many warhammer dreads are started, precious few are ever completed, finish it and earn the eternal respect of your legion and your emperor!

+end geekrant+

raul

cool!! i wanna see more!

Chclve

Awesomenought! Cant wait for the final

Ghostscape

not dead, just busy



Added a bit more detail to the shoulders, added the missing hex-rings for the ass-cannons, need to figure out if I'm going to sculpt some details for the shinguards or do some texture-based stuff for those, and now that I look at them again I realize I keep forgetting/putting off fixing the smokestacks. I'll be addijng purity seals to it in the low poly later on so those will help the shoulders look more impressive, too.

Low poly in progress, the relatively un-optimized the legs are 7k total which is pretty steep I think my target for this guy is somewhere in the realm of 25k or so. Once I've progressed farther along I need to do some articulation tests and see about fixing up the feet and such because every tri I shave off the toes is 8 saved, etc.