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Good idea BK.

I am working on a steampunkish character right now, here is the rough high poly:
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Quite a ways to go yet, costume has just been dropped in, and I think the unbooted foot will be a prosthesis.

Here is what she'll be piloting:

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Very rough of the high poly again. Concept art by my friend Matt Ellis, who's going to help out with the texturing and use the model in a matte he has planned.

This was what I was doodling around with before that:
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Here is the high poly final, which is a bit bleh, but I did learn a lot in trying it (mainly that underwater is not a challenge my hair and lighting skills are up too laugh.gif).

The last 2D sketch (other then my massively failing and yet to be posted DomWar stuff) is taken from a Giovanni Nakpil sculpt for a figure drawing workshop at CGTalk.:

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  • StJoris
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    I totally dig that ship!
  • Blackheart
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    nice, totally digging that underwater model, all the female aspects are very detailed, and its stylized pretty cool, also the way your sketch is rendered, amazing stuff, im still learning how to do that, my rendering sucks lol

    great work.
  • kary
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    StJoris Thanks smile.gif It has been really fun working on that -- Matt can do sketches much quicker then I can, and brings has some remarkable ideas. When we were looking at thumbnails I was able to ask if this ship could have a ribbed sail, and then he came back with back with the grand circular sail design that fits pretty perfectly.

    Quick spin around here: http://www.karyblack.com/wip/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/zepplinspin1.mov
    We're redesigning the engines and central cabin now, but otherwise I've pretty much got the primary layer of modeling down and we're shifting to detail.

    BlackheartThanks! The pencil sketching more or less came together for me when doing one piece awhile ago:

    zoey.jpg

    I really took my time with that one and it came together fairly well. I did a lot of thumb measuring, light sketching, erasing etc. Having to do a lot of dark hair forced me to patience.

    I wish it'd translate to the tablet, really I've just been doing sketchy stuff with that:

    devilgirl.jpg

    It is slowly getting better, but I've got a lot of raw drawing to learn as well as getting comfortable with the medium. Easy to get caught up in trying to redo one line to get it perfect, kills the flow.

    Going to archive my DomWar base here, I'll be posting other figure sculpts as I do them, so I might as well start with this one:

    dom-war3-night2point5.jpg

    I'll post how he winds up with the armour later, to get the end and beginning together. (I just pushed the hips slightly further forward then they are in that grab).
  • kary
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    kary polycounter lvl 18
    To many straps and armor plates lately, so I took a Domwar break and did this:
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    this afternoon. Hell of a time with the face. It was at an interesting angle in the original picture, but interesting quickly turned painful. I looked at the WPE timelapse from opencanvas and it looks like i had the right placement in the layout sketch, but I lost it when I tried to fill it in.

    Opencanvas is really fun to paint in. The timelapses are really interesting -- albeit in a trainwreck way for me smile.gif).
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    On the bad news side I had a hardware problem, on the good I didn't lose too much and now am on a computer that plays games at a nice res. UT3 has quite a different look at 1920 x 1200 than a mildly choppy 800x600.

    I lost some of the high poly for this, but got it to a somewhat interesting point. I learnt an amazing amount doing this and I feel a lot more comfortable about going into the next piece now. Having done it once I realize there is so much that could be done in the design phase that to make it simpler.

    VatesRenderedAndUE3.jpg

    Not as fluent at mapping as I'd like, but:
    VatesMaps.jpg

    Wires, 9000 triangles:

    VatesWires.jpg

    Next piece will be a lot easier to get a normal map out from and have the compromises in more intelligent places. Doing some environmental stuff should be fun -- getting things into UE3 is pretty easy and, while it looks like a ton of work, you can get a snazzy look... and there is a ton of documentation which is handy for me.

    ---

    Been doing a few hand studies from the ref for a CGTalk workshop:

    group_to_7.jpg

    Creating hands is challenging, I'll have to do a few hundred studies on those before I get my feet under me.

    I find it hard to find a comfortable brush in PS. It's been getting better, but I think I'll wind up having to customize something. I'm kind of amused that Opencanvas (elderly and shareware as it is) has a better brush feel and painting UI for me.

    If nothing else breaks on me I expect to have more stuff next week :)
  • conte
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    conte polycounter lvl 18
    nice work, Kary!
    keep posting!
  • kary
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    Conte: Thank you :poly002:

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    I was looking for a mental vacation, and I’ve been trying to get more comfortable doodling in PS, so I thought it’d be interesting to try something I do in my sketchbooks (take random shapes and make something from them). Then capture the key steps, timelapse them, and then compare it to the same process in a few months, repeat.
    sketch_may2-timelapse.gif

    Full size:

    may2sketch-150x150.jpg

    Going through a heavy retro animation phase now, interesting to see some of it influencing what I draw from imagination. Can’t help laughing at this stuff as I look at it — I guess thats a good thing, if you can laugh at your stuff you’re not taking it to seriously, which has got to be the right stance for this content :poly102:
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    Clean up of the last one:

    VatesRenderedAndUE3.jpg

    Poses are still a bit borked, but the presentation is a little sharper. Yes I find the camera angle in the UE3 capture rather silly :).

    Sketches:

    may-19sketches.jpg

    Sketches from yesterday. Mediocore, but the faster ones (all but the upper right) are starting to communicate better. At the volume of a whimper, but better then my classic white noise :D.
  • Ged
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    Ged interpolator
    your dominance war character came out pretty well in the end, would be cool to see the UE3 screenshot bigger. I think you might be using a bit too much black in the shadows on your sketches and paintings and you also overlay shadows onto other shadows which makes it harder to read the form
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    Thanks Ged, it wound up being what I hoped (a good learning experience), if not the quality I wanted.

    I should have linked to the larger version: http://www.karyblack.com/wip/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/vatesfullres.jpg it's just a Unreal Ed grab, and not huge, but a bit bigger. I'm just getting my feet under me with UE now, and putting together a proper (not white box!) environment. Surprised how interesting it is to use that program, hopefully it stays interesting when I try to do something complicated.

    Thanks for the point on the sketches, I'll keep an eye out for that. Now that you've mentioned it I can see that problem. Sometimes I've avoided it (ie: quick sketch that stays light: http://www.karyblack.com/wip/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/jansp-08-01_002.jpg ), but I've developed a tendency to fuglify things lately. I wind up pretty disgusted by the end of most doodles, so I do tend to blur and darken to lower the fidelity of the stuff that bugged me I guess.

    Appreciate the input.
  • kary
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    sketchfortyler.jpg

    Another quick dog drawing. It was interesting to see how flash photography increases the degree of difficulty (fur really begs for light direction). Also the affect that humidity has on paper was disconcerting to adjust to, different graphite weights felt very different from one session to the next. I'll call it 90% done. I flipped and mirrored it a bit with it in PS to see what needs doing, and I think there are a few things I can do to help out the pencil drawing. It's a bit beyond help, but such is life.
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    A note to self to post the FPS weapon here when I finish it. Hopefully this week, low and maps to go, but not a lot of things taking up freetime right now.
  • Jaco
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    Jaco polycounter lvl 17
    Good stuff, I like those figure sculpts, gun's pretty cool too.
    I think the texture of the Vates character is a bit bright and lacks color variation though, talking about the skin here.
  • LEViATHAN
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    LEViATHAN polycounter lvl 11
    The back part of the stock of the gun is supposed to be more triangular.

    VLTORSTOCKa.jpg

    Just look for 'VLTOR stock'.
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    Jaco: You're right, now that I've had enough time away to see it more clearly it's pretty much flat pink. Some browns and purples might do a world of good there, I'll have to go back and improve that -- thanks :)

    LEViATHAN: Nice save -- I completely screwed up that form. I had only had a vague sense that something was wrong there, but never went back at it with high res ref. The angle you picked (and telling me how to look it up ;) really made it clear. Thanks.
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    kary wrote: »
    LEViATHAN: Nice save -- I completely screwed up that form. I had only had a vague sense that something was wrong there, but never went back at it with high res ref. The angle you picked (and telling me how to look it up ;) really made it clear. Thanks.

    Sure.

    Also, http://www.pixagogo.com/2701224971
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    LEV: Damn I was on that site at the beginning, but somehow missed that page. It 3 pictures that my 'rest of the internet' search didn't find, so tx again.

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    one.jpg


    A friend has started a sculpting class and has to do 20 heads and I thought that might be a fun / good idea for me to try. I’ve never actually done a series of heads like this before, and it was an extraordinarily nice break from the modelling I was doing with the m32.

    Above is an hour and ten or fiften minutes, below is the same with ten minutes editing — after a 20 minute lunch break. Not pleased with either version, nor am I much bothered. Just learning so it’s within expectations.

    Slight variation:


    onehead_v2.jpg

    An anthropomorphic thing this time. Looked at a pic of a lab at the beginning for inspiration, then broke out my minimal anatomy skills to make a fun hybrid.

    The 1h 12m is the time it took, if you're wondering at the note in the bottom right. Same base mesh as the above (Arsh’s). I'm trying different base meshes as I go, but his is quite snazzy -- not a lot I can think of to improve it so far (and it's a faster start than the 'almost a box' I usually use). These sculpts are going to make me break out the anatomy books and review a bunch of muscles tomorrow when I’m drawing. .

    twohead.jpg


    Nice way to take a break. Burned a couple hours, but probably better for it. I've made good progress on the m32 this weekend, I've had to go back and prune out a lot of polys as I go, but the low poly and unwrap is half done (barrel and butt to go).

    ... and I need to learn how to do eyelids.
  • Cody
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    sweet dog head!
  • kary
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    kary polycounter lvl 18
    Thanks :). Two more:

    four.jpg

    Disappointing, but a good learning experience. I started off heavily cartoony, and was having a lot of fun with it. Then I was interrupted for 20-30 minutes and wound up making it another mindless generic bald guy when I came back to it.

    Generic Mindless Bald Girl:

    threehead.jpg

    25 minutes for the silly eye patch thing. 'Goofy mechanicals on heads' is a repeating theme for me, I have two more in mind that I'd like to do. Hope to have them turn out better.

    I'm going to do a P&P thread to finish up the gun. http://boards.polycount.net/showthread.php?t=54294 Seems like a solid way to get all the info into one spot, and then maybe I'll be able to easily do a write up of all the mistakes I'll learn from when it's wrapped.
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    Very good stuff kary :D, keep it up.
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    Dartiste: Thanks :D

    Wrapped up the gun:

    m32UEscreenshots.jpg

    Further shots / animation here.

    Intervain pointed out how masculine the neck on this was, so I made that quick fix:

    twohead_v2.jpg

    I tried another female here (very hard):

    sixhead.jpg

    fivehead_v2.jpg

    Irritable old rabbit.
  • curry23
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    You're models are looking very nice C:
    I would suggest some lifedrawing, especially gestures.
  • kary
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    Curry23:

    Thank you, and I agree on the life drawing. I am geographically impaired at the moment -- once I gain employ and move to a moderately urban centre I'll look into life drawing again. I would get much more out of it this time then the courses that I took at school. Those focused on drawing by line (contour, and similar) and I do a lot better on focusing on shapes (cube torso, cylinder arms, whathaveyou).

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    Did this for a 3dtotal modeling challenge. Going to turn her into a bit of sculptural decoration on a entryway I'm building. Quite a lot of things I want to fix now that I'm past the deadline. Hair, a bit more arms (maybe), clean up the wings, and rethink the armour. Probably close to good enough for a wall ornament now, but it'll bug me if I don't at least look at it.

    sevenhead.jpg

    Another head sketch -- I'm going to finish this one up shortly. Bit of weirdness around the lips and temple... and lots to fix.
  • kary
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    acrateexclaimationmark.jpg

    My first object with Silo really pushed the software. :)

    Silo seems great. Everything I've used so far is very well thought out and clean. There are a few things it needs (angle snapping and a less flow breaking way to flatten), but it has been fun to work with so far. Even the default keybinds made sense and being able to put (a lot) of commands on the mouse is brilliant.


    The box will be used for the cargo of the 'zeppellin' project. It will likely be small enough to be completely trivial, but if the repetitions in the textures are a problem they're easy to adjust.
  • kary
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    quickdrawnsketches.jpg

    First time scribbling with the new tablet. Pretty fun. Same crappy results, but now at twice the speed! :)
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    A little more sculpting and a very quick polypaint of the sculpt I did a few weeks ago, this is probably one of the few things I completely lost with the old computer:
    head-sp-zbcoloured.jpg

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    Doodle.
  • kary
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    genrocaster2.jpg
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    Started this Saturday. Might finish. Lots to fix. Fun so far.
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    reginorday3one.jpg

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    Not as much time as I would have liked so a small update Costume is a little closer and I wanted to try one of those demonic hand things. It looks like crap though so I'll scrap it tomorrow I guess. The strap around the shoulder is up for debate, and I should smooth some of the stuff on the apron, but I'll not be sure on those till tomorrow.
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    Reginor day 4: Now with more freaking looking staff action!

    reginorday41.jpg
    reginorday4multiangles.jpg
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    stafffirstlookat.jpg

    My main todo is to get some decoration on the staff (wraps where you hold it, a few gems, other cliche things). Take a shot at getting the costume onto the character (re: wrinkles, the raw shapes are enough now for me, it's cluttered enough for what I had in mind).

    I am aware that the super demonic staff and the white dressed character don't make immediate sense -- was just the first look I played with, will be bringing them together towards the end here.

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    A friend asked why my ZB renders were starting to look a bit better. After seeing Simon Blanc's stuff I finally realized you could get some control and a decent look out of ZB render so I started to composite things. Since I'm a visual learner (and it seems like a lot of buttons the first time you do it) I did this little tutorial for him: http://www.karyblack.com/wip/?p=908 Just in case anyone here is interested, toss a note here, or mail, or something if it's confusing. I'm not a polished writer etc. It's a very quick / hack method, not an uber controlled composite.
  • kary
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    reglowpolysecondlook.jpg
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    Just wrapped my first stab at the low. A lot to correct, but it went a lot faster then the last character I tried.

    Fun Silo bug: Incremental save on a file with a 100 name (IE: reginor100.sib) and it will hang. Less fun are the crash on normal saves, but by and large it's a great program :)

    It's the first draft so expect poly reductions and some cleanup, but if I've done anything fundamentally wrong please tell me -- not done enough of this to know where I might be going wrong.
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    Thanks Jaco :)

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    regmaps.jpg
    wires.jpg
    reginoralone.jpg

    Been doing a few other things and switched back to my normal computer, yay -- so much better, hope it keeps working.

    Getting closer to the finish now. I will take one more pass at the floating symbol thingy, and I want to put him in a very small environment. I do want to get onto the Unearthly Challenge as soon as I can.
  • wizo
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    hey kary. nice character! You put some beautiful work onto the hi-res but I feel your low-res could benefit from shadows. I suggest baking AO maps. You could put them on overlay onto the diffuse and spec map to boost the definition of shapes. Also the skin looks very uniform, try adding some reds in there. That being said, its looking good!
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    reginorAlone2.jpg
    regMaps2.jpg

    Thank you wizo, that was very helpful. Embarrassingly enough I did have AO on there, but apparently not strongly enough :) I've never been sure how much it is too much on something like a character, but looking at it now that was definitely not enough. On the lack of colour I associate older caucasians with fairly colourless skin, but I overdid that too. A little bit more made for some better defintions and in the rendered version, while it's not hugely dramatic, the chest area looks more lifelike.

    Hopefully everything comes together a bit better in a little. Lots of stuff to work on, appreciate them being pointed out :)
  • kary
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    womanmany.jpg
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    Started a new job, so this is the first time in a month or so that I've done a figure piece. Probably around 5 hours -- had some trouble finding some very basic landmarks, but at least it was fun. Kind of a relief to still find that I can lose myself for a few hours in sculpting despite doing similar stuff all day. I'm going to try to do some stuff with a bit more character than generic barbie girl real soon now :)
  • kary
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    Been awhile. Learning a lot of new things at work that have kept me from having to post, but here are a few things:

    alienmightaswellgoaheadwiththispos.jpg
    kary_alienlastcorseadjustment.jpg
    girlsketchjan09.jpg
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    sketch_withhair.jpg
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    selfportraitasanimallg.jpg

    Sketch for a CGtalk workshop.
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