Thompson SMG

Arkanon

Hey,

I'am currently working on a Thompson SMG (Everyone is doing it!) just to get better at the normal map baking workflow. I'am about to start the low poly and thought i would chuck my High poly up for some feedback first . Here are some screen grabs from the viewport.

Dr Stench

It looks a bit 'squary' for a subdiv model? can you show the wireframe?

n88tr

Is it just me or does the barrel lean downwards slightly?

Also how do you make the texture look "wet" like that??

Dr Stench

n88tr wrote: »

Is it just me or does the barrel lean downwards slightly?

Also how do you make the texture look "wet" like that??

No the barrel on a Thompson is slightly thinner at the end. It looks kinda weird but this is correct. I modeled a Thompson once.

dolemite

Is the trigger guard a little too fat?

PieJesu

Something looks a little off. Try a clay render and show the wireframe (low poly and subd) so we can get a better view of it.

3Drobbo

hmmm i sorta agree that its abit squary... however the thompson does have a few hard edges on it. see below:



What i reckon is the materials your using arnt doing the piece justice. Have a play around to get a metallic feel.

Also, yes, some wires, so we can see how dence the mesh is around the corners

http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload/gallery/M1A1-1024.jpg

I think the best thing would be to go over all the reference you have and really crit the edge you have made, looks like some are great and some just look to sharp, i think maybe some creative licence to get the right looks will be needed. when i get home from work i can have a better look over it for you if you would like. Oh i think the handle might need some hard edges to make it look less blobby. other than that great work, if this is all quaded up, will be easy to get a low poly mesh from it Good luck!


EDIT:
see attached


One dark grey material (slight blue) with spec up and gloss up half way

one orange ish omni at the front, a blueish one at the back done:)

kysterama

Looks really cool Arkanon. I reckon with a little bit of tweaking and some nice materials this model will really shine. Keep up the good work!

lol @ 3dRobbo. Lego thompson FTW!

Arkanon

Thanks for the feedback and comments.
n88tr the "wet" look is just some raytrace mats with high spec so i can see the curves easier. I rendered these using the mats in this tut http://www.artemstudios.com/08Portfolio/Tutorial/MaterialRenderingTut.htm refered to me by Kysterama, cheers buddy.
3DrobboLOL lego gun. Cheers for the advice about the lights, i setup these renders using those colors but not as strong.

To give you guys a better look here are some more images, a clay and wireframes. Also there is a pic of one the references i was using. Let me know what ya think, this is my first full sub-d model other than playing around with a couple of other things.













http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Arkanon85/m1a1closeupleft.jpg

kysterama

Very nice update. Glad to see that barrel straightened out at the end
Pretty impressive for you first sub-d model. Looking forward to textures!

n88tr

I can never get my sub-ds to work, yours look very good. Model accuracy looks on target too!

PieJesu

That looks alot better.

I think you should stay away from those block colours, they seem to make it look weird.

3Drobbo

Looking good man! love the clay render!

well here is a pic with some things drawn on it, i look at the ref u posted as my guide.



See what you can do about some of those hard edges, it will be difficult, but well worth the trouble

Looks sick!

Arkanon

Thanks guys.

I fixed the artifact on the back of the handle last night. I will go over those edges as soon as i get home from work, make em a bit more like the reference i posted. There are so many pics, with different parts don't know which one to use.

Arkanon

I have finished off the high poly and made most of the low but I want to bake and tweak before i post the low up. Here are some screens of the high though. Hope you like let me know what you think

Arkanon

Hey, after letting this sit there for a while, i came back to it and worked it up. crits and comments please

Jaiza

This has ended up very nicely!

Normal map is looking nice and crisp, only crit would be that the rust you have painted in looks more like smudged dirt than surface rust.

Well done

Colditz

Besides the fact that it looks very nice at all, I dont understand the texture. Your model is the M1 A1 and all weapons of the WWII era have a parkerized finish, which means it looks more like a non-reflective, medium-gray finish. I think you should optimize that. You can see some pictures of the M1 A1 in my data sheet at WHQ here and some information about Parkerizing here.

The deepening at the foregrip can use more depth, too! It looks to weak.

The cartridges in the magazine are missing the primer!

Cap Hotkill

I would Darken the Metals. the rest looks good to me.

Arkanon

Hey, thanks for the comments, i appreciate the help. I added the primer to the bullets (can't beleive i missed that :P) and darkened the metal. I also deepened the grip a little and reduced the reflectivity. I adjusted the rust too.