But not for too long:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16614865/
I can't quite believe the stupidity of the organizers. Maybe there's more awareness about this in the UK, 'cos i distinctly recall this being a big issue from a bunch of kids dying from water intoxication as a result of taking ecstacy. Either way, this is a pretty sad way to go.
I wonder If the organizers posthumously gave her kids the wii? /sorry, couldn't resist.
Replies
Tragic, but freakin strange.
http://chemistry.about.com/cs/5/f/blwaterintox.htm
That's the web address I went to, to find more info on water intoxication. Kinda technical, but if you want to know more about it, there it is.
Very sad.
Shit - it's difficult to be hard-assed about this, especially when she had kids..
KDND 107.9 - Obviously a quality outfit..
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_23_16/ai_62896473
I remember reading about water overdose back when I used to hike a bunch--it's REALLY hard to pull off...I think it only happens in situations like that link or when drill sergeants are stupid and push their underlings to camel up too much.
[/ QUOTE ]
I nearly managed to pull it off when I was in the Army Guard. We were training in Louisiana and it was incredibly hot. In my determination not to get dehydrated or heat stroke, I drank way too much water. I started feeling sick to my stomach and had a headache. Fortunately we had medics there to take me away in an FMV and give me an IV. A little while later I remember vomiting up what seemed like gallons of water and a little while after that I took the longest piss in my entire life. Fun stuff.
"Hey these 3 have no kids, let's kill 'em all!"
Does her being a mother make any difference to the fact she is dead?
"Hey these 3 have no kids, let's kill 'em all!"
[/ QUOTE ]
no, but it makes it worse that her children will growup without a mom because she entered a contest to win them a wii... i would feel bad atleast.
Does her being a mother make any difference to the fact she is dead?
[/ QUOTE ]
Yew're gawddamn right it does. In 'Merica we RESPECT motherhood. Yew've got a lot t' larn, yew an' yer foreign ways.
Naw, doesn't make it any worse.
[/ QUOTE ]
Rick, normally I think you're a swell guy and an all-around insightful individual. Alas.
Oh come on, it's saying that her life had more value simply because she had given birth.
[/ QUOTE ]
exactly, how would you feel if your mom died when you were that young (my apologies if she did).
Oh come on, it's saying that her life had more value simply because she had given birth.
[/ QUOTE ]
I don't think it's saying that at all Rick, but this is clearly open to perspective. All people are really saying is that it's a *particular* shame that she was a mother, since 3 kids are now orphans (or at the least, motherless).
Oh come on, it's saying that her life had more value simply because she had given birth.
[/ QUOTE ]
I don't think anyone is assigning more value to her life because she squirted out a few kids. I think people are recognizing that her death doesn't impact just her, it also impacts those who where dependent on her for food shelter and guidance. Her life wasn't worth more than anyone else's. It is tragic that there are kids that won't have a mom. Well at least until daddy gets a new mommy next week, gotta love merica!
Well, my partner has no kids - would it be less of a tragedy if she died? That's the point.
[/ QUOTE ]
No less of a tragedy at all, but you might be better equipped emotionally to deal with your grief. It's very subjective of course, but as a parent, yes, it made more of an impact on me..
Well, my partner has no kids - would it be less of a tragedy if she died? That's the point.
[/ QUOTE ]
Its relative, to you it would mean a hell of a lot (at least I would hope so) to a some mom somewhere the story about 3 kids would be more tragic to her because she empathizes with that situation more than yours, that doesn't make it less tragic for you however. See how it is relative?
So it would mean the same to you if your partner and a complete stranger died in a car wreck? The story is made more tragic by the fact that she had people who depended on her.
Would you be just as cold if her dependents where 98 years old and couldn't dress themselves? The more lives that are effected by a persons death the more tragic it becomes. Thats the worlds scale and math. Lets test it out:
If your partner dies it effects you, which is more tragic than if some who has no family no friends and lives on an island, alone, dies.
Think of tragedy as a meter and what gets you points on the meter is how many people give a sh!t about you. 3 kids = 3 points. To use ninjas example of Ted Bundy, that guy racked up negative points. I wouldn't say the tragedy scale effects the value of someones life, people are valuable for different reasons. Even horrible people serve as reminders of what to watch for & how to deal with them. That alone places a value on their lives, not enough to pull them out of the tragic hole they dug but it could be more valuable than 100 crack heads that get jacked up and die, giving nothing and taking nothing.
Oh come on, it's saying that her life had more value simply because she had given birth.
[/ QUOTE ]
You're having a go at me, right?
I think it's very important that we all make sure everyone knows how much one is supposed to care about things. If people didn't take the time to relay such crucial data, how could we possibly think correctly?
[/ QUOTE ]
It is interesting to see how someone with a uncalibrated moral compass responds when someone lays it out clearly. It's less surprising when people respond with sarcasm, but often more entertaining. What would we do if we didn't have people who take the comfortable sarcastic middle ground? Who knows we might have an interesting conversation...
I think it's very important that we all make sure everyone knows how much one is supposed to care about things. If people didn't take the time to relay such crucial data, how could we possibly think correctly?
[/ QUOTE ]
I think it's a little too objective to make sure everyone's care and empathy/sympathy is measured for each category we can think of. I like the idea of everyone having different values and "incorrect" thinking because without that, we wouldn't have conflict, and without conflict we'd all agree with Rick (and wouldn't have this long of a thread).
Marcus Dublin
Artist - Kaos Studios
i don't mean to bringup an old topic, but here is an audio recording of them on the radio joking about death by water during the contest.
[/ QUOTE ]
I wonder if they will be slapped with a wrongful death lawsuit, charged, etc...
I sincerely hope they feel absolutely awful.
Water drinking contests should've been illegal by now...
If i knew how to type the characters for a shifty-eyed emoticon, i would.