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Ok so with the fall of hd-dvd and already owning a 360 I went ahead and picked up a PS3.

Figured I have netflix they do blu ray. Work has a huge game library to check things out so why not. Picked up the console, extra controller and remote for dvd and also picked up Ratched and Clank Future.

Get home unpack. What the fuck. It comes with a standard composite cable? Not even component. WOW. Ok I was gonna pick up HDMI anyways but I was gonna wait till Monday when I grab my new tv.

So yeah playing on fucking 480i didn't really interest me so I decided to just download some demoes, set the console up to share with my networked files, etc.

Why on earth does it take so long to download something? I can download a 1.2 gig file on the 360 pretty quickly but it took like 3 hours on the PS3. Is that normally like that?

I have a very fast net connection so I know it wasn't me.

So I can't make any judgements on the graphics just yet or any game play on anything new so I'll wait until thats all hooked up on Monday to let you all know.

Another thing. Sony boasts about how the console is hd ready out of the box but it doesn't have any cables that support hd in the box. My original 360 had component and my new elite has dvi. So what givs with that?

Also where are the 1080p games for PS3? Rock Band is 1080p on 360 and it's only 720p on the PS3. My guess is the wonderful constraints we as devs have to deal with on the ps3 and this is the cut back.

More to come but I just wanted to get everyone elses feed back and views on this and how they feel. What you guys like or dislike about the ps3 and maybe some peoples information so we can play some games.

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  • flaagan
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    flaagan polycounter lvl 18
    I personally don't own one, but I've heard coworkers describing the Sony network with various four letter 'colorful metaphors' in regards to its layout and its speed. The whole "install games to hdd" thing was not spoken with much love either.

    As for the 'peoples info', i suggest bugging the mods to start up a ps3 network tag thread much like the xbox live thread over in the Archives section.
  • Keg
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    Keg polycounter lvl 18
    not even component in the box? what version did you buy?

    Personally my biggest beef with the playstation 2 and now 3 has been the controllers. As someone that has bigger hands, the playstation controllers have always felt weak and breakable to me. Plus I don't like the analog placement much either.

    I'll instantly pick up a 60gb if I see one since there's some ps2 games i'd like to play otherwise i'll wait for this new rumor 120gb version with the rumble returned.
  • SouL
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    Hm. I have the 60GB PS3 that isn't backwards compatible with the PS2 (the $399 one). Prior to buying the PS3, I had already bought a new 1080p plasma TV. I also already owned a 360. So I bought a pair of HDMI cables (I went with the cheap ones... I got 2 for $20 - I've been told that they're all the same and that better quality is only reserved for longer cables). Turns out I have an older 360 that doesn't have the HDMI port. D'oh!

    So when I got the PS3 my HD set up was ready to go.

    My download speed off the PS Network seems comparable to XBL. *shrug* I always just que up downloads anyways then go off and watch TV.

    A majority of PS3 games are 1080p. Sony is reall keen on having its developers make their games at 1080p resolution.
    It should say on the back of the box what resolution the game is displayed in.
    Here is a site that has a list:
    http://www.makeyougohmm.com/ps3-1080p-games/
    http://www.makeyougohmm.com/xbox360-1080p-games/
    (Note the mention of native 1080p vs upscaled to 1080p)

    The PS3 is pretty robust. It does more past just playing games. There's the obvious blu-ray player built in (requires HDMI cable to play movies, though). It's upscaling capabilities of DVDs to higher resolutions is pretty good as well. The lastest update to the OS allows for DivX and WMV. So you can burn movies/porno onto a CD/DVD, pop it in the PS3 and watch in either the native resolution of the movie or upscaled. If you have the HDD space you can copy files off the disc.

    The way it interacts with the PSP is quite cool, too. Apart from freely transfering files between the 2, the PSP can remotely access your PS3. Let's say you installed a larger HDD into your PS3 and then loaded it up with movies and music. You can use your PSP to access that library of entertainment and view/listen to them on your PSP. A guy at work watches movies on his PSP at work off his PS3 at home.

    Built in web browser is fun to mess with. But really pretty useless. Only really useful for PS3 related downloads.

    PSN is pretty cool with their release of older classic PS1 games. You can either play them on your PS3, or play them on your PSP. Games range frome $5 - $10.

    I don't have many games for it, though. Since, honestly, there's almost nothing out there worth picking up. I bought the PS3 to play the Japanese version of Gran Turismo Prologue. Forgot to mention, that yeah, the PS3 is region free. Imported games play instantly. Then I picked up Devil May Cry 4. I borrowed Ratchet and Clank from work but haven't played it in a while.

    Installing the games is pretty lame. And a bit odd for a console. They do take up A LOT of space. Gran Turismo currently takes up some 5GB, Devil May Cry takes up about 4GB, and Ratchet and Clank some 800megs. WTF??

    For a little while I sort of regreted not picking up the 80GB version (has backwards compatibility, though emulated, plus a few other extras). But I haven't really been finding myself having a need for the extra space or extra functions. At the moment I use the PS3 to play games and watch movies.

    Oh... if you haven't opened the remote... return it! The controller works fine for controling movies.
  • SouL
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    SouL polycounter lvl 18
    Forgot to add...
    The image quality of things displayed in 1080p is crazy. It's fun watching blu-ray movies and being able to spot make up on actors, CG effects, and unbelievably lame props. Everything is so much clearer that all of the above becomes so much easier to spot. For movies it kinda goes both ways. It's great being able to see a much clearer picture. But at the same time you kind of get taken away from the immersion because of visual flaws are so easily seen.

    Games look pretty good in general at higher resolutions.
  • Keg
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Hm. I have the 60GB PS3 that isn't backwards compatible with the PS2...

    [/ QUOTE ]

    You sure you didn't get the 40gb version? the 60gb has full backwards without software emulation and was at the $499 price mark.
  • sonic
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    The reason that things are in 1080p on the 360 that are lower on the PS3 is because the 360 has a dedicated video scaling chip that will instantly scale any resolution to your TV's native res. The PS3 can only render at the resolution it was designed for or lower. That is one thing I love about the 360. Honestly, the missing an HDMI cable thing doesn't bother me much because you can find them for so cheap on Amazon.com and the PS3 has a lot of stuff the 360 lacks.

    Get Uncharted, R&C, Warhawk, and Resistance. Rent Heavenly Sword.
  • hawken
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    I picked up a ps3 when the hate hype was still in full swing.

    No complaints. It's appears the console was built as a perfect companion to my 40" bravia.

    I prefer that the controllers charge over usb. The data storage seems so much more "tidy" compared to the xbox, the trailer park for 1080p titles is nice, but hate the web interface.

    The web browser is shit, always crashes for me, so I don't use it, no big loss.

    Strangely enough downloading demos here in Japan is freaking fast. 1 gb or so in the time it takes to go and make a cup of tea and watch something else briefly. As is mentioned, just stack them up.

    When I first got it, I was brushing back the tears of happiness even playing shit titles like ridge racer, because 1080p gaming is close to euphoria, wears off though frown.gif

    also, its quieter than the xbox monster
  • Jesse Moody
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    So I have everything networked now. 360, PS3, PC. Pretty cool. I am gonna be picking up my new tv tomorrow so I'll wait till then to set up my hdmi and watch some blu ray loving and play ratchet.

    Overall I'm happy with my purchase. Playing old ps2 games doesn't matter to me as I have a ps2 for those if I wanted to, but since I don't play any old 360 games I don't intend on playing on ps2 games.

    Controller is so light and tiny in my ape hands that I feel like if I pulled just right I would rip it in half.
  • Ott
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  • Jesse Moody
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    Jesse Moody polycounter lvl 18
    WTF Ott. You ass. Nice to see your still around and you haven't had a heart attack yet.
  • Illusions
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    Illusions polycounter lvl 18
    [ QUOTE ]
    Rent Heavenly Sword.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Agreed, its fun but short and no replay value. The cinematics and gameplay make it better than some movies in the acting and character development department though...

    ...other times you will be annoyed. Like with hats...and gongs. Also, in most games, its best to turn off the motion sensing whatever it is and just use the sticks or the d-pad...cause motion sensing sucks.
  • oobersli
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    i rented the simpsons game for ps3. I'm not usually into those type of games.. but its somewhat entertaining. Flow is a good game that uses the sixaxis feature.
  • low odor
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    Hey Jesse you got COD 4 for that yet.. If so, add me Low_0der <---notice the zero for the O

    Also got orange Box

    That goes for everyone..I'm always up for shooting a felow polycounter in the face
  • sonic
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    sonic polycounter lvl 18
    Don't get Orange Box for PS3. I've heard it has horrible framerate issues.
  • low odor
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    low odor polycounter lvl 17
    never had a problem with it
  • SouL
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    SouL polycounter lvl 18
    Hawkens right, recharging the controller via the USB cable is fucking awesome. I absolutely hate that I had to BUY the "controller to system" cable for my 360 just so I could recharge my controller.

    Keg: I think they only have 2 models available for the PS3 these days. 60GB or 80GB. 20GB and 40GB versions have been discontinued. I was trying to find the 20GB ones for the hardware backwards compatibility... but no dice.
  • erik!
    Gamestop only sells the 40G and 80G (for now), until something else comes out.
  • bounchfx
    you mean like the 120 gig that is rumored to be coming out soon?
  • Emil Mujanovic
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    I've been considering picking up a PS3 for some time now, and hearing that HD-DVD is pretty much toast, it might be time I go out and get one.
    The 120GB is just a rumour at this stage? Might hang for a bit to see where this goes, because I did a similar thing with my 360. Picked one up, then about a month later they announced the elite. I don't even have one with the HMDI port either frown.gif

    -caseyjones
  • bounchfx
    i'm gonna go ahead and guess that the 120 gig will be out by april
  • sonic
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Hawkens right, recharging the controller via the USB cable is fucking awesome. I absolutely hate that I had to BUY the "controller to system" cable for my 360 just so I could recharge my controller.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    It is frustrating, but it's just as frustrating that the PS3 comes with no HD cables whatsoever. The cheapest HDMI cable you can find in a brick & mortar store is around $20 or $30 which is more than a charge cable for the 360 controller.
  • JDinges
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    Actually you can get 6ft HDMI cables from an online distributor for about $5-10 each. I bought 2 and they work just fine.

    Got the site's link at work.
  • oobersli
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    ya hdmi cable are cheap online. Got mine for about $4.50 with a few other ppl at work.
  • Jesse Moody
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    Jesse Moody polycounter lvl 18
    Yeah I am ordering a few from newegg but the point is I should have to order things from 100 different stores to get what I need. Sony should really include at the least component cables. People argue how the 360 isn't hd out of the box because it's not hddvd or blu ray but the games are. My ps3 came with the same cable that my PS2 came with. That is just not acceptable to me.

    So because I am inpatient I am off to grab an hdmi cable from Target. They had one for like 25 bucks. So I'll pay a little extra for convenience.
  • Keg
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    Keg polycounter lvl 18
    I hear good things about monoprice.com for hdmi cables
  • Geezus
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    Geezus mod
    Everyday Shooter should be your first downloaded game. GET IT.
  • Xenobond
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    Xenobond polycounter lvl 18
    Weird. I don't see any of the 80gb ps3's listed anymore on sites like best buy and gamestop. Wut gives?
  • Keg
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    Xeno: apparently there is a new 120gb unit coming out with the dual shock controller. Sony has said nothing so far so it's just a rumor.
  • hawken
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    hawken polycounter lvl 19
    the hdmi cable thing is a pain, but they tell you upfront at the store - also maybe it's wise financially for sony
  • SouL
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    SouL polycounter lvl 18
    Oh sorry. I have the 40GB. For some reason I keep thinking it's 60. Weird.

    If generic HDMI cables are so cheap why can't Sony include them in the box?

    I suppose Microsoft could do the same thing. But, you're right, at least they include component cables.
  • odium
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    If you get one game, get Uncharted. Awesome game.

    IF you get anything else, get it on the 360, or dont get it at all....
  • skankerzero
    my PS3 is a dvd / blue ray player! laugh.gif

    I have Uncharted but have yet to play it. Other than that, I played the toy car demo, I like that one.

    I buy my games on the 360. Much more my style.
  • odium
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    Play Uncharted dude, its one of the best games of 2007. Really smart, really good fun, wipes the floor with Tomb Raider. The only game that mae the PS3 seem worth it to me.
  • Joshua Stubbles
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    I love my PS3. LOVE IT. I actually use it more than my 360, though I don't have 1/2 as many games. I use it as my DVD/BluRay of course, but also as a media system for viewing images, etc from my camera/PC.
    Drakes Fortune is awesome, as is Ratchet & Clank.
  • Jesse Moody
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    Ok got the hdmi cable last night and watched spidey on blu ray. Pretty hot. But my new tv isn't here yet so i'll probably like it even more then.
  • moose
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    i dig my PS3, only negatives ive found is that:

    - plugging it in causes a ground loop
    - locoroco wouldnt work w/o an HDMI cable
    - didnt include an HDMI cable, or component cables >< gogo Hi-def.
    - requires seperate aparatus to transfer PS2 memory card data to it
  • Jay Evans
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    just a side note. Its super easy to swap HDs on the PS3, if you are looking for more storage. Check out some video tutorials online. Pretty sure it has no effect on your warranty.
  • Joshua Stubbles
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    Yeah, it's uber simple. I swapped mine out for a 200GB drive laugh.gif
  • Jesse Moody
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    Been playing Ratchet and Clank since I got done with dinner. Super fun game. Looks great. Good jobs guys at Insomniac. Arsh... Gonna try a little Resistence Fall of Man later.

    Besides the lack of hd cables in the box I am quite happy with my purchase. Overall a lot of fun so far.

    I'll probably upgrade the hard drive later on.

    What is up with the install an OS? Anyone know that?
  • Jeff Parrott
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    You can install Linux on it I believe. I haven't done anything like that myself. I've just recently figured out the PSP/PS3 connection thing in Pixeljunk Monsters. It's neato.
  • Jesse Moody
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    Ok so Resistence didn't get much loving last night. I only played for about 15-20 minutes so I can't make a fair judgement on that.

    I can't stand how you have to install games. What the fuck is that?
  • arshlevon
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    the installs are to make load times shorter. resistance starts kind of slow, really gets interesting toward the end. the alien environments look cool.
    2 will be better, i promise

    i was really hating on sony in the beginning, and i still dont think i would have a ps3 if work didn't get us all one, but i like mine, at the moment its really just a fancy movie player for me, i do like psn though, love sotn.. *** after some actual reasearch microsoft does have some dedicated servers, just some games dont, also seems to be a common misconception.**
    i hear resistance 1 has good multiplayer, i don't know never played it, hahha. been meaning to get around to it, but after looking at it all day at work, last thing i want to do is look at it when i get home.
  • cochtl
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    I wish i could look at you all day when i get home frown.gif
  • Lee3dee
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    i bought a 80GB ps3 last week, Ratchet & Clank is keeping me occupied until something better comes out.

    psn: gizm0san
  • bounchfx
    6tpph4.jpg

    looks like i'm getting one now. only have a few months to save up
  • Lee3dee
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    damm i should of waited longer frown.gif so i wouldn't of gotten Motorstorm.
  • bounchfx
    yeah theres pretty much no way I can regret this purchase.. unless the game sucks (which it wont), or unless it doesn't come with the CE version of the game (which it also won't), so I'm going to have to sell the copy I get and pick up the ce version.

    fucking a
  • moose
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    they wont release a CE version of MGS4. it'll come out 6 months later as Metal Gear Solid 4: Subsitisubsisnatinence.

    i love Metal Gear and all, but it is a little odd that i have 7-8 MGS games, of the 3 actual titles that have been released in the past few years smile.gif

    MGS, MGS-VR missions, MGS-Gamecube, MGS2, MGS2-sub, MGS3, MGS3-sub, MGS Anthology (incoming)
  • SouL
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    Moose... you're missing the Documentary of MGS2.
    That making-of disc they released showing off in-game assets in an in-game controllable viewport. FIND THAT SHIT NOW!!
  • Joao Sapiro
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    thats pretty awesome soul !got any link regarding that ?
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