manhunt 2 banned
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http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/797/797657p1.html
just caught this on the news.
Could be the slippery slope to general games censorship.
just caught this on the news.
Could be the slippery slope to general games censorship.
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Green blood is the answer...
here is the bbc article.
yeah, get the zombies in:)
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/06/19/breaking-manhunt-2-rated-adults-only-by-esrb/
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Solution seems like it would be just not to try and sell games off 90% shock value and 10% awful stealth gameplay.
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There wasn't that much shock value in the game. I'd say it was closer to 50% shock value, 40% trying to justify the violence by making the guys you "brutally murder" (with the same goddamn piece of glass or plastic bag for the first 50 levels) SUPER EVIL SO ITS OK REALLY GUYS, and 10% absolutely crap stealth gameplay.
Last I heard (Which was admittedly a long time ago) there was only one South Australian senator blocking the R Rating, so if we were to cast of Adelaide to fend for itself, we'd be all good.
With the massive loss of sales all this will entail, do we think this'll finally kill off Take2? They've been having problems for a while.
The material needs removing from the game and whoever's bright idea that was needs their own head examined. Using the murder of a young boy in this way is simply beyond belief and shows no respect at all for either the child or his parents.
I swear I'll dance a frikken jig the day someone whispers in the ear of ratings/classifications boards (particularly in Australia) and informs them that people over the age of 18 play games and there are games out there specifically aimed at that demographic. Although from some previous attempts to do this by games organizations down here, a bat to the head might be more appropriate. I hear the average age of the average gamer these days is 28 and we don't even have an R rating down here.
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Don't even fucking pretend this is aimed at people OVER 18.
Seriously, if you're going to talk about adult gamers, this is not what you should use to backup your statement.
Ofcourse there'll be people over 18 who play this, but that's not their main demographic. I don't believe that. Anytime someone adds disproportionate amounts of gore to anything, it's to appeal to children, or at the very least the child inside of adults.
While I don't agree with banning any game, using real live imagery of a very young toddler, who was savagely beaten to death and then left on the railway track to be cut in half (which he was) is absolutey disgusting.
The material needs removing from the game and whoever's bright idea that was needs their own head examined. Using the murder of a young boy in this way is simply beyond belief and shows no respect at all for either the child or his parents.
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wrong game
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While I don't agree with banning any game, using real live imagery of a very young toddler, who was savagely beaten to death and then left on the railway track to be cut in half (which he was) is absolutey disgusting.
The material needs removing from the game and whoever's bright idea that was needs their own head examined. Using the murder of a young boy in this way is simply beyond belief and shows no respect at all for either the child or his parents.
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wrong game
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Which fucking game was that? That's some fucked up shit, right there.
Which fucking game was that? That's some fucked up shit, right there.
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This is tacked to a bulletin board in the Law and Order videogame. Pretty sure it's part of clutter in a detective's office.
In related news, the entire British media is getting an AO rating for using this image.
This was the game. What the fuck were these idiots thinking.
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=53790&in_page_id=34&in_a_source=
Hopefully it keeps this stupid excuse for a game off the Wii platform, and influences Rockstar to make games that sell because of quality and gameplay, instead of bad press.
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That would go against their whole business model.
The diff between movies and games is pretty drastic. One you watch simulated murder. The other you actually do it. I think the big flaw of the ratings system is not the system. Its careless parents and stores selling games to anyone despite the ratings that causes the problems. I also don't like it when people keep referring to titles like this as "Mature thats total bullshit. In model_design the other night someone was talking about an anime and said something along the lines of "I expected it to be more mature with blood and killings, but instead they just talked a lot." which I found the thought of blood and killing to be more mature than talking to be a bit funny.
To make things short is shock value games are stupid unless they are also "GOOD" games.
Parents and stores start assuming some responsibilities.
Game companies stop trying to fuck things up by making shitty games that push the limits of violence but don't even attempt to push the limits of fun.
I say that I want to have manhunt2 on my wii, I enjoy the horror-themes such title can bring, this is no postal-game.
There was this game on the 360 released some time ago where you beat up animals with a shovel until their intrails exploded upon the grounds, where upon the other animals would feast.
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and they were incestuous too! of course, this was bright and fluffy viva pinata, and not dark and gloomy Brother and Sister Intestine Fucker.
Darn, I was realy looking forward to this brilliantly retarded game
in other news... What the hell is with M rated vs AO rated games? ITS A ONE YEAR DIFFERENCE. Apparently a shit load happens between ages 17-18. I didn't notice much outside of the fact that I got laid (maybe thats it?)
I just think it's annoying to have these 17+ games that are perfectly fine to sell in stores (and why shouldnt they be) but then 18+ being banned and not sold anywhere, there is a lot worse crap in R rated movies (which are also 17+). I say get rid of AO and make it part of M. I mean, if you are mature.. then there you go. One year shouldn't make this huge of a fuss
they have to have a rating which means "this is acceptable, though adult" (R, M for games) and then the "this isn't acceptable" (NC-17, AO). they don't call it rated-X any more, but that's still what it means.
they can ban a movie or game, effectively, without really banning it, since just as major retailers (Wal-Mart et al) and major movie chains won't carry NC-17 rated films, they won't carry AO games for the same reasoning--getting NC-17 or AO means commercial death, so it's as effective if not moreso than an actual ban, and much tidier to carry out.
so I think it's safe to assume we will see manhunt 2 out and rated M later this year (or next year)?
All the controversy was simply over a picture of the kid?
That's it?
Basically, 4 or 5 years ago an artist at an american games company needed a CCTV image and they one used was from a british murder 10 years previous to that.