Spider-man 3!!!!
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Well the movie every comic book nerd and geek alike (thats you) came out, anyone go to the midnight showing? I shall be going at noon.
Reviews: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/spiderman_3/
Reviews: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/spiderman_3/
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Besides, my costumes better.
There's a 6AM show on IMAX here too. Wonder if there'd be anyone at all.
There were some plot holes that felt rushed. Pacing was WAY off.
All this was expected though when you try and put 3 villains in the story.
spiderman = lose
Sand man effects were cool though.
And they really talked me to death!
They leave the ending pretty open.... Venom will be back, I'm pretty sure.
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(save the girl or save the kids, save the train or go after octo)
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I don't think that's much of a choice. Because he saved both the kids and the girl. And choosing to save the train over chasing Octo was pretty obvious.
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fun movie..not great, not even 'good', but it was certainly not the train wreck xmen 3 was. I was entertained. rottentomato-o-meter is pretty accurate on this one.
i really wish there was only the sandman and spidey/osborn team up and no venom. talk about rush jobs. if the damn movie ended where the venom goop lands on brock that would have been great. a movie TOTALLY devoted to the venom baddie would have been a lot better than this shoehorned crappola i saw today ><
ans as stated above, the character development and pacing was terrible. i can picture the movie execs directing this one and making all the choice decisions that lead to this 'meh' story.
It felt like the logical progression, there was a lot packed in there and I enjoyed that.
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Over all, it was okay-good.... but the best part of that movie-hall experience was watching the Pirates of the Carribbean 3 trailer
MaryJane singing and a lot of "i love you" moments.
Venom was on-screen for such a short time and was killed even quicker. The sandman effects were awesome! as was the alien black creature. Having not read any of the comics, going as a movie go'er I reeally enjoyed it! The harry Potter trailer was awesome btw
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We don't really see Venom died. The bomb blew up, then we see tiny piece of Venom's part burning. It leaves a lot of possibility that Venom may have escaped. Even more possible because it got back on it's host at the very last moment.
well, if the Symbiote did survive, Venom still isn't coming back. When Brock jumped into the bomb-blast, he definately died, and Eddie Brock + Symbiote IS Venom... So venom himself isn't coming back. Maybe another symbiote, but not the Venom.
You have to figure that Peter was going through an identity crisis during his black suit phase. If any of you have seen someone going through an identity crisis, you'd certainly recognize it in Peter Parker.
I didn't feel it was rushed, either. It moved along rather well. Some said there was to much love story, but I didn't feel as though there was.
The end battle was awesome. The sandman visuals were really top notch (gotta love the whole glass-arm segment). Very cool stuff. I'll be seeing it again for sure.
Goth/Emo parker was awesome.
I was going to go in the morning but I felt like shit and slept late, so I went at night. Line was 4x around the whole place and it's a small ass theater.. nearly all of the showings went to spiderman and it was still packed/sold out.
but yeah all and all I really enjoyed myself.
I swear, some of you guys can find a flaw in every movie in existence. You have to remember they have to change things around to adapt a thousands-of-comics storyline to a few movies storyline.
was going to go today since it is free for students on fridays, my friend(who is a huuuuuge Spidey fan) had to go to the ER (she's doing fine now)
going to try to go sometime today
Venom deserved his own movie...
Edit: Snemmy, someone does not want you seeing this movie.
OH MY GOD
EMO PETER PARKER.
I forget names... but Goblin Jr. He was pretty funny when he didnt remember shit. Its like he was high.
Best part of the movie because it was actually pretty funny under the circumstances: pete parker looks in that mirror, and pulls his bangs down to become goth and went "strutting" I laughed so hard.
Another funny audience moment. When parker hits MJ.. all the people in the theater and mostly the girls went .. "awwww.." in discust and sadness, then this one guy yelled .... "YEAHY !!!!!" Then everyone with a sence of humor laughed.
yeah dancing emo peter was really funny
what is the story of carnage? time to do some wikipedia reading...
dunst was irritating & throughout, i was kind of hoping she was going to get the same treatment as gwen stacy in the comic (snap!). peter parker is not emo. every thing about whichever-goblin he was stunk, though the first fight was done pretty well.
but venom was not only done wrong, it all just seemed tacked on at the very end. Either it should had venom or not. but just 20 minutes of... ooh suddenly one of his greatest nemeses is here & ... roll credits. but when you see him & sandman plotting & you hear eric forman's voice coming out of venom, it made me want to punch babies. it should have been hissing, raspy, clicking & totally inhuman sounding. & where was the neon green drool? where was the idea that the suit had a mind of it's own (like why didn't parker have a voice in his head or why didn't venom refer to himself as 'we'?!).
mind you i still dig it more than the first one lol but not the second.
EDIT - also... did the ending feel like ghostbusters 1 & star wars new hope? spoil- i mean with the giant staypuft sandman & whiny ass goblin bailing his ass out han solo style? gah. it lost so much cred in my opinion right there. spidey's the persistent underdog, but he always comes through on his own...
-J
*spoiler continuation plus speculations*
well, if the Symbiote did survive, Venom still isn't coming back. When Brock jumped into the bomb-blast, he definately died, and Eddie Brock + Symbiote IS Venom... So venom himself isn't coming back. Maybe another symbiote, but not the Venom.
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Not true, the Venom symbiote is a particular entity itself, any host it joins with becomes Venom. It has joined with a few people, Brock being the first (excluding spidey etc.). The current Venom is the villian formerly known as 'Scorpion' I believe.
But I havent seen the movie yet, dont know that I will either
a lot of people seem to forget this is NOT supposed to be a recreation of the comics, which is one reason I think people are bitching so much
a lot of people seem to forget this is NOT supposed to be a recreation of the comics, which is one reason I think people are bitching so much
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<brian posehn nerd rage voice> yes it is! and they totally ruined it by not giving spiderman the symbiote suit as a result of Secret Wars!!! </brian posehn nerd rage voice>
i think there's a general understanding among people that know the comic that it can't be the comic, but there were plenty of tiny details they seemed to glaze over for no good reason (like venom speaking as two people), a lot of things that made the characters & the storylines they adapted interesting. and it's not like they would have had that much more of an impact on the story. but it would have been cool for the fans of the books.
i think the reason people are bitching the most is because it's the first time there's been a live action version of venom, who people seem to really dig, & it ended up being a dud.
-J
Spiderman was good but a few things could have been improved. the whole Staying Alive strut/dance number was dumb.
and i didn't hate the movie. Just the fact that Venom wasn't given the respect he deserved [what with only 20 minutes]. and good point about the Symbiote being Venom, and not Brock + Symbiote being Venom.
i could actually imagine the next few Spidermans [Spidermen? lol] having the different seeds of Venom, and carage... wait, wasn't it just Venom -> Carnage -> Toxic [or Toxin or something?]..... ooh! good material for the next two parts! So when are they releasing?
cheers
Rhino hasnt been in the spidey movies yet right? He was a fav of mine growing up. I havent watched any of the Spidey movies all the way through, cant stomach them
Spoils:
-The Sandman subplot was actually the best part of it even though I expected it to be worse.
-Trying to fit Venom into it versus maybe just his intro at the end was too much and ruined the films pacing and character development.
-Confused on when Peter realized he couldn't take off his suit, and somehow started tearing it off in the belltower (yes I have read & have Web of spider man 1). I think to a viewer unknown to Spideys comic background, they would have wondered what the hell was going on there.
they got rid of all the things that made me dislike the first two(MJ being a bitch and giving parker no reason to like her and the writing for her has just been horrid until this movie, the pro-NYC-patriotism shite/carrying spidey like a deity on the train. there was the flag bit but it was only a second and half so it was okay, and thank god they didnt do anything with 'rediscovering' his powers in this one. it was like the first two were the same film with different villains)
the strut scene was really corny but really funny as well. which as me and friends discussed later, is probably the symbiote pumping out hormones and pheromones in parker.
and i was telling them that yeah Brock is dead but think about this.. Eddie Brock JR is dead.. there is still a piece of the symbiote with Connors.. and what would be a good reason for Venom to despise Spidey?
needed less Brock face and more Venom speaking.
Sandman stuff was excellent.
and OMG.. Gobby Jr's headshots..
i think the entire theater winced in that scene.
well really there were an amazing amount of hardcore body/head shot brutal hits in this movie. i really enjoyed seeing the characters suffer in this one
it took a long while but i think they reached a good point in the movies with the script and main character out of the way. Now they can focus on the villians and action a bit more.
Batman was circling the drain on its third film.
Blade was an embarrassment when it reached its third film.
X-Men fell on its face with its third film.
Spider-Man lost the magic with its third film.
I can't think of any comic-inspired series that had a truly good second sequel. With all of others, changes to cast and crew could be used to some excuse, but everyone remained on board through the Spider-Man trilogy. Here's hoping that Nolan, Bale and team have two badass Batman sequels in them...
My movie experience, however, was one of the worst I've ever had. Two babies crying, trashy people yelling at the screen, talking on their cell phones, arrogant kids kicking my chair while their mother laughs after I ask them to stop. I even opted for the reserved, $16 a pop, seating. I think I'm done with the whole "movie experience". Time to invest in a better TV and a good sound system.
I thought he kind of went a bit 'emo' for a while there, like with his hair and stroppy mood swings and all that, then he turned into a complete wanker, I know it was a result of the venom simbiot, but do you guys think there was some kind of hidden message in there adressing emo kids? there definitly was a resemblence.
I think the addition of venom actually hurt the movie.
Ramimi, for spidey 4 shut off your net connection and you're back on track