black panther superhero (by marvel) wip

Japhir

So finally i decided to work on a character project with more than my usual 500 polys projects, and i started on this black panther character by marvel.
This is where i'm at:

Crits and comments are most welcome, because i still don't really know how i can make some proper shoulder geometry.
Thanks!

dejawolf

hmm, i thought marvel characters was forbidden to create?

Jesse Moody

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hmm, i thought marvel characters was forbidden to create?

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Yeah what he said.

East

Is that some Polycount specific rule? I don't think Marvel can forbid anyone to make fan art for personal use.. :P Although.. Marvel is very big nowadays, so I suppose there's no such thing as goodwill, and I guess committing PR suicide would be right up their alley

Good start so far, though. Nice silhouette. Still a bit early to really comment, but if you want me to really grasp for straws.. perhaps a bit more loops around the joints for easier deformation?

Jesse Moody

I'm pretty sure they are against all fan art to be honest. I know a lot of people have received good ole letters in the mail or email telling them they will be beaten with sticks and drawn and quartered if they don't stop. Ok maybe not that bad but still...

East

For some reason that makes me quite upset. I think I'll go make a Marvel character..

Japhir

damn i didn't know that... what should i do? stop this project or just continue until i hear something about it. it's just for personal purposes, not going to sell it or anything...
well thanks anyway for pointing it out!

stimpack

that cant be true. think how much spiderman and wolverine fan art you see floating around! keep goin man, i really doubt anyone will bust ur nuts for making this.

East

I think you should keep at it. If they do contact you with a cease and desist order, you post it here so we can laugh at it and band together and claim our artistic freedom of expression.

Well at least that's my suggestion. But I'm also in anarchy overdrive mode at the moment :P

Besides. You're Dutch. What can they do? Take your drugs away? (That was a joke. For the most part.)

Japhir

hahha lol :P i don't do drugs, even though some of it is legal here
thanks guys, i mailed the guy from the website i got it from and hopefully he/she tells me everything is ok and i don't need to worry about beeing spammed until my internet doesn't work properly anymore :P (kidding)

Keg

Marvel mostly has problems if you're creating something to be put into a game. If it's portfolio stuff you're generally safe. Think it falls under fair use

gavku

Dude just make it you'll be fine. Josh made an Iron man, and that even managed to make its way into a comic.

oobersli

ya could always make him purple... the purple panther

Japhir

i've been working on the torso with some images of torso geometry, but it still is difficult for me.. crits most welcome:

i moved the verts so that he's in a t pose just to check if there is enough geometry there, and there wasn't so i added some, then moved it back so that i can still use the reference.
btw: i decided to just keep working on it :P

Ged

thats looking good, quite neat really. Marvel should be proud :P

Japhir

thanks!
update:

added some ass and feet :P

ElysiumGX

This looks good so far. But be warned.

About two years ago I was creating some characters like this for a Quake3 mod when Marvel contacted us with the following:
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Demand is hereby made that you immediately cease and desist from further production and distribution of the above-referenced software through your website, host websites, fan sites, peer to peer sites and through any other outlet you may utilize. Further, we hereby demand that you: ...blah blah blah

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Should be ok if you display it on your portfolio, but I wouldn't submit it anywhere to be used in a game. They ignore any emails you send back explaining it's only fan art, and no profit is being made.

Jeremy Lindstrom

my only suggestion would be less ass crack unless he's naked.. But looks awesome!

Piotr Słomowicz

Don't super heroes have really tight clothes or something? I don't know, I didn't read comics. So the crack would be ok. Anyway model looks good so far.

stimpack

haha this is turnin out fun. Your mesh looks really nice so far. less ass crack and more man buldge is the marvel way

peppi

Very cool silhouette!

Japhir

thanks a lot guys!
@ElysiumGX: i don't even know how to put in a game engine so that won't be a problem. thanks anyway :P
i've been working on the head, redid it twice and this is what i've come up with so far:

Japhir

finished the head and neck:

Asthane

My main crit is character choice. I mean, is there even any point in rotoscoping from the model sheet? It's a naked dude with no mouth or hair with two little spikes for his ears. Not that there's anything wrong with doing a basemesh, but that's about all he is.

In fact, if it were me I would specifically avoid the model sheet. Many comic artists have an annoying habit of giving everyone the exact same anatomy. That's neither here nor there though, there's nothing wrong with making the character accurate to his sheet, though specifically not rotoscoping may help you deviate from the grid-like meshflow.

Joseph Silverman

Grid like meshflow is easy to uv for and deforms well, though. Seems fine as is.

Jeremy Wright

Cool, man. BP is underrated if you ask me. He was always one of my favorites. T'challa has had a few costume makeovers over the years; I wouldn't do the solid black jumpsuit or the pimped out Marvel Knights version. To me the thing that always made the suit was the gloves and boots. I'm sure you have plenty of reference but here are some more:

Japhir

@Asthane: I liked is simple design and shape, and i wanted to finally learn how to make good torso with good shoulder topology, so a simple character would do fine. I know about all the superheroes have the same shape, but i like that shape :P (ok that sounds gay... :P)Once i've got the topology done i might mess with the proportions a bit though.

@Suprore: exactly what i was thinking! :P

@8FtSpider: thanks! i found lots of those references already, but still it's nice to see you would choose the same costume design i wanted to choose :P really i saw them all on line and i wanted to do this one (Y)

@per128: haha jep :P (well actually not because he is married to storm.. but whatever)

Japhir

i think i'm done with the modeling:

hands took me quite a while... made them seperately with good reference so that i can use them for other projects as well.
crits definetely welcome!

dejawolf

nice progress there.
actually, i dont think its tights. its probably bodypaint..

Japhir

thanks but no, it's a suit made of vibranium :P which can of course stop bullets etc.
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackpanther.htm

Jeremy Wright

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thanks but no, it's a suit made of vibranium :P which can of course stop bullets etc.
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackpanther.htm

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Protip: it can stop Wolverine's claws, too.

ChaosEidolon

vibranium eh....so thats how he bagged storm

emerge

nice topology

Japhir

thanks!
i started on the texture, just two colors for the body for now, still very wip what do you guys think?

Xaltar

The abdominals look off to me for some reason, I can't quite figure out why. Other than that its a good start on the texture.

indian_boy

agreed about the abs. maybe the part down the middle is too dark or something?
otherwise its looking pretty good.

3DGURU

I like your work , and texing , but enhance them

I posted to thank you for the blueprints links

Joseph Silverman

Model and UVs are looking good, but you still have a long way to go on the texture. Right now it's kinda monotone and blobby -- tighten the anatomy and try to get more interesting color and lighting in there.

I did a quick paintover to show what I mean, but it could be taken a lot further than what I did. This is still pretty low contrast, and all:

Japhir

thanks a lot! paintovers rock! :P i'll work on it soon. i always have the contrast issue when texturing... :S i figured that when adding more highlights (with a brighter color, check pallette) the contrast would increase outomaticly, but i'll first improve it how it is now, and then maybe add a highlight here and there.
thanks again!

Japhir

ok little bit of an update, now that i see your paintover i see what i can improve straight away... so thanks again (Y)
the back is worst i believe, so when i work on it again that will be my main focus.

Japhir

someone over at gamingartisans told me the anatomy didn't look very good yet (and i noticed that when posting too, espeacially his back and torso) so i looked up some anatomy reference here and drew some guidelines. now before editing the entire texture to match the guidelines and make it look amazing :P i'd like some crits on the guidelines/anatomy.


thanks in advance!

Joseph Silverman

Y'know, 90% of that was in my paintover

Anyway, everything looks to line up about right except the back. Grab some ref images of people, not just muscle charts, with really well defined musculature on their backs. Should help out a lot.

D4V1DC

Try to grab BodyPaint or Deep paint 3D those helped me out a lot.

Good luck!