Neotokyo
polycounter lvl 10
Epic looking hl2 mod that was just released, thats loosley based on the universe from ghost in the shell.
Only heard good things so far so fingers crossed it will be awesome.
http://www.neotokyohq.com/
Only heard good things so far so fingers crossed it will be awesome.
http://www.neotokyohq.com/
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The game definatly rewards going slower and watching your back. Plenty of servers up, even some auzzie ones which is awesome.
I think it just cheapens total conversions like this by calling it a mod.
So your saying that things like cave story arent indie games, and all the guys who run things like tig source and the igf are wrong?
Independant games, and independently published games are two very different things.
Cave Story is on WiiWare (now or soon). I wouldn't say that being commercial is indie, but its certainly nice for them to make money when they can. Neotokyo looks awesome. Just downloaded that and Curse Episode 1, will have to give them a go soon.
if a game were based off another game, i'd call it a clone, or some variety of the word, depending on what it's copying.
if a game is a modification of the engine, it's called a mod. and i think that's all that should be associated with what a mod is. there is a broad spectrum of quality in the genre.
to me, an indie game describes a product that has commercial independence from a major publisher.
an indie, i'd define more as a hobbyist developer as well as a developer that works at an indie studio.
FAIL
:P
On the positive side all the weapons I tried out were quite nice and I really love the penetrating power of some of those guns. I got several kills through thin metal objects etc. And the hitboxes seem to be where the models are, a thing that quite many Source based games/mods get wrong(I haven't seen this problem in Ep2 based stuff, but Ep1 engine and before occasionally have this bullets going through problem).
This is one of those mods were a bit of teamwork can feel very rewarding. I don't know if it's the slowness of movement or the clunky aiming, but flanking maneuvers actually work in this mod.
Definitely worth checking out.
shit ... uh .. yeah that doesn't really work... ya, that's not right ...
okay *straightens tie* try this again ... a mod is, the modification of game attributes outside of the game or engine's original boundaries to create a new game experience from the original one.
mirror's edge, wins the title ... licensed product, because they paid for it. how's that? ;p
I have to say i've been having alot of fun on this. Great job guys! (now get on steamworks!)
game looks cool!
If I were to suggest anything to the modders for near-future additions it would be for more information being sent to the player ala TF2: The first time I play a game mode or a map, I'd like to know a bit about it. Right now I'm relied on finding this information on the website. Sure, this is how its been for a LONG time in games but now that I've seen how other games are doing this, I'd love for this to be all in-game.
Sidenote: I think ALL games need an encyclopedia for that game WITHIN the game (following me so far?) so that I *never* have to leave the game to find something out, regardless of what it is). RedFaction + Worms2: Armageddon are two new titles that come to mind that do this.
"Having to do with the response of the body as opposed to the intellect, as in the distinction between feeling and thinking"
but the overuse in game pitches is like chinese water torture.
At what point does a mod become a game in its own right?
I mean how many people could classify counterstrike a mod these days?
The whole discussion of indie vs mod vs what is a little bit useless isn't it?
Of course, because to most of us the differences are blindingly obvious
Ok smarty pants that thinks that he is better than everyone, what is so obvious about it? You didnt rebutt any of my points with logical answers, with one of your comebacks being simply "I could give a fuck about non-commercial independent games", go hang around tig source and check out how many of those games are "commercialy viable" not many are because they lack the polish. its the same with mods, 99% are pretty worthless and its only a small amount of games that reach the mass market, (like world of goo and braid).
Back on topic: this mod stole my weekend from me
I dont know, i think it would be pretty lame if everyone had very accurate guns that would kill you in 1-2 shots. That sort of thing sucks in a game where you have to wait 5 minutes to respawn every time you die. I mean honestly, its just a matter of who has a better ping/reflexes at that point.
Also, i think the visuals are pretty sub-par. Decent for a mod i guess, but really no better than something like counterstrike source, which is what 4 or 5 years old now?
I wanna replace some of the gun models now =D
and i dont want to have anything to do with it
Actually they're considerably worse than CS: Source; both levels and player models leave the world as a dark low contrast mess.
Still, pretty much godly for a TC.
in fact its got some really neat touches all round.
Eitherway, theres some room for improvement but its fun enough! Its a nice change from the dummed down FPS that TF2 feels like.
Gameplay's slow and not that fun, graphics are pretty weak and hard to decern detail even in locations that are supposed to be well lit.
Shit really? I was following that really long FAQ thing...sorry. Will try it tonight then haha. :poly136:
Oh and I didn't even mention the player faces....
I like your opinion Jack, I'm kinda in the same boat. I get teamkilled too much and I shoot my teammates unintentionally too.
Look I like the mod, I just don't think alot of people will keep playing it. I also start to notice the flaws, floating props, some bad lighting, and maps of different quality.
But come on we can't really complain, it's free, these guys have put alot of work in it, with some more work on it, it can go from great to fantastic. And how many times is there a hype around a mod anyways.
Also, gonna buy the OST, 11$ is worth it.