and i know it makes me a sick fuck... but seriously, if you want your readers to take something seriously, maybe your artical should be written in a more serious way?
Yeah, I saw this on the news yesterday or before it was.
I feel for the guy in some respect. Only due to the idea that his "ex-wife" screwed him and took a good sum and left him with bad ends of what was in his eyes a happy marriage.
But shame for such measures taken to deal with self-anger.
I'm not laughing...but that first paragraph has no tact. It's the media's responsibility to report events. Not to insensitively describe them in horrific detail.
I feel for the guy in some respect. Only due to the idea that his "ex-wife" screwed him and took a good sum and left him with bad ends of what was in his eyes a happy marriage.
I was reading a bit more about the circumstances of his divorce, actually. Apparently the beginning of the end was when his ex-wife discovered that he had hidden the fact that he was the father of a child who was brain-damaged due to a near-drowning accident. After leaving the child and his mother to fend for themselves, he continued to claim this child as a dependent on his taxes while never paying a dime in child support. So ... you still fell bad for the guy that his ex-wife "screwed" him? Kinda seems like you get what you give to me.
I think being 'shot in the face' is only funny for video game players, I doubt your average human will find anything funny about that writing ?
Especially the 8yr old girl that answered the door, and was shot in the face, I'm sure she finds it hilarious, gamer or not I know I'd laugh my ass off if it happened to me... in fact I'm going to go find a Santa and have him shoot me in the face, that just sounds like an awesome way to spend the holidays.
I was reading a bit more about the circumstances of his divorce, actually. Apparently the beginning of the end was when his ex-wife discovered that he had hidden the fact that he was the father of a child who was brain-damaged due to a near-drowning accident. After leaving the child and his mother to fend for themselves, he continued to claim this child as a dependent on his taxes while never paying a dime in child support. So ... you still fell bad for the guy that his ex-wife "screwed" him? Kinda seems like you get what you give to me.
Ah, I didn't see that part.
Now that i'm looking at it, yeah he was a pretty screwed up individual...not that he was getting screwed to begin with.
First paragraph should give all essential information in the story -- this is essential facts and tone. Then all of the unnecessary details come next.
I'd say mission accomplished, it's not a funny or irrelevant detail. This is a really bizarre thing to critique, it's both not badly written and not really cool to make a joke out of. Either grow up or learn enough about journalism to make quality insensitive critiques.
I'd say mission accomplished, it's not a funny or irrelevant detail. This is a really bizarre thing to critique, it's both not badly written and not really cool to make a joke out of. Either grow up or learn enough about journalism to make quality insensitive critiques.
The bloodbath began when an 8-year-old girl attending a Christmas Eve party answered a knock at the door. A man dressed as Santa and carrying what appeared to a present pulled out a handgun and shot her in the face, then began shooting indiscriminately as partygoers tried to flee
Looks like typical bad tabloid writing to me. A proper hard news article would not, for instance, use the term "bloodbath" and "what appeared to be a present" (phrased in that fashion) and "indiscimenantly" are speculation. There are also more facts that should have been covered in the introductory paragraph.
There's a definite style that is supposed to be used when writing this sort of article, but unfortunately, more and more newspapers are going for this kind of sensationalised angle to attract more readers. Ultimately as long as the news is getting across then it doesn't matter how the news is written as long as the message get's across, though it does make it harder to skim news articles. The problem is that its a small part of dumbing down the newspaper that no doubt includes filling half the pages with crap 'human (dis)interest' stories and pointless celebrity drivel.
Maybe I'm just a pretentious toff, but I lament the passing of the old, quality newspaper.
I didn't see it as funny, but I get what gir was suggesting. The 'news' article was writing as if they were writing a fictional book... trying to set the scene. It really should have just stuck to facts.
Really is sad that someone who is upset, has to destroy other people's lives. Especially 8 year old children.
ok i think some people don't get what i wrote... i AM appauled by what happened. but i feel that what happened is overshadowed by the fact that a major news department can't write for shit, and feel the need to give factual information in a way that seems fictional (to me).
sometimes we 'lol' at things like this because they are so horrific that we don't understand how to react to them.
I once saw a faces of death movie, and I found myself with a weird smile on my face because seeing that stuff for the first time rendered me unable to analyze how it felt to be seeing that stuff.
AlmightyGir, I don't think you need to defend yourself for 'lol'ing at this article. Our cultures (American culture anyway) doesn't often really do a proper job of teaching us how to understand and deal with death, massive tragedy, etc. Your post did not offend me.
However, making a post like this is total flame bait for polycount's innumerable trolls. I like to link this thread when people get offended by forum posts.
Yeah the reporting on this left a little to be be desired, to much Jerry Springer if you ask me. If you don't know what I mean I guess I'm showing my age. I didn't think it was really necessary to show all the clips of the victims on the news, they even showed a view of the girl with her hand on her face where she was shot.
Looks like typical bad tabloid writing to me. A proper hard news article would not, for instance, use the term "bloodbath" and "what appeared to be a present" (phrased in that fashion) and "indiscimenantly" are speculation. There are also more facts that should have been covered in the introductory paragraph.
There's a definite style that is supposed to be used when writing this sort of article, but unfortunately, more and more newspapers are going for this kind of sensationalised angle to attract more readers. Ultimately as long as the news is getting across then it doesn't matter how the news is written as long as the message get's across, though it does make it harder to skim news articles. The problem is that its a small part of dumbing down the newspaper that no doubt includes filling half the pages with crap 'human (dis)interest' stories and pointless celebrity drivel.
Maybe I'm just a pretentious toff, but I lament the passing of the old, quality newspaper.
I feel the same way about it. Also, the need to work a pun into every headline, no matter the content of the article. It also annoys me when papers feel they have to shift the tone of the newspaper more towards the positive, at the detriment of proper coverage of major news-events.
I wish there was a non-partisan organisation that rated papers worldwide by how non-partisan they are, and by how many unsourced articles they publish yearly. If they'd have a website where you could look at the quality of newspapers in an easy-to-understand system, not only would it be a good tool for me, if it was high-profile enough, it would also discourage newspapers from only appealing to the lowest common denominator. In using the term lowest common denominator I'm managing to sound quite pretentious myself, but papers aren't meant to be pleasant fiction, by their very nature they're unpleasant. I don't mind if there's a 'and finally'-section (with amusing news worldwide), but it has to be a section, rather than having a 'serious news'-section in a paper full of shit.
sometimes we 'lol' at things like this because they are so horrific that we don't understand how to react to them.
I once saw a faces of death movie, and I found myself with a weird smile on my face because seeing that stuff for the first time rendered me unable to analyze how it felt to be seeing that stuff.
AlmightyGir, I don't think you need to defend yourself for 'lol'ing at this article. Our cultures (American culture anyway) doesn't often really do a proper job of teaching us how to understand and deal with death, massive tragedy, etc. Your post did not offend me.
However, making a post like this is total flame bait for polycount's innumerable trolls. I like to link this thread when people get offended by forum posts.
if you're offended by what people say on forums, you probably shouldn't be looking at forums.
p.s. - that opening line also made me snicker for a moment, and then I felt guilty a moment later, when I realized it was a true story.
I do agree on this upon many levels, especially from that link you posted [Thank you btw ].
The USA pretty much sums up things for the weakminded clearly to reach at them from their weakest areas in standing strong. Yet, it's very immature that what our news reports today are... I cannot say other than the fact that they have been ever more so depressing since the late 90's until now with news that's about making the world feel down than up.
AlmightyGir, I don't think you need to defend yourself for 'lol'ing at this article. Our cultures (American culture anyway) doesn't often really do a proper job of teaching us how to understand and deal with death, massive tragedy, etc. Your post did not offend me.
Dude, the article isn't funny because of its content, it's funny because it is so badly written.
The only tragedy being loled at is the quality of that paper.
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why would somewhere like nbc write "he shot her in the face"? surely it would be "he shot her at point blank range".
i dunno... it's just not right =/
ugh...
I feel for the guy in some respect. Only due to the idea that his "ex-wife" screwed him and took a good sum and left him with bad ends of what was in his eyes a happy marriage.
But shame for such measures taken to deal with self-anger.
I was reading a bit more about the circumstances of his divorce, actually. Apparently the beginning of the end was when his ex-wife discovered that he had hidden the fact that he was the father of a child who was brain-damaged due to a near-drowning accident. After leaving the child and his mother to fend for themselves, he continued to claim this child as a dependent on his taxes while never paying a dime in child support. So ... you still fell bad for the guy that his ex-wife "screwed" him? Kinda seems like you get what you give to me.
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That was vile. Even if the kids were on the naughty list..
Ah, I didn't see that part.
Now that i'm looking at it, yeah he was a pretty screwed up individual...not that he was getting screwed to begin with.
I'd say mission accomplished, it's not a funny or irrelevant detail. This is a really bizarre thing to critique, it's both not badly written and not really cool to make a joke out of. Either grow up or learn enough about journalism to make quality insensitive critiques.
There's a definite style that is supposed to be used when writing this sort of article, but unfortunately, more and more newspapers are going for this kind of sensationalised angle to attract more readers. Ultimately as long as the news is getting across then it doesn't matter how the news is written as long as the message get's across, though it does make it harder to skim news articles. The problem is that its a small part of dumbing down the newspaper that no doubt includes filling half the pages with crap 'human (dis)interest' stories and pointless celebrity drivel.
Maybe I'm just a pretentious toff, but I lament the passing of the old, quality newspaper.
Really is sad that someone who is upset, has to destroy other people's lives. Especially 8 year old children.
Glad the guy took his own life so we as tax payers don't have to foot the bill for this guys trial, prison life and all that other jazz.
I once saw a faces of death movie, and I found myself with a weird smile on my face because seeing that stuff for the first time rendered me unable to analyze how it felt to be seeing that stuff.
AlmightyGir, I don't think you need to defend yourself for 'lol'ing at this article. Our cultures (American culture anyway) doesn't often really do a proper job of teaching us how to understand and deal with death, massive tragedy, etc. Your post did not offend me.
However, making a post like this is total flame bait for polycount's innumerable trolls. I like to link this thread when people get offended by forum posts.
http://www.richardwarrenfield.com/essay034.htm
if you're offended by what people say on forums, you probably shouldn't be looking at forums.
p.s. - that opening line also made me snicker for a moment, and then I felt guilty a moment later, when I realized it was a true story.
I feel the same way about it. Also, the need to work a pun into every headline, no matter the content of the article. It also annoys me when papers feel they have to shift the tone of the newspaper more towards the positive, at the detriment of proper coverage of major news-events.
I wish there was a non-partisan organisation that rated papers worldwide by how non-partisan they are, and by how many unsourced articles they publish yearly. If they'd have a website where you could look at the quality of newspapers in an easy-to-understand system, not only would it be a good tool for me, if it was high-profile enough, it would also discourage newspapers from only appealing to the lowest common denominator. In using the term lowest common denominator I'm managing to sound quite pretentious myself, but papers aren't meant to be pleasant fiction, by their very nature they're unpleasant. I don't mind if there's a 'and finally'-section (with amusing news worldwide), but it has to be a section, rather than having a 'serious news'-section in a paper full of shit.
But yeah, it's a pretty fucked up way to spend your x-mas eve, shooting folks point blank.
I do agree on this upon many levels, especially from that link you posted [Thank you btw ].
The USA pretty much sums up things for the weakminded clearly to reach at them from their weakest areas in standing strong. Yet, it's very immature that what our news reports today are... I cannot say other than the fact that they have been ever more so depressing since the late 90's until now with news that's about making the world feel down than up.
The only tragedy being loled at is the quality of that paper.