What monitor to get?
polycounter lvl 15
Evening folks, after selling my machine and relocating, it's time to get a new one now that I have settled in. What I need some help with is what monitor to get. Not a big deal but figured I'd check if anyone has something to recommend. My previous monitor was a 22" wide with 1680x1050 res.
If anyone know of a good wide 22" and up screen with dope colour and contrast/brightness for around £300 I'm all ears
Cheers
If anyone know of a good wide 22" and up screen with dope colour and contrast/brightness for around £300 I'm all ears
Cheers
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http://www.pcbuyit.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=331
( [ame]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-SM226BW-Widescreen-LCD-Monitor/dp/B000MRVBF4/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1239928611&sr=8-3[/ame] )
-Sorry for the amazon link, couldn't bother to search for a legit uk shop-
which is pretty awesome. For the money you can spend though, why don't you try for a 24 or 26 inch one? Or you can wait to get one of those 120hz samsungs that will be able to display in true 3d or whatever (with the glasses and everything).
yup this is good, got one and haven been complaining
IPS = best color accuracy and viewing angle
-N
It was a guilty pleasure buying that (still paying for it as far as I recall..)
Im not sure i know what TN and VA stand for, but yeah, im probably going to try and get a 24" if i can for £300 but id rather have better colour representation than larger realestate
Dell in hell!!
Really? IPS you say? Interesting.
For anyone who is wondering:
TN = Fastest response, cheap, poor viewing angle, usually meant for consumer use/gaming
M/PVA = Slower response, decent color, great viewing angles, used in a lot of tvs/mid-level graphics monitors
IPS = Slowest response, best color, great viewing angles, usually your high-end graphics monitors, the $2000 NEC's and the like have IPS panels. Usually pretty hard to find an IPS panel under $1000.
http://www.displayblog.com/2009/01/28/lg-display-lpl-23-e-ips-1080p-lcd-monitor-panel/
206BW isn't much better. That and since the stand doesn't tilt or raise up, my eyes are about 3-4" above the top bezel and I have to look down at them, so theres some color distortion. Bleh. Plus I bought two of them. The backlight on one of them has a yellow cast to it, and the other blue. Arghhh!
None of the monitors I work on have the same colors or range. My IBM laptop has no color distortion no matter what angle you're looking at it from...but the colors aren't vibrant. The Samsungs at home are overly bright and washed out because of it (plus the backlight). The Dell at work, its dark greys have a slight brown tint. Its on an analog cable though. :poly127:
Just got a Samsung T240 and on having it one day I've already decided to return it - the fact it has no tilt and is actually tilted down slightly due to the build? is just terrible for the colours. Even when I lower my chair as far as it can go the bottom of the screen still seems overbright.
Problem is, I now dont want to go lower than 24" or 1080p so I think i've narrowed my choices to -
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149662
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149979
So if anyone has any experience with either of those i'd love to know which one to opt for, or just a recommendation in that bracket would be nice!
First off, it's a good price for a 24" monitor. I got mine for around the £220-240 mark. They can get ridiculously expensive. The image quality is good for a TN, its not going to be up there with an IPS panel though. I did have a M/PVA panel for about a week before I got the benq and I have to say the viewing angle was the only difference I could see. I'm not a colour crazy perfectionist though lol.
It's got a small footprint. I've seen some 22" monitors my friends have that take up more space on their desk.
HDMI and VGA are nice to have too; I've had a 360 and PS3 plugged into it and they both looked stunning. They were also displayed in the correct aspect ratio, although with the benq you've linked to that wouldn't matter since it's already 16:9.
What I don't like is no height adjustable stand, tilt only. Also it has a really annoying benq splash screen every time you turn it on. It's only for a couple of seconds but every time you turn it on! That's actually all I don't like about it lol, I tried to think of more but couldn't.
Now all I want is one of these 7" usb monitors for my Photoshop and 3ds Max palettes and I'd be good to go lol 7" usb monitor
It goes on sale every once in awhile from Dell, so if you time it right, you can find a really good deal.
Oops, old thread.
I've been reading a TON of reviews, people say that the Samsung 2232BW is a REALLY good value monitor but now that ive tasted 1920 1200 and 24" I dont really want to buy something that I will want to replace.
Im not looking at the 16:9 BenQ anymore, instead im looking at the v2400 which seems to be just as good and tbh, after using this Samsung without tilt, I think a tilt function alone will be ample to solve some of my viewing angle issues.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/144039
- Now, depending on ebuyer refunding my t240 or not will be what decides whether or not I end up getting that. Hopefully they do, because no tilt on this monster just doesnt cut it for painting.
Never had problems with Acer but have with some other cheaper makes like LG, Samsung. Seriously consider a monitor that's capable of a high refresh rate to protect your vision and one that has a reliable pixel history.
The samsung and Acer monitors above are both shity TN panels(poor color, view angles, etc) and not really suited for artwork.
Really pretty much any 24" monitor in the $200-400 range is going to be utter crap.
- EQ, as much as id like to get the dell 2408.... its just so bloody expensive, also as entity says ive heard of it having problems with ghosting and whatnot in games. And like i've said, I doubt any monitor can be as bad as the T240, a TN panel without a tilt is just silly.
Really if you cant afford the 24" dell i would look at a 20" inch dell(or other IPS/VA panel monitor) you should be able to get one of those in the $300 range?
As far as TN panels go, some people really dont care, it drives me nuts, so best thing to do is find one in the store if you're thinking about buying a TN. You're in luck tho, because all best buy and stores like that carry are TN panels.
I came the moment I turned on the monitor. EQ's right, this thing is pure awesome
400 bones? Ouch. Wish I could afford a second monitor right now. Would certainly be nice.
http://www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=3302&p=1
http://www.pureoverclock.com/article641.html
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/panelsearch.htm
Those should help some too.
No Joke, only two weeks ago, my monitor went AWOL, so had to call up their service department. In five minutes they UPS a new monitor to my home address. I had Called on a Monday, received it on a Thursday.
It was fucking brilliant.
Just throwing it out there.
If the viewing angle isn't 178x178 or the refresh rate is faster than 6ms it's a TN.
EDIT: nevermind, read the first page posts again
I've had trouble finding ANY non-TN panel monitors, regardless of brand in stores. That said, if you can afford it you wont be disapointed with a quality dell ultrasharp screen.
You can find 20" m/pva panels for sure, dell makes them. If the viewing angle is less than 176x176 its TN, they list at about 160x160 or 170x170 but are all closer to 45x45 than what they're listed at. =D
For doing art i find viewing angles very important, with a TN panel even slight movement of your head can result in drastic changes in color, brightness and contrast. Every TN i've used seems to have a constant gradient from top to bottom, no matter what angle you view it at, which can be troublesome for texturing, esp if you're working with anything dark/low contrast. When we talk viewing angles on TN panels we're not talking about looking at it from a 60 degree angle, we're talking about moving your head 1 inch to the side, or slouching just a bit and moving your head 1 inch low, i find even simple changes in posture produce a very noticable difference. People must think i'm nuts, but whenever i see a monitor in a store i bob up and down to check how terrible the view angles are, and since it seems stores only cary cheap-o TN panels i'm always disgusted with the results.
I think for most people a TN is fine, but i really notice it if its something i spend all day doing art on.
For anyone looking for a good 20", you can probably find the dell 2007wfp on the internet for a reasonable price. It seems the 2008wfp is actually a crap TN panel, so stay away. A good thing to do whenever considering a monitor is to google "model + tn" and you should get a bunch of posts telling you weather or not its a TN.
or just keep this site open in a tab,
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/panelsearch.htm
EQ, your not the only one who does the "owl exam" to monitor at stores. I do that all the time, until my wife sees me doing it and pulls me along. The TV's we have at work for testing on are literally THE worst for this problem. Your head needs to be literally dead center in front of it to even get basic color and contrast.