#35 - E.S.S. - Adam Bromell

adam

In on this one! I do have one question though... does it have to be a skate park specifically or can we go further out-there and do something you'd see in TonyHawk World™, where there's ramps and rails everywhere?

...I'd like to do something thats somewhere in the middle of that.

aesir

I'm sure they'll let you go as wild as you want within the basic theme.

Emil Mujanovic

Yeah, I was considering doing the same thing. I don't see why you can't though. Hopefully I get some time to do so, crunching for the next 2 weeks. GAH!

-caseyjones

Penzer

"There is no other limitation to what you can do with the track/park besides these technical specs"

I assume that means you're good to go.

bearkub

Penzer got it right. =]

adam

I did this over the weekend. It still needs to be unwrapped, textured & lit.

The idea I came up with was that this particular 'level' in a hand-held skate boarding game took place a top a set of 3 sky-scrapers.

In this game, the skaters trick on or in unusual locations: By scaling up the side of the building using grappling hooks, zip lining from a distant skyscraper, or parachuting in to the heighest of the 3, the skaters were able to reach this exclusive skate park above the concrete jungle.

The scene w/out the decal planes showing:


The scene with the decal planes showing:


The scene outline:


Based on the limits of the challenge I assumed it was for a hand-held game and was vertex lit. As well, I'm not going for something completely realistic. Theres liberties taken in scale to go with the assumption it would be for a handheld, so I made some things uncharacteristically larger.

vahl

nice man, I like what you did

andym12

Looks great, I reckon you should put some more decals on the ramps themselves though.

Jaco

Awesome idea. Some human shaped chalk marks and broken skateboards on the ground below would be a nice touch

Joseph Silverman

This looks really cool, Adam. I've been planning to enter, and this both inspires me to actually start something and makes me want to give up.

Tulkamir

Damn Adam, this is lookin sweet. How are you doing the actual arcitecture of the buildings though? I don't see any windows modeled in, are they just going to be textured in? (I could see that for the lower windows, but for the ones near the top/user's view could this not be a bit problematic? Or is the scene low res enough that based on the size of the screen on a handheld it'd be barely noticeable?)

adam

Vahl, thanks.

andym12, right on man. I never thought of the ramps themselves. Will do for sure.

Jaco, thanks meng. I don't think I'll be showing the ground. I've got something else planned for that.

SupRore, awesome! Getchyer ass in gear and get to posting! And thanks :P

Mitch, I may go and add in some geometry for the window sills but nothing much. I'm also planning on using some environment maps for the windows to give the illusion of reflection. I'll either render out a fake cubemap or supply it with some images of NYC or something.

Further tasks:

-investigate reflective surfaced ala environment map masking for the windows
-Create simple building shapes to be used in the background, then DoF them from view (of course!)
-Look in to creating fog lighting from the ground up to hide the bottom (clouds? blackness? smog?)
-Attach the entire scene together and unwrap to a seperate UV channel and fake a lightmap by cooking AO to the new UV and rendering that out, then post it in Photoshop to fake a light map. (No engine to use).

ghost-d

Very nice concept. And it´s really cool how you separated the skate park, so you don´t have to care about integrating it in some environment and you can focus purely on the main part. Great!

Emil Mujanovic

NICE! Love the concept dude and it's looking great so far. Really looking forward to seeing what you do with the textures and the lighting.

-caseyjones

Spacey

Looks great so far. All those little touches you plan on adding are definitely going to make it that much more awesome. Can't wait for the textures.

Emil Mujanovic

Just had a second look and noticed that some of the pipes are looking a little steep, might be just the angle of the screens though. But worth checking out just in case.

-caseyjones

Joao Sapiro

please finish this

Fuse

Nah it's gonna go on the backburner...

But prove us wrong adam!

adam

I'll get her done. The new date is July 6th so there's plenty of time.

Tulkamir

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there's plenty of time.

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Famous last words.

adam

Just a tiny update tonight showing the planned textures and the real-estate they take up:


I'm new to this low resolution malarkey so if anyone has some input that has done this before that'd be great.

Thanks!

Joshua Stubbles

Since when was 1024 "low res"? haha
Even these days, that's still a good size texture.

Can't wait to see this getting textured, Adam. It's a whacky crazy design, and I'd expect no less from your nutty Canadian ass!

Steve Schulze

For efficiency sake, wouldn't you be better to split off all your decal alpha textures and whatnot so you don't have 1024 of alpha map, or am I just thinking in old-timey DS mode here.

Joshua Stubbles

It all depends on the engine, jack. Loading multiple textures can have a greater impact on performance than just loading one larger one. But that depends on how optimized the memory handler is. On PS2, we routinely broke the Vram by tossing to much at it :P

Ramj

Really inspiring stuff, I wasn't going to take part in this but I thikn it'd be really good practice

adam

Oh, I was planning on having a bunch of textures. The image shown was just to see how I utilized the restricted resolution.

Thanks Ramj.

Joshua Stubbles

*Cracks the whip*

Shows me sum texchtures, mmmkays? Gettyups BOY! Mes all waytin' n' schtuff

adam

Some texturing work over the weekend. I've purposely done the screenshot as a viewport capture so I can leave the lighting and other texture passes for the final render(s). I've got some stuff planned I'd rather not ruin in WIP shots.

HonkyPunch

Nice work thar, 3d sir

Joshua Stubbles

Haha, that's looking great, Adam.

vahl

good start man

Joao Sapiro

really nice adam, althou i visualized it a bit more colourfull

Japhir

really cool! you should definetely add some (not too much) graffiti here and there! that would make it even cooler!

osman

Good Work addam , tho i'd really like to see it without the wires .

Emil Mujanovic

That's coming along really well dude, a few tiling problems (like windows clipping into the walls) but all of which I'm sure you'll address with updates.
Looking forward to seeing more.

-caseyjones

adam

I'm planning on doing 4 shots total, 1 for each floor of the skate park and one over an overall shot, hopefully showing off the sexy environment map the windows are rendering.

As I had mentioned before, I pictured this to be something you'd get on a PSP so I thought it'd be neat if all the renders were comp'd on to a photo of a PSP. Below is one of the 4 angles I'm planning.

I am still not happy with the lighting (not at all). So thats probably going to be different when I'm done. The only thing faked with the shot is the photo background, and the AO. I'm not finished with the geometry yet so I didn't want to bother creating the light map. What you see in the picture, I think, is a fair representation of what the final shot should look like.

Oh, and I'd reaaaally love a character or 2 to pose in this scene and take pics of. Just sayin' :P

Joao Sapiro

i see like 3 colors maximum on that man, make stuff pop more cmon !

Jesse Moody

nice man. You could always use Ben's skater dude from his site. If not there are a few more guys around here that have made skater dudes that should work.

This is looking hot.