Da Vinci and art?

almighty_gir

actually i'm just having trouble finding a simple reference:

there is a drawing made by Da Vinci which shows facial proportions, it has a triangle from the forhead to the mouth, which shows how the edges of the lips coincide with the width of the eyes and the length of the nose, in proportion to the width of the head etc.

i just want it so i can practice sketching "perfect people" if you get me?

i already have a copy of "the vitruvian man" that i use for body proportions.

low odor

heres a bigger one

MoP

that side view Low Odor posted is incredibly squashed.

JKMakowka

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that side view Low Odor posted is incredibly squashed.

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How dare you... this is art by one of the great masters!!!
I can assure you that that is how people looked in the 14th century!

Edit: And if they didn't... well at least it's how they should have looked!

Joseph Silverman

MoP means the image file. Google turned up an accurate version.

pior

Blame the leftie!!
(see the crosshatching angle)

Ruz

wonder if da vinci made a prototype 3dsmax also, made from wood and twigs.

Keg

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wonder if da vinci made a prototype 3dsmax also, made from wood and twigs.

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Probably had better selection tools too :P

Ruz

the slection cursor would also be a twig

pliang

And normals maps would be literally "baked" on.

Ruz

with mud:) seriously though It would be cool if he had invented photoshop too.
I reckon he would be a 3d artist if he had been alive today

J Randall

well that or a bomb scientist/engineer maybe working at area 51 or whatnot.

rooster

I know! -and mudbox is.. is.. ehmm..


nope its gone

Illusions

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Is it just me or are Da Vinci's "perfect people" fucking ugly? If you have to go with one of those guys, did you ever hear of Michelangelo?

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He had an entire series of drawings devoted to horrendously ugly people...its like he never quite got away from it.

almighty_gir

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Is it just me or are Da Vinci's "perfect people" fucking ugly? If you have to go with one of those guys, did you ever hear of Michelangelo?

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i was trying to focus on the theory behind the forms, not the forms themselves =]

aesir

michaelangelo had SEVERE proportion issues. not that he cared.

aesir

obviously he had a lot of shit that was perfect, and he was a master of his craft. His characters that were weird proportionally were done intentionally.

THat doesnt change the fact that he occasioanlly made figures that were 9 heads tall.

tremulant

The fact that they were much more realistic with their art then the better part of the population today, and didnt have tons of photo ref and the internet is a testament to how they truly were masters.

Aesir- were you referring to "David", because that was purposely elongated because of the height of the statue and how it would look from a person looking up from the ground.

Show me his 9 head figures...and even if they do exist, its irrelevant, plenty of us make characters that are 8 heads high, because it's heroic..hate to see how they bash game art 400 years from now, lol.

aesir

I'm not talking about David which was made how it was made for aformentioned reasons. I understand that (saw it in person). Nor am I trying to belittle Michaelangelo's ability or to say I dont respect him and his work. I really like pretty much all of his works.

All I'm saying is, I wouldn't advise a beginner, who is trying grasp the basics of form and proportion, learn from michaelangelo.

I looked around for the sketches I'm thinking of, but couldnt find them.

I specifically remember them from a book on michaelangelo, which I read most of the way through, and the author commented on the fact that michaelangelo's proportions were oftentimes very exagagerrated and how positions that people were posed in, would be impossible for a real person to acheive. It was very apparent in a couple of his sketches.

But then, they were just his sketches, not his finished works. His finished works are always impeccable. Perhaps he would have burned the sketches Im thinking about in a bonfire with the rest of his sketches had he been able to find it. (michaelangelo burned a shit-ton of his unfinished works because he didnt want people to see them).

Are we seeing my point though. Im not showing disrespect, Im simply saying that there are better places to study anatomy from.



(Im thinking this isnt gonna make things better... Im probably not gonna continue to argue about this.)

aesir

alright, I used the wrong words. Issues does sound like its unintentional. I should have said his proportions were occasionally unrealistic due to his aesthetic choices.

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