WC_NE_Drood.. WIP
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hey all.. started a new WIP tonight.. had an itch to do something warcrafty.. more progress to come.. the figure is based off of one of the WC figurgines.. and quite a good one it is.. comments and crits welcome.. peace..
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a couple turn around images w/ that
even better
a little update
Nice texturing as well
@ Makecg-- yeah, I was afraid somebody was going to point that out.. my reference model is mostly brown, due to the leather and fur. I wanted to contrast some of that color out of it by throwing in green areas, like on the pieces of wood that are attached to his armor, and a little on his tabard. maybe more shadows would help.. or other colors.. the textures are turned to Flat view in Max.. so there's little calculated shadows going on.. i'll work on painting more contrast in
im assuming your going for more this guy not the normal night elf. if so its looking good but id like to see your texture with more break up with darker browns and desaturated on the gold its not really that bright. in a image i can find, also the horns need to bow more, and ears are to wide.
http://www.dccomics.com/dcunlimited/wow/?dcd=8456
@ Hawken-- bhaha.. yus
The Druid on the other hand turned out great. I think the staff could use a similar treatment as the Druid. Breaking up the colors a bit so it's not so "Brown".
Do you plan on posing him up and adding some effects like the WoW concept art you posted?
@ Deadpixl-- thanks Billers.. yeah.. you are right about the staff.. I actually changed up the nose, eyes and rune paint work (at the hoof) last night to match up w/ the deep blue of the droods clothing.. but as you pointed out.. not really working.. but I had it done up in the brighter saturated blue color as you can see from the older screen shots.. I'll keep playing with the colors then, until something works.. I actually have plans to do some particle work, and export to UDK to see how well it works with low poly scenes.. hopefully it will work out ok
@AW... roooaaaarrr-kin..
No Drood is what they call Druid in wow....that is if you really dont know.
Awsome work!! I have been trying to get myself to this level of art but I havent used Mesh modeling yet...only Quads
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sorry for OT. Back to it!
Think the character texture overall seems a bit dark, you lose your details in it. It also seems a little uncharacteristic to do a normal mapped base when the character itself is not normal mapped.
Yes 2 trias make a quad is how Mesh works. I do Editable poly....This one time I tried to make a statue out of Editable Mesh and completely screwed up when I was trying to round the shape of arms to join hands togather in front (simple concept..."praying")
But I watch Warhammer online podcast and they use the same procedure you used, to create their characters. So I will definately keep on hitting at it until I understand how Mesh Geometry works since it seems essential to RPG style characters.
EDIT: Are you talking about staying away from Quads? Plane modeling comes when you wish to be precise about your model. Like if you are making a high poly model for your animation, not for games.
Anyways, again nice work. I believe you have yet to make the scene (environment with this character). Cant wait to see it.
anyways, any plans on testing this out for a game? Or you are going to finish this thread with Environment display.
Some how I dont side with UDK, even though it is a very well known game engine...I dont know why (its tutorials are impressive too!!)
Anyways, I wish you good luck with this project. I'll look forward to this thread's updates for sure.
EDIT: Also you should look in to Gamebryo. Its what RPG game programmers (including Warhammer Online) used for their games....just a suggestion with no pressure at all.
@ Undeadink-- thanks man.. haha.. I'll tell ya what.. I like WoWs textures a lot more now for Wrath, than I do w/ original WoW and even BC.. The low res textures are pretty muddy compared to some of the crisper textures, such as armor sets, like they have now.. I still really love WoWs art style.. and hopefully this will turn some heads at Blizzard once I send them a resume and portfolio.
Thanks, I'll be posting my stuff when I am completely satisfied with it. For now, any stuff that I'll present will be presented in the thread I made in Techtalk. I am still trying to figure out the races (drawing characters traditionally) for the game project that I have long planned for, to see if I have the ability to do such thing.
Thanks for the discussion though.
lol....
blizzard's texture artists are some of the best in the world. since they use such low poly counts and no normal maps, they HAVE to texture well, and they definitely do.
Actually they are not very good anymore. You can see it by looking at their T9 for mage, lock and (there was another class had the same T9) differentiated by colours. They were also planning on making T9 same for paladin and deathknight, which was a good joke imo.
Also if you are flying over Ice Crown you can tell that it isnt original and it had been ripped off from Lord of the rings (and I mean litrally). (only difference is its blueish) and if you fly over the snow you can see one image had been copied and pasted in tiles over and over.
how does that make you a good artist again?
? for ever one good texture they might have, they have about 50 bad ones, even the main chars have seems all over them.
first like 5 sec i was in the game seems everywhere, on buildings, and mounts, even main chars.
i enjoy WOW, i like Blizzard but i'm not going to give props to a company for these problems when people come down really hard on individuals models posted here.
DKK- i agree with you but i always feel that textures and a good uv layout go hand and hand, because if its all bad uv issues someone would create some horrible textures and be like "oh just uv issues"
"All those things you listed there are minor nit picks the majority of which are on small sections that will be covered up by something else, or never noticed by the player."
all the shots i took were not covered by any means. i didnt sneak into a corner and take a screen. two are off a player char, two are off a mount standing still, with the others being a few buildings.
also Blizzard shouldn't offer a FP view if they want to rely on everything being seen from a far back 3rd person view.
ZavD- thats not the point, the point is alot of people think Blizzard cant make improvements to their work.
this is just my opinion like i said.
I actually enjoy your work Jmiles, still would work on the horns a little but other then that great work.
now let jmiles have his thread and stop discussing WoW topics
btw undeadink I have to disagree with you WoW textures are some of the best i've seen in low poly artwork. lol :poly142:
here are the two maps for the image i linked previously
pretty awesome craftsmanship
Denial to the last breath!....lol:poly142:. you mean to say that people who handcraft texture for the lowpoly model and fail to implement it perfectly, but will present their work anyways, are the best artist? Wow texture is neither crap nor the best in low poly, they are just OK. The only reason you all disagreed is because Blizzard makes awsome cinamatics, and they happen to drill one "used" concept in the game market over and over until market got used to it.
Anyways, lets get back to the topic
@ DDK.. sorry buddy.. no scrupple ;P not yet at least..
@ Ralusek.. yeah man I really admire WoW texture artists to really stuff up the UV space well.. I mean there is all but NO room in there for wasted space.. yeah, there is a bit of stretching that is prominent, but like it was stated before.. it's not usually noticed unless you're really looking for it..
Some of the worst textures i've seen in game are in the major cities.. not so much that they are painted bad, because they hold the WoW style true, but because they scale up the textures so bad to make them modulate or repeat all over the place.. perhaps it's because you don't want to be creating too many textures to make the game run slow, but i mean..really.. if your poly counts in general are low-- for everything, if you can cull out areas of the HUGE world in real time, I think you could at least properly conventionalize your world space size to texture ratio and at least size them to fit right.. pet peeve rant over..
You are pretty much right about that man.. what is actually pretty sad is that blizz takes so much credit for StarCraft.. when Warhammer 40k was WAAAAAAAAY before them.. WH40k lore is way deeper, the game play is deeper (par for being a table top, but the DoW games are still very kickass).. and the artwork is 1000x better.. imo of course... really dont know if i'm going to pick up SC2-- cause i'd rather lose my soul to the 40k MMO that is in the works ;P.. or in the mean time.. Diablo 3
Starcraft was one of my favorite games when it came out. I will get both.
I played WoW when it first came out but quit cause It got all easy-mode
I'll wait for you to texture this out before giving this anything, following your statement that there is much to be done here.
EDIT: If you are improving the wow models than this is a good piece so far. If you are just following the reference...there are marely steps leading in to the moonwell....well its kinda random model for every moon well, some have leading path (not sure if everyone of them does)
So you have to extend the walls a bit more. Also lights are random and the ones that you are following the ref from are very simple than yours.
Just a suggustion, only if you are following the ref and not improvizing.
EDIT2: Which moonwell ref are you following?