Apple. No means no...
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Dear Apple,
Please put your plans for global domination on hold. While you're at it, stop trying to trick me into downloading your web browser. I've told your updater no 3-4 times. No means no.
Thanks,
Vig
(Its been a while since I've done this...)
Apple lacky: No one is using Safari.
Jobs: Then we need to bundle it with itunes.
Apple lacky: But we already bundle itunes with Quicktime?
Jobs: Look, I don't make the rules around here I just follow them.
Apple Lacky: ok sir... so how do we proceed with the bundling?
Jobs: First we release it with a quicktime update. Then we release it with an itunes update, followed by a quicktunes update, then another bogus itunes update. Then finally we just force delete Mozilla off users computers and replace it with Safari.
Apple lacky: We don't make quicktunes and I think, that's illegal.
Jobs: (leans over to his trash bin and listens) Whats that Hank? Ok if you say so...
30min later the Apple Lacky wakes up behind the counter at a Starbucks wearing an apron and is greeted by a long line of antsy customers. The note pinned to his chest reads "There's no i in Apple, but there's a U in Starbucks".
Seriously it's really getting annoying.
Please put your plans for global domination on hold. While you're at it, stop trying to trick me into downloading your web browser. I've told your updater no 3-4 times. No means no.
Thanks,
Vig
(Its been a while since I've done this...)
Apple lacky: No one is using Safari.
Jobs: Then we need to bundle it with itunes.
Apple lacky: But we already bundle itunes with Quicktime?
Jobs: Look, I don't make the rules around here I just follow them.
Apple Lacky: ok sir... so how do we proceed with the bundling?
Jobs: First we release it with a quicktime update. Then we release it with an itunes update, followed by a quicktunes update, then another bogus itunes update. Then finally we just force delete Mozilla off users computers and replace it with Safari.
Apple lacky: We don't make quicktunes and I think, that's illegal.
Jobs: (leans over to his trash bin and listens) Whats that Hank? Ok if you say so...
30min later the Apple Lacky wakes up behind the counter at a Starbucks wearing an apron and is greeted by a long line of antsy customers. The note pinned to his chest reads "There's no i in Apple, but there's a U in Starbucks".
Seriously it's really getting annoying.
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I can't get quicktime without itunes unless I follow a few different links, sacrifice a goat, run to the top of Everest and then pray for 5 days while fasting...
an unfortunate last-resort situation yesterday caused me to have to get hold of Quicktime Pro. Not an experience i want to relive, their website is almost immediately eye-gougingly annoying.
It's easy to get quicktime without itunes however it tries to install it on every update.
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/ just check the box that doesn't have itunes and disable autoupdate.
It just seems like Apple is the creepy guy at the club watching you all night and when you aren't paying attention he is sneaking into your house while you sleep and laying down in your bed, only in Apples case it is sneaking through your internets into your machines.
Btw, Safari does seem to be pretty nice, but I don't know ANOTHER browser on top of the 3 I already have.
See that is what I was thinking. They are forcing you to install software that you don't want and you denied. You leave auto update on like most people do and then you have safari installed. What the hell...
I don't want updates at home, it's working fine there. I turned them off, and removed anything vaguely Quicktime-related off my startup and processes.
Annoyingly enough, I really like the Quicktime format and playback method, it's great for model turnarounds, and generally feels really smooth.
This is however only due to it working on a open-source rendering core (khtml renamed webkit) originally developed for linux.
They basicly ripped it out (more or less like they did with their entire new OSX, from OpenBSD) and only after quite a bit of negative publicity and pressure finally agreed to at least give back the changes and improvments they made.
But it's good to hear that some people are finally waking up and realize that Apple is no alternative to Microsoft in terms of "being evil" and abusiveness of it's users!
the only reason i found for me myself to require the actual quicktime would be for video capture from my camera and there it's more of a convenience issue.
and i'm sure you guys didn't fall for the DRM trap and are now itunes/ipod addicts?
i try to avoid the qt-itunes-safari trio even on mac osx, however there it get's a little hard to find a decent alternative mp3 player. and yeah, apple software is comparably annoying and sneaky and home-phoning and developed by a corporate evil as the stuff coming out of redmond.
I'll try the ignore updates thing that MoP suggested the next time it happens, I'm sure it will be soon. Thanks guys!
I like you Apple, but I'm not bothered about Safari even on my Mac. If I wanted it on my PC, I'd install it.
So we can reset your "ignore Safari" preferences and try and trick you into downloading Safari again...
haha...you know it's like your womans period. A total pain in the ass and it comes once a month.
no comment from apple, but even apple users are a little mystified: http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/18/apple-modifies-software-update-for-windows/
looks like someone got a bit over zealous with the installer.
Besides, it has to be free because no one would buy it