Generic_ScifiGun01

PixelGoat

Hey hey!
This is the gun I'm currently working on, mainly looking for critique on the texture.
It´s still a WIP so feel free to come with ideas. I haven't even started on some areas yet, as you can probably tell (the barrels for example). No dirt and grime in the contact areas yet either.

atm the Diffuse is plugged into the specular channel aswell so if the specular looks weird, thats why




Heres the flat texture.

Kawe

holy crap. you're not allowed to used "generic" anymore.

my crits from a quick glance are:
- burning speculars! so much white stuff
- the barrels seem rather unimpressive compared to everything else. everything else seems really worn except for the barrels. not sure how barrels get worn but I assume they don't look all shiny new at least.

otherwise I think it looks good.. I'm not a gun maniac though and they usually have a lot of things to say about guns

praetus

I think this looks pretty sweet. Good job on getting grime in there. My biggest complaint though is in the first person perspective I can't read what type of gun this is. Is it a rifle, a plasma gun, a chain gun? I think maybe the rotating barrel needs to be seen more so people know what this thing is. Although after doing a quick google search I see you're making this off the crymod concept, right?

http://www.crymod.com/uploads/mediapool/chain_gun_for_web_2.jpg

In that case it actually looks pretty spot on. Finish up thios textures, especially the barrel.

PixelGoat

It is the official gun for the concept, yes

Target_Renegade

nice gun, it looks cool. When its in game can you look through the scope/viewfinder?

Paul Pepera

I like the design and model of the gun, but I do not like the texturing. It's too grungy, too messy. I think you went overboard with the scratches and dings. Try to strategically place the weathering and scratches, put them in places where they would be most likely to occur, like on the corners and extreme protrusions of the weapon that would receive the most punishment.

I honestly like the skin of the gun in the concept more; it's cleaner and easier to read and I think it would compliment the 3D model better.

timwiese

I like this gun a lot, very cool style on the shape. I agree with what has been said about the texture being a bit too grungy and messy. I think keeping it mostly to the areas that would see the most wear and tear would be the best so it isn't soo noisy. besides that I really like the wear and tear on the back part of the grip were the paint is worn off I think that is a cool touch.

PixelGoat

Texturing is still moving along.

Heres an ingame shot from GoW just for fun

Snefer

Mm...dirty looking spiffy!

Armanguy

looks really good ingame!

imb3nt

i second that. great work.

Zephir62

Great work, but the gun is almost impossible to read in those in-game shots. Needs more contrast.

Ged

Zephir62 wrote: »

Great work, but the gun is almost impossible to read in those in-game shots. Needs more contrast.

do you mean contrast or saturation? I would say theres already alot of light and shadow and dirt information but its not easily visible because of the desaturated dark colours, that said it does fit into the gears universe quite well

PixelGoat

Yeah the lighting in those shots are shit for showing of the gun :P Just threw it onto an existing gears level to keep myself motivated, feels good seeing stuff in an actual game
That being said, Ive noticed it depends VERY much on your screen, it looks fine and you can read most details on my screen here at home. while on some other its almost pitch black >.<

EarthQuake

perna wrote: »

Hi pixelgoat. Show us the hipoly? It looks like the modeling is solid here, but the texture really kills it, drowning the end result in noise. You've put all the highlighting levels in the diffuse rather than the specular map where it belongs. It's like you covered the whole thing in difference clouds and random texture overlays. The texture itself is well done in that it's sharp and clear, it just doesn't work well on the model.

This man speaks the truth, it seems to suffer from a bad case of "it looks cool in photoshop" but an utter mess on the model.

PixelGoat

Here´s a near finished version of the highpoly. to lazy to bring up the scene and render the absolute final version.


and heres a straight viewport grab of the latest texture, no specular at all. I can see what you mean in some areas. But its not that bad? or am I blind? Not trying to be stubborn. just want to improve

Electro

Looks pretty good, definitely coming along nicely good job.

My main gripe with it is that you can't tell it's a minigun sort of thing as the barrels aren't visible AT ALL from the 1st person view where it'll be seen most of the time I imagine?

That's most likely not your fault if you've modeled it true to the concept. It is a shame though.

odium

I think the main problem with this texture is that you have no contrasting colours in a sense that its all one large "blob" of the same tone. You could make it much more visually appealing by making the lighter, and my adding some finer colour details such as darker and lighter metals, lights of different colour and decals. You can tell thats what you were going for, but the final ingame result is far to "samey" in terms of overall texture colour.

Increase the gamme on the whole piece slightly, increase the saturation, and tweak the intensity levels in some areas more than others and I bet it will visually "pop" more than it does now.

penrod

A good thing to keep in mind when creating realistic textures is to have about 80-90% low frequency details, and 10-20% high frequency details. If you look at games like Half-Life, they did a great job of this. Your high poly model is ace! You're probably sick of this model by now, but I think it would be worth it to give the texture a little more love.

PixelGoat

Is this more along the lines of what you mean, Perna? There is still some leftover specular information in there that im working on removing.




Also, I'm thinking of going with a different colour, figured I'd let you vote on what you like :P

Snefer

Number five

rooster

liking your update a lot more! i was having trouble making out all the cool shapes before. shame to model them and then lose them eh

timwiese

Love the update, I am glad you went thru and removed some of the noise I think it makes the shape of the gun much more readable. I like #'s 1,3,5. I think any of those would be a good choice for the final color.

pixelpusher

#3 or #5

And it might be good to add more of that red you have at the bottom on some of the other areas.

I did a little paintover:




Keep on this one, its definitely got the oomph look it needs geo wise.

Rumkugel

2 questions:

A) wheres does it feed the ammo/ magazine??

how exactly do you hold it?

PixelGoat

The ammo is a separate mesh with a separate texture, will come later.

PixelGoat

Slowly progressing on this.

NeoShroomish

I can see a few smoothing errors here and there, I'm guessing because you're using the viewport shader instead of rendering...

JasonLavoie

Yo pixel goat, I strongly suggest you follow some of pixalpusher's suggestions, some of those paint markings really bring the piece to life, adds more character.

Looks great though man, but I say you can still push it with those painted markings.

fattkid

Looks better...I think the initial issue was that it was just too busy, kind of difficult to get a good read on it, due to homogenous color scheme/texture/grunge. Your later revisions look a bit more appealing to me.....You can see more of the shapes/form/design. Maybe think of the "composition" of the texture/model...as in, how the viewers eye will travel along the model as they take it in. So having some key areas of detail/design/emphasis, as well as areas that are not as detailed, more subordinated detail/color etc. That's my 2 bits...looks really good.

PixelGoat

Getting closer to wrapping this up... just a few more areas that need some love, then I will go ahead and clean up any mesh-smoothing errors.

Kawe

I think I liked the versions without spec better cause it burns my eyes a lot less. The round thing by the base of the barrels is reaallly white.. and so are many other things. I guess "next-gen" from a few years ago looked like that but I certainly hope it doesn't anymore. Personally I hate it... well.. that's my opinion Take it as you want.

PixelGoat

Here are some renders that are not utter shit that maybe does it a bit more justice (Thanks to Snefer and god bless Lightwave)

IronHawk

thats looking a lot better.

Paul Pepera

The gun is looking 10x better now then in the original post, good work.

PixelGoat

Playing around some more in UnrealEd :O

This time with added clip!

EarthQuake

yeah great job man, everything is a lot more readable now.

Cheapjuevos

Looking good man. Love the update!

-cheapjuevos

Kawe

Thumbs up!

PixelGoat

Decided to make a more interesting render of this for my portfolio.

Joao Sapiro

fucking awesome ! congrats !

Tumerboy

ooooooooooo. . . purdy!

rooster

great work!

Mark Dygert

Sooo sexy....

killingpeople

if that's generic, i think it's my new favorite genre

_Gr9yFox_

oooh i like it

indian_boy

dude, the only thing generic in that shot is the checkered floor texture...
seriously:

AWESOME

a lot of style and character in that gun there

EbolaV

i dont find words... realy cool. where can i buy this weapon xD thumbs up man. its a way much better than the first version ^^

PixelGoat

Here are some straight up normal side renders to go along with it.

Glad you guys like it