SR-2m Veresk

Arac

My first post here on polycount. I've been checking these forums reguraly for a while tho.

I'm making this next-gen weapon for a school project. I picked the SR-2m Veresk because of its rather strange shape, and because I've never seen it used in any games or mods.

It looks like it's a pretty obscure weapon, because finding good reference images for this particular model was quite hard. So for some small parts I had to make educated guesses, but for the most part, it's pretty accurate.

Anyways, the High Poly SubD model is almost done. Still have to add a couple of screws and other small details. Next up is the low-poly and then baking.

Here are a couple of fast scanline renders:





C&C is always welcome

MoP

Looks like a good model to me, nice clear renders too.

Racer445

Seems accurate to the real deal. You may want to consider adding the holes into the front bit, even if just floating detail. That might help break up the big blocky area that is the foregrip.

Continue though. I want to see it textured.

vj_box

Any wire shots?

Arac

Racer445 wrote: »

You may want to consider adding the holes into the front bit, even if just floating detail. That might help break up the big blocky area that is the foregrip.

I was planning to add those holes to the normal map in photoshop later on. I guess it won't make any difference for the final result?

Here's the SubD:

sneakymcfox

hopefully if the hole is baked in it should look a little smoother and more accurate, also there is a little bit it where i think there is a little to much curvature. I'm not very experienced so i may be wrong.

dv8ix

it dosnt look like it be comfortable on the shoulder etc

cloakingturtle

Yeah thats true, but it does look like the owner could just shove someting in there. Like a piece of clothing or whatever.. padding. Overall very nice, can't wait to see the final result:P

Arac

Low-Poly and unwrap are done!

Normal maps still need a couple of fixes here and there and I need to add some extra details in PS, but that will be for tomorrow.

A couple of viewport grabs using Xoliul's shader:

Matroskin

looks great, nice Normal detail.

cool gun design as well, i love smgs

onionhead_o

very clean bake. great success

brandoom

looks sweet. what a cool gun. lol.

Sean VanGorder

That normal map came out great. Especially on the fore grip.

Nice job man.

EarthQuake

This looks great, the low+bakes viewport shot looks much better than your high res renders, simply because you've got some spec on there and see that all of the geometry and forms are solid. I would look into adding a bit more spec/reflectivity/direct lighting to your highres renders

Arac

Thx everyone for the replies.

I've started texturing the clip, scope and reciever. I'm going for a very used / wornout look as it gives the gun more charachter imo.

As texturing isn't my strongest point, any feedback would be highly appreciated!

Arac

Almost done, quick marmoset render.

Anyone know if there's a a way to get gloss maps working in marmoset?

Quack!

Missed this.

I am not feeling some of the scratches on this. I think the ones around the edges, where the gun may hit a surface are nice, but the ones in the middle of surfaces seem to evenly distributed.

Other than that looks great!

jett12

YIKES! Looks like the sandpaper bandit has attacked your weapon!

Modeling is great, here is some advice kp gave me on metal and scratches, hope it helps!

http://boards.polycount.net/showpost.php?p=1014418&postcount=11

Arac

Alright, I worked on reducing the scratches, dents and noise. Here's the final result.

First 3 are with Xoliuls shader in max, the others with marmoset:

kysterama

Xoliuls shader looks a lot better than marmoset, i think maybe its the bloom in marmoset that washes it out for me. The model and texture look great Arac, i would not have guessed that this process is new to you.

Shiraz

I think there is too much edge wear on the paint where the shoulder rest connects with the body, i cant see it hitting the ground at such an angle to create such wear.

disanski

Woow man this is looking pretty good. I like Xoliuls render better as well. Would love to see your specular map.

Gallows

Looks absolutely great! The texture looks like it needs a little something else, but so far great. Also that tiny sweat mark. Absolutely sick.

roosterMAP

The textures are excellent. However, I feel that the handle needs more... Like a mark or sticker, or something other than just brown plastic. Maybe give it a new material?

Godemper0r

Excellent work. For the rubber/composite material of the grips, it might be good to sort of desaturate and lighten it just a bit on the edges, so it looks a little worn. composite does wear just like any other material. I think it turned out excellent though. Care to post the maps/uvs?

ES_139

very nice model and bake, any tips that youd like to share about your workflow? id love an incite into your baking process.

PieJesu

Very well done model.

The grips I don't agree with however. Maybe use wooden furniture instead?

Asteric

I like the texture, but i think that the scratches may be a bit noisy, but im not sure if that is the spec or bloom or whatever, would it be possible to see a flat diffuse shot?

Arac

Thx everyone for the feedback.

I tried a lot of different things to get the same level of wear and tear on the plastic parts as the rest of the gun. I desaturated the top parts a little, as if they had lost their color over time due to the sunshine. I also added some dark residue (grease or whatever) between the grooves of the plastic at places that seemed logical. I think I just need to tweak the specular map a little more to get a more conviencing result.

@ES_139: my baking process it pretty straight forward. Just explode or detach overlapping parts, push the projection cage untill most parts are inside of it and make some adjustments per vertex if necessary. I think the most important part of a good bake is the low poly model itself, smoothing groups and corresponding uv maps. Also if you're using max, make sure to turn on supersampling when baking your normal maps, this makes a huge difference in quality.

@PieJesu: As you can see in the picture, older models of this gun had wooden grips, but this peticular model only comes with plastic. I wanted it to be accurate, so using wood wasn't really an option.

Xoliul

A few things I see on those pictures you posted can help sell the "plastic" more:

-Most important: wear off the surface "texture" (tactile texture, as in the noise in your normalmap) on spots that will see more wear, like corners. Also change the diffuse color, the spec (stronger) and the gloss (sharper). You can tell on this picture, even though it's blurry: http://russian-weapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/sr-2-1.jpg
-little discolored spots and marks, like paint, grease, whatever that doesn't come off anymore. You can see one on the bottom picture behind the trigger.
-Put some large scale, but subtle variations in spec and diffuse, I think it's all rather flat atm.

Also the front grip in most pictures seems like it's made from metal with this brownish, burned tint to it. Is there a version with the same plastic as well ?

dolemite

I think the brown parts in the pic you posted are wood? The plastic one is the black?

I think making it black would help sell the plastic look more. Though, i would kind of prefer to see it done in wood.

vcool

Which book are those scans from?

It talks about the different shoulder rests they were going through, it's pretty interesting.

Arac

Asteric: Here's the texture sheet at half the size:



Xoliul: Ok, I'll try that. thx for the help.

dolemite: For the color of the plastic I based myself on this picture, which is the most recent I could find:

vCool: You can find all the scans on this forum half way down the page: http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/18/308129.html