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Must have been Fred H, just incase Vitaliy was thinking of entering dom war 2
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LOL! CGChat sabotage!
I haven't had a blue screen of death in a long while... Last time I did, it was a hardware issue more than a windows issue.
Speaking of which, Microsoft set off a HUGE fireworks display in Seattle to celebrate the launch of Vista, for a minute there I was wondering what the hell was goin on because that was a BIG display!
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Lucky! I've been using Windows for something like eight years and I've never had a BSOD.
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Much as I love Windows and all... you do realize that makes you a god, right? Since Win 98 and no BSOD?!
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BSOD was pretty much the default desktop in 98 :P
Vista's pushed me over the linux switch breaking point, especially after reading this article. A very good read for anyone who isn't currently angry enough about Vista
You guys do realise xp just turned off bsod for most things, right?
Fresh out of the box, it just defaults to rebooting instead of bsod's.
Allthough you still get them with driver conflicts, i believe.
Xp's still a lot more stable than 98 though, in my experience.
XPerience!
One snip from the article: "Since there are currently no PCs for sale offering graphics chips that support HDCP"
I bought my card back in September of last year, and it's HDCP compliant (7950GX2). That article is way out of touch.
The guy also has a huge section, whining about drivers not working perfectly. The same exact thing happened with WinXP! I don't see why people are going all negative on Vista. It's seriously not as bad as people (and especially that article) make it out to be.
personally, it sucks a shitload of memory so it seems...BUT i have never used the system so i cant really tell, but at least for me i want to have full use of my memory, thats why i usually remove needless crap from xp visuals, etc and stuff that isnt running.
Well, I read the part about how drivers will cost more to develope because of new Windows requirements (passing the cost on to the consumer). I read the part about how the "tilt switches" are designed to cause subsystems to reboot. I read the part about Microsoft being able to disable drivers that have been "compromised". I did not read a part "whining about drivers not working perfectly".
I also read the part where he mentions that ATI and Nvidia both released graphics cards claiming to be HDCP compliant that in fact were not, so just because it says it on the box does not mean it is true.
So my point is that it seemed like you didn't read the article. You say you have, so that must mean you read it but didn't understand it.
Not that I agree with the paper. I read the Microsoft rebuttal and it made a lot of sense-- that Microsoft had to make these changes for HD content or not have it at all.
Much as I love Windows and all... you do realize that makes you a god, right? Since Win 98 and no BSOD?!
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Sorry, maybe my post was a bit misleading. My computer(s) has certainly frozen up on me over the years, but I can't remember ever seeing the BSOD. If things really start chugging I'll just restart manually. I've found Windows to be quite stable, anyways. It'll take some really serious problems to scare me away from the compatibility and ease-of-use that Win XP offers.
Not tried Vista yet, I'll probably wait until it's a little more mainstream.
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personally, it sucks a shitload of memory so it seems...
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Only the first couple of betas sucked down lots of memory. right now i'm running vista on my desktop and it's about the same (less sometimes) than when I run XP.
The part of that article about tilt bits just doesn't seem right to me. I've ran Vista on my laptop and desktop since RC1 and I have yet to experience a freeze or even a reboot in Aero. I have two USB hard drives, a USB printer, a USB mouse and keyboard, and I hotsync my phone to my computer all the time through USB. I accidentally kick my desktop and laptop all the time while they are running, sometimes even causing the hard drives to reboot. I live in a 30 year old house with the original wiring, and all I have between the computer and the wall is a $3 surge protector from Walmart.
I triple boot between SuSe Linux, XP Pro, and Vista Ultimate, and I end up booting into Vista 90% of the time. I'll only boot into Linux if I'm doing Java programming and XP if there's some old software I need to run. It's sexy and works good. And it makes me feel like I'm in The Minority Report when I use the fancy 3D windows.
I may sound like a Microsoft representative, but in reality I'm telling you this just to offset the amount of people that bash it without even trying it.
the wackiest thing about that article was the part where he sais vista will pretty much block access to hardware it deems unsecure, i dunno i always have some of the most current crap anyway so i doubt i'll have lots of problems with it, still don't think i'll be making a switch any time soon, just wait like 6 months or so for it to be totally integrated and just go all out 64 bit. btw is anyone running it in 64bit, is it still slower than win64 like it was in the beta?
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Lucky! I've been using Windows for something like eight years and I've never had a BSOD.
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Much as I love Windows and all... you do realize that makes you a god, right? Since Win 98 and no BSOD?!
I've been trying everything to get vista to crash, no such luck
Must have been Fred H, just incase Vitaliy was thinking of entering dom war 2
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LOL! CGChat sabotage!
I haven't had a blue screen of death in a long while... Last time I did, it was a hardware issue more than a windows issue.
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Lucky! I've been using Windows for something like eight years and I've never had a BSOD.
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Much as I love Windows and all... you do realize that makes you a god, right? Since Win 98 and no BSOD?!
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BSOD was pretty much the default desktop in 98 :P
Vista's pushed me over the linux switch breaking point, especially after reading this article. A very good read for anyone who isn't currently angry enough about Vista
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
Fresh out of the box, it just defaults to rebooting instead of bsod's.
Allthough you still get them with driver conflicts, i believe.
Xp's still a lot more stable than 98 though, in my experience.
XPerience!
I bought my card back in September of last year, and it's HDCP compliant (7950GX2). That article is way out of touch.
The guy also has a huge section, whining about drivers not working perfectly. The same exact thing happened with WinXP! I don't see why people are going all negative on Vista. It's seriously not as bad as people (and especially that article) make it out to be.
And I'm picking it apart, because a lot of it is crap.
Your point is?
wow penzer... i almost threw up a little in my mouth after reading that article.
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We're all wondering the same thing:
Did you spit or swallow?
Well, I read the part about how drivers will cost more to develope because of new Windows requirements (passing the cost on to the consumer). I read the part about how the "tilt switches" are designed to cause subsystems to reboot. I read the part about Microsoft being able to disable drivers that have been "compromised". I did not read a part "whining about drivers not working perfectly".
I also read the part where he mentions that ATI and Nvidia both released graphics cards claiming to be HDCP compliant that in fact were not, so just because it says it on the box does not mean it is true.
So my point is that it seemed like you didn't read the article. You say you have, so that must mean you read it but didn't understand it.
Not that I agree with the paper. I read the Microsoft rebuttal and it made a lot of sense-- that Microsoft had to make these changes for HD content or not have it at all.
Much as I love Windows and all... you do realize that makes you a god, right? Since Win 98 and no BSOD?!
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Sorry, maybe my post was a bit misleading. My computer(s) has certainly frozen up on me over the years, but I can't remember ever seeing the BSOD. If things really start chugging I'll just restart manually. I've found Windows to be quite stable, anyways. It'll take some really serious problems to scare me away from the compatibility and ease-of-use that Win XP offers.
Not tried Vista yet, I'll probably wait until it's a little more mainstream.
personally, it sucks a shitload of memory so it seems...
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Only the first couple of betas sucked down lots of memory. right now i'm running vista on my desktop and it's about the same (less sometimes) than when I run XP.
The part of that article about tilt bits just doesn't seem right to me. I've ran Vista on my laptop and desktop since RC1 and I have yet to experience a freeze or even a reboot in Aero. I have two USB hard drives, a USB printer, a USB mouse and keyboard, and I hotsync my phone to my computer all the time through USB. I accidentally kick my desktop and laptop all the time while they are running, sometimes even causing the hard drives to reboot. I live in a 30 year old house with the original wiring, and all I have between the computer and the wall is a $3 surge protector from Walmart.
I triple boot between SuSe Linux, XP Pro, and Vista Ultimate, and I end up booting into Vista 90% of the time. I'll only boot into Linux if I'm doing Java programming and XP if there's some old software I need to run. It's sexy and works good. And it makes me feel like I'm in The Minority Report when I use the fancy 3D windows.
I may sound like a Microsoft representative, but in reality I'm telling you this just to offset the amount of people that bash it without even trying it.
whatever next!