40k Space marine

Nistrum

yeh thats right kids.. another space marine.

this is a bit of an art test for GW so id appreciate as much feedback as you can give me.
the basic rundown on steve here is hes gonna be a high poly still shot. atm im just nailing down the scale and style before i add too much detail. as im sure you can see the normal map on his chest is a bit squiffy. does anyone have any comments.. anything too big, too small wrong shape that you can see?



thanks

andersh

I'm not seeing any errors...could be easier to tell if the proportions are working once you get the whole thing blocked in.

j4polaris

He's looking pretty good so far Nistrum. The only funky thing I see so far (other than that chest normal map) is his breathing apparatus on the helmet. The two tubes that come in from the sides don't appear to go anywhere.

I would focus a lot on getting the basic forms laid out before you start filling in too many details. One of the biggest things about the Space Marines are their iconic proportions.

I found this image below that could help you.

Nistrum

yeh sorry i should have mentioned the breathing tubes lol. i HAD modelled them in, after i did maya crashed so i flatly refused to do them until i had calmed down about the crash :P ill be building in the midriff/groin area tomorrow so ill post again when thats done

Alec3d

looks great and what polaris said, before you start doing details you'll need the basic proportions because if you get them wrong you basically ****ed it as it matters in this case.

Nistrum

his legs are a pain to do. but i think its more or less right. the pain with marines is that they were origionally made in the early days of GW so they are basically simple shapes with fine detail carved in later. the fact that spacemarines are incapable of closing their legs is pretty funny. how do you think hes looking? any glaring errors you can see?

Monochrome

SSSSSSSPPPPEEEEEEEESSSSHHHHHHHH

Nistrum

anyone want to add anything useful?

Forgottenhero

Hi there, I'm really liking the model. I would say that some of the things that makes a space marine more realistic or convincing are battle trophies, purity seals, and battle damage on the armor. Battle damage can be done with textures of course, and trophies can include anything from a fallen enemy, certain decorations on the shoulderpads, or even chains hanging from their belts. Keep up the nice work!

torontoanimator

i used to play space marines great job so far!

Omar_Nabiev

I remember a GREAT game "Space Hulk", it was such a good times....
I wish you good luck with this one man.

Nistrum

done the bolter, just the arms and the pack to go before i can start adding in the details.. onve thats done i can finally start on the texturing proper.. the colours here are just so i can add a bit of character and see where i want to take this guy

killingpeople

how are you going about creating your uvs? i'd love to see them to get an idea of how you're texturing as you model.

Nistrum

i have tryed alot of approaches to UVmapping.... with varying degrees of success in the past. but i cant really takethe lack of control i get with most. i do an auto unwrap.. where its ok ill leave it and where its out ill uv manually with my own projections.. the just sew it up.. its time consuming, but i hate the errors you get with things like the sprung unwarpping scrips luckily while hes very curvy the sapes hes made from are relatively simple. the only real pain was his chest, there is a seam in there but its well hidden (under the arm) im undecided as yet but i could put the edge of his armour in there to hide it totally.

Sirdelita

would you mind posting your wireframes?

Nistrum

your wish is my command. this is steve sans smoothing.

seforin

keep at it , its starting to come together in some places, other places obviously need more work


also make a angry marine

Nistrum

hahaha funky stuff. yeh i wanted to make sure i got the shapes solid before i get carried away... too easy to get detailing from the getgo then find when your 2/3 of the way through that the shapes wrong and be kicking yourself over it.

he needs things like panneling details, there are a LOAD of indents and stuff i havent added yet. switches buttons etc. then theres thing slike purity seals personal trphies that kinda stuff... but im close to having finnished the bulking out now. the arms will be the biggest pain.

Alec3d

Are you going to be optimizing that gun because there a huge amount of unnecessary polies on that.

almighty_gir

Alec3d wrote: »

Are you going to be optimizing that gun because there a huge amount of unnecessary polies on that.

it's a high poly cage.

Alec3d

Shouldn't it be a little more even because it really looks stretched?

Nistrum

whats stretched? the gun? when your working with high poly stuff you have to add geometry to control the smoothing/beveling of edges.

Alec3d

The leg polies, shouldn't you have a more even distribution so subdivision works better?

almighty_gir

Alec3d wrote: »

The leg polies, shouldn't you have a more even distribution so subdivision works better?

depends on the surface, as he adds some of the vents and stuff i'm sure he'll need more divisions, but as it stands, they look fine in the render.

Nistrum

gir is right. as i up the details i wil be addidng more geometry.if you start out with a really complex mesh.. itll be very hard to conrol smoothing errors that would happen later on due to badly placed edges. and take me longer to fix errors