Need help...

raphick

Hi everyone, it's been a long time I ain't posted here...
Actually, I've trained a lot since early December (especially at Hydravision Ent.)...

I decided, to continue my training, to make Dominic Purcell (Lincoln Burrows from Prison Break) but something obviously went wrong... And I can't figure out what!

Could you, with your wiser eyes, tell me or give me clues anyway?

Thanks a lot in advance...

Rick Stirling

Jawline

raphick

You mean the shape of the jaws or the beard?

Rick Stirling

That he has one -



He has a big square heid. The lips need to be closer to the nose than the chin.

JKMakowka

The back of his real head is one of the strangest I have seen, yours seems to be normal. So don't forget that character defining feature

raphick

Well I actually wanted to make him look like the sec. season of Prison Break...

... where he doesn't look like havin done XTC all night.


Anyway, I worked according your advices and also changed some figures I thought needed to :






- Made the jaws muscle bigger
- Modified the beard
- Added shade on the eyes areas
- Removed the little squint
- Made the tex borders match
- Modified NormalMap
- Added SpecMap

Still have to modify the back of the head, I'm looking for good photos/refs...

Could you C&C please?

THX...

EDIT : dammit I forgot to higher the lips...

fritz

head needs to be longer from top to bottom. if you look at the pic you provided of the actual guy....and the last shot of your model...i think you will see what i mean.

needs more chin

Sage

You need to get rid of the droopy sad face your model has. Part of it how short the forehead is and the shape of the eyebrows is way off. He looks like he is sad or a wimp. Make him look mean, by making the eyebrows straighter and curve down in a sharp fashion. Right now they seem to be curving up so he looks wimpy.

Alex

Rick Stirling

The lip position is still wrong - you need his lips to be closer to the nose, with a larger jaw.

raphick

Thank you all, guys... Guess I'm getting closer now...



This way?

StJoris

More more, in the picture you show you want, the distance, lip to chin is bigger than the distance lip to nose, by a fair bit.

snap.crackle.pop

Good work, but id be screaming like hell if my neck bone looked like that. Go fix this

Xaltar

Ok, heres a paintover that gets my crits across better






Keep at it

raphick

Thanks for your paintover Xaltar. Here is the mesh "in state", compared to before :


Still needs work but reaching the end... well I thing...

StJoris

Going ok, that paintover shows your direction, push it a little more i'd say

Xaltar

No problem, keep at it and try to focus on one feature at a time. Start with the forehead (which is looking closer already) then move down to the eyebrows (the dude's eyebrows and brow ridge are almost horisontal, yours are curved too much down on the outside).

Eyes need to be made larger but the outer edges should be in the same position and the indentation under the eyes is too large, push that crease up by about 50%. The nose in your latest rev is a little long and needs the bridge toward the tip narrowed and more defined. The jaw needs to be more rounded below the ears its too bulky as it is. The ears are about 2 thirds the size the need to be.


Dispite the bloody long list of crits its coming along very well. Keep it up

Oh and that skin color is not helping when it comes to reading your model, lighten it up a lot so you can see the features better until you are ready for final texturing