EA's Spore Protection
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and they say that PC gaming is dying because of piracy, when legitimate customers have to put up with this. Just give me a serial number for my purchase and let me play!
and they say that PC gaming is dying because of piracy, when legitimate customers have to put up with this. Just give me a serial number for my purchase and let me play!
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I suspect secuROM is a secret plot to trying to herd people right into the waiting arms of the consoles, even if they might not be the best platform for some games.
I can't tell you the times that SecuROM caused nightmares for Atari and legal customers, when I was working there. The best thing I can suggest is don't ever expect a lite-on drive to work with secuROM, in fact just about every burner has its issues so try an old slow CDROM drive that does nothing but read CD's. If your game comes on DVD's, you're pretty much screwed.
its stuff like that that makes me sometimes wonder if its not more benefitial to me to just download the cracked copies. It certainly would eliminate some of the crap such as limited installs : /
Steam has done digital distribution nicely. you pay once, access from any computer and no time limit on how long a peice of software is available to download.
Never-The-Less the Elite's of the cracking scene will over come they are much more determined. I don't support either I suggest an alternative means that benefits both sides, I hope SCII (if blizzard goes this route) doesn't get infected with this new "SecuROM" might have to buy a totally new PC just to install games on and deny internet access to (more shit to worry about).
Good Job guys.
I'll probably just do what I do with music these days... pirate the shit from the major labels and only buy legit from the smaller "independent" publishers. I wish game developers had some equivalent to concerts.
Fuck EA. Never buying another one of their games.
you know, if you dont count all that, success, and what have you
And yea that copy protection is complete bullshit. PC gamers actually know how to use a PC. We arent in the "buy a dell, throw it away when you get a virus, then buy a new dell" category.
but yeah give me my serial number, let me play my game without hassle and I'll probably buy more PC games...
If you want to play a game, put as example a console like ps3, you only need to buy the machine and the game... you will play games at 1080p and without need to waste your money compared to a pc. In contrast, with pcs, you waste more than 1500 euros and you haven't got enough power to play decently, you cannot play actual games at 1080p unless if you waste and waste more money. Pc games market is not a good one for companies, pcs are not a good system to play due to its expensiveness.
Another fact is that if you waste too much €€€€ in a computer for games, you will end with a huge eater of watts, a true "sun" machine, an ultra heater. Your bill for energy consumption will hurt a lot. I have recently readed about the new nvidia graphics cards, and i'm plenty dissappointed with all. 200+ W and more than 80ºC with a single 280. Pathetic.
With Ps3 you can have a keyboard and a mouse i think, and play fps aswell.
Piracy in consoles is high too, too many ppl i know own 2 xbox 360, one for pirated games and other for multiplayer games with xbox live. If they buy games... hmm yes, only a few per year. They play all what they can download with their "internet chit-chat computers".
BTW i dislike a lot Spore.
Whats wrong with just buying the serial and software is like "whatever"?
Or maybe registering an id with EA? Then that id holds all the games you've paid for?
maybe too advanced for EA
I'm sold...
Another thing that is messed up: http://kotaku.com/5017743/spore-cc-sporadically-available-via-ea-store
Thats why they buy something out of the can. It costs very little, and they do loose a few metric TONS of cash to piracy. On paper it looks like the smart thing to do and it actually is, if you do it right. But secuROM is not the answer.
I have a few secuROM coffee mugs and t-shirts they gave us to help smooth things over and encourage us to keep using it. It worked on the upper management but never worked on the techs. All of them with gritted teeth supported it. A few where even fired for sending out "patches" to people who had incompatible machines. "Oh you have a bla bla bla drive, and the game isn't installing or installed but crashes at a security check? Interesting well lets go through 3hrs of BS and run around shall we?"
There are MUCH smarter ways to handle it. Its the laziest, cheapest way they can handle things. And until they actually see a large portion of their profits impacted by people not buying because of it, they'll continue to use it. The problem is word isn't getting back to the in a language they understand, people just say "screw this" and pirate it. Hopefully at some point they will be able to decipher the cryptic message gamers are sending...
The problem is, that people take the path of least resistance, including gamers. They seem to think that putting more friction in the way, will get more people, when it drives them right into the arms of the pirates.
Some of these deals and strings attached makes me wanna vomit.
When EA says "lose", what they mean is: We're not growing as fast as we want. We're still making unholy amounts of money but we want to make unholy+1 so we're sad and we're going to whine about it.
This "lost" money is completely theoretical. It's "potential" money from the magical land of marketing. EA could sell one game to every person on this planet and still be losing money because they aren't selling two. And if they were selling two, they would say it's a loss that they didn't sell three.
If you failed to sell your game then you failed somewhere else along the line, not during the installation procedure. Maybe it's too expensive for people, maybe it's not compelling enough, or maybe nobody wants to support your company because if people actually like who you are and what you do then they will gladly pay.
Classic!
Serial code the games let that be the end of it your fighting a loosing battle, unless everything turns into a w.o.w. style game where you have to pay to play, then a lot of "gamers" aren't going to purchase anything else from anyone anytime soon who tries that route.
Nice post Lee3dee.
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\/ looks like there getting my money.
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