Massive black downloads.

Muzzoid

Hey guys.

I was just wondering how many of you had seen the massive black tutorial downloads. I know most of you guys are 3d but I'm sure there are some interested people round here . They are pretty darn cheap for what they are, and i would highly recommend them.
Not all of you guys visit conceptart.org, and so im not sure how many of you know they are doing this .

http://dvd.massiveblack.com/downloads.html

Zhang lu and jason manley
jason chan

Also try and resist the urge to pirate them , they really are worth the money you pay for them.



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NyneDown

Yea man...I'm totally getting these to help me out with my concepting skills. Just saw the tutorials not too long ago and they looked invaluable.

renderhjs

not really visiting CA.org but I was aware of them before. I almost bought their new art book recently but it was still to expensive for a student like me.

here is another commercial from google
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keizza

i have actually d/l like............5 of these at least. i think the jason chan ones are pretty good. some are kind of, how do i say.......not too informative? where it's just like watching someone draw/paint? which i guess can be informative for some?

but the one where chan does the speed painting is rad ie: the illustration of the tentacle monster about to eat the girl. there are a couple of "tricks" in there that are worth 15 bucks. also, for sorry....but "newbie" concept peeps, the concept exploration by chan is good. he goes over how to concept four different styles for a client. and that can be pretty valualbe.

Sage

I have bought several of their tutorials. They are worth the money so far.

System

Whits and Jason chans are fairly decent, although theyre only really reitterating information that sits around on their forums. I actually prefer some of the Gnomon videos as they seem more professional and generally more indepth.

If youre that into watching people paint theres plenty of places that have free videos that are just as informative. I think that most of the reason to buy dvds as opposed to just looking at stepbystep images/videos is what they have to say and most of the time artists arent that fun to listen to heh. With the exception of Iain McCaig, whos a star.


http://idrawgirls.blogspot.com/

http://crayonboxofdoom.blogspot.com/

http://www.djahalland.com/en/goodies/

^ Contain free tutorial videos.

hobodactyl

Jackwhat, thanks for the links, those are great!

System

Heh, just postin shit ive probably picked up from here or there.

3more -

http://www.youtube.com/user/jenspaintvid

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrJackArt

http://www.youtube.com/user/samsonsreaper

PixelMasher

coro's weapon design one is dope and his commentary is halarious. really laid back and chill but some cool tips as well. whits ones on env sketching are cool too.

Muzzoid

Jack, yeah i agree some of them arent the best vids in the world but id say that they are all pretty worth the money you pay for them .

Even if thier production values arent quite as high as those of gnomons you certainly get more bang for your buck with these.
Though I dont know why either should be considered better than the other though, both are a resource and both provide information. You would probably get a more rounded education information stream if you watched from both sources. .

And i question the worth of simply watching sketching vids... ive watched many of them but you don't actually know what the artist was doing most of the time. Its like trying to learn how to drive by watching from the sidelines of a racetrack. yeah you can see where they are driving and where they go slow and fast but you dont know all the important stuff going on inside the cockpit.

Also remember that the people that make these vids no matter thier source really do deserve any payment they get, and i would rather people actually offered alot of this stuff for a small fee as opposed to giving it out for free as it is undermining the liveley hood of other artists as well as giving those artists a bit more of an income for thier efforts. Not to say that i think all information should be pay for view, just some of it.

Sage

I don't know, for 30 bucks, you usually get a nice tip or two that other more expensive videos don't give. I guess it also depends on what you buy them for and what you expect to get. I wanted to learn more about perspective and the perspective series, filled in the blanks that I was missing. I also learned more than I did when I took a 300 dollar drawing course I took when I was getting my fine arts degree. So far all of the ones I have bought have been fairly motivating which is more than I can say from most of my former professors. There is nothing more annoying that asking a professor for feedback and he or she tells you she doesn't know, but the decision is up to you. That alone is worth the money.

renderhjs

but often there are already very good resources available for free on the net - though yes often you have to read but its worth the effort and just as good as a DVD.
This may not so apply that well to painting (since its more of a free and artistic expression) but I often have the feeling that with tutorial DVD's like max, zBrush, flash, photoshop,... its often just stuff repeated and slightly different interpreted from the free internet. The only reason than imo. why people buy those DVD's is because they got fooled or they need a pricey reason to learn.
Same applies often to books especially if they are more a bit technical and less artistic - the real important and tricky stuff is often only online available on some blog or hidden sub section of a website.

Slum

With the exception of Iain McCaig, whos a star.

+1

His Visual Storytelling dvds are freaking awesome. Everyone should get them

erik!

For portraits this book rocks my sock
[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Artists-Complete-Guide-Drawing-Head/dp/0823003590/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243332075&sr=1-1] The Artist's Complete Guide to Drawing the Head[/ame] by William L. Maughan

Kawe

Jackwhat: these looks like some interesting links