Sculpting Lips

shardy

Hi all - Any tips for Sculpting Lips (i'm using mudbox but i'm sure this is a pretty generic question) Struggling to avoid the 'fish lips' look which obviously isn't great!

Would love to hear some processes/steps if anyone would be generous enough to share!

Thanks

divi

im not sure what you mean by fish lips, but there are most likely people out there that have those aswell. what gender you want tips for might be good aswell.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgj3Tmo0h4U[/ame]
female lips
http://www.youtube.com/user/rkingslien
videos from ryan kingslien - should give you some insight. there's also a mouth one in there.

Ged

haha I know what you mean by fish lips basically fish lips happen when you make lips on top of a flat face surface and dont bother sculpting all the surrounding muscle shapes

Hazardous

Im not sure if these will help you or not man, but i made a couple of vids last year sometime of a childs head, and another of a females head both about 1-2 hr sculpts.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJM3oerKK_w&feature=related[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyEle-IU_-Y[/ame]

Man these suck bad now lol but hey there you go, hope theres something useful in there for you now man. God damn look where i left the shape of her skull!!

Japhir

http://eat3d.com/free_mudbox_head

good tutorial

shardy

Thanks all! Will take a look at whats here. much love

Vrav

I think one of the most obvious contributors to fish/botox/duck lips is making the upper lip come out harshly from the skin above it. The upper edge or outline of the upper lip is just a drop inward; the skin above flows smoothly to meet it, wherever the fullness of the lip determines it to be.

This usually occurs mistakenly in sculpting because of the desire to sculpt the mental symbol of a separate "lip," when, for example, if you're just sculpting a closed mouth, perhaps it would be more artistically accurate (judging on how an object actually looks, rather than the via symbols carried in one's mind) to cut in the division between the lips. Sculpting is an interesting study; it can teach you a lot about form, if you do it observationally.

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pior

Mask off, move tool, drag out, done!

shardy

Vrav wrote: »

I think one of the most obvious contributors to fish/botox/duck lips is making the upper lip come out harshly from the skin above it. The upper edge or outline of the upper lip is just a drop inward; the skin above flows smoothly to meet it, wherever the fullness of the lip determines it to be.

This usually occurs mistakenly in sculpting because of the desire to sculpt the mental symbol of a separate "lip," when, for example, if you're just sculpting a closed mouth, perhaps it would be more artistically accurate (judging on how an object actually looks, rather than the via symbols carried in one's mind) to cut in the division between the lips. Sculpting is an interesting study; it can teach you a lot about form, if you do it observationally.

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Yeah I think that has been my problem in the past, 'draw' out the shape of the lips rather than actually working with the volume that is there

CheeseOnToast

Yup, it's the change in colour of the lips from the surrounding flesh that often makes people mistakenly give them a harsh, defining edge all the way round. That and the left-brained "symbol" for lips that Vrav mentioned.

karthikasingh

I faced the same situation,but i contacted my nearest Cosmetic surgeon in Chennai and got rid of the problem.If you want more info about it read this Lip sculpting blog.