WIP: Back to old subjects...

DarthRevanII

I've been gone from polycount for a while, but I'm definitely coming back, hopefully to update frequently with stuff im making

So, This is probably the third time I've modeled this guy, and it's by far a very severe improvement. For those of you who don't know, this is the Brotherhood of NOD's light infantry from C&C Tiberian Sun
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6144 pollies at the moment...still gotta tweak some things and finish as well (exe: feet, backs of some straps, pistol holster on the right thigh, etc etc). I'm also going to re-do the shin armor because i don't like how it looks at all

Crits and Comments are more than welcome, I'd actually like to know what you think of it

Wires will be posted later
Oh and I used my friend Havoc89's model as a reference (front side and back renders)

DarthRevanII

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Wires
Haven't had a chance to optimize the model, so im going to work on that once i finish it...Also realized the top is kinda poly heavy. Granted there is more armor pieces and such on his upper torso, but idk...think its too top heavy?

messing around with the lens effect-glow feature
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/SpartnII/Glow.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/SpartnII/Glow2.jpg

Electro

Hey cool good to see you back!

The top is a little poly heavy, but then again it's the part with the most curvature really. You could probably get rid of a couple of the edgeloops on the helmet towards the center where it becomes flat.

How about making the shoulders a little more broader? Seems a little squished now but that might just be me.

I want to see cool boots!

I'm loving this work though, nice and clean as usual, keep it up!
Also, I like glow2 better than glow.

Thegodzero

dark helmet?

DarthRevanII

Zero, you goofball :P...good to see you again, sir

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Hey cool good to see you back!

The top is a little poly heavy, but then again it's the part with the most curvature really. You could probably get rid of a couple of the edgeloops on the helmet towards the center where it becomes flat.

How about making the shoulders a little more broader? Seems a little squished now but that might just be me.

I want to see cool boots!

I'm loving this work though, nice and clean as usual, keep it up!
Also, I like glow2 better than glow.

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Thanks for the crits and comments,I'll definitely keep it up
I agree about the edgeloops on the helmet, thats one thing i planned on fixing. Once I optimize it I'm going to focus on taking pollies out of the top half, because as you said, although it's where most of the curvature is, it's significantly higher than the rest of the body, and it bothers me
Not sure if I agree about the shoulders needing to be broader, but I'll definitely mess with that when I get home tonight and see if it makes a difference (I'll upload a pic after I do that) and I'll let you tell me what you think.

don't worry, feet will be made soon

rooster

I love the overal design and details, something about the proportions though is making me think adolescent/teenager rather than fully grown man

DarthRevanII

Aaah...Rooster if you can pinpoint it PLEASE let me know...I've felt something was wrong with it for a bit

I first noticed it as I got the thighs on him (was using an recent player model as a refernce for the legs). They looked too short when I first got them on so i had to lengthen them.

I think the problem stems from the length of the torso and legs, but i don't quite know which, or if both are wrong, and what I need to do about it

rooster

I reckon you should finish off the feet, then mess about with some screengrabs in photoshop to try some different things out- that might be the quickest/easiest way to test the possibilities

DarthRevanII

good call, ill do that when i get home from class (i hate introduction to computers, biggest waste ever)

ill upload it in a bit

DarthRevanII

Heres the update...model is basically complete...gotta go back and optimize it...also don't really like how the gun holster looks...i did't want to waste pollies on it and eh...looks too boxy

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does he still look teenager...ish?

steady

lookin really good, glad to see you postin again! welcome back

Thegodzero

Good to see you posting again buddy, id beef up the thickness of the arms and shrink the head size. Also move the head back.

didn't do the arms but did the rest.
head is 95% its size and another 95% its width.

DarthRevanII

well the help of Zero on AIM he helped me fix a few things...not really much of an update...smaller head, new arm position (more natural), new gun pouch, new polycount (6172 from the original 6900)

I'm tired and didn't make the wires with new renders, but here is this

rooster

definately looking cool man- I had a quick fiddle in ps, see what you reckon- I don't claim to be an expert in this department but I tried to make him feel a bit more powerful.

I lengthend the legs a bit, lowered the arms slightly, raised the head a little and thinned it a tiny bit, and thickened the body slightly-
suggestion-
http://www.redprodukt.com/post/suggestion.jpg

DarthRevanII

thanks Rooster!...some of the things you did actually do make it look better...I might try and lower the arms and maybe lengthen his legs...I'll try and bring his head up a tiny bit, but in yours it looks too high

also guess I should bring the chest armor up a bit too

thanks for the paintover!

DarthRevanII

took a break from this guy for a sec and decided to make something else that's NOD, what do you think?

D4V1DC

Nice ship & im liking the NOD trooper.

DarthRevanII

another update...the NOD Harpy
crits?

madman

good stuff, i like the "marine", maybe just bottom parts of the armor should be more massive, like a helmet and ruckzack

DarthRevanII

thanks, appreciate that
but whats a ruczack?

rollin

realy like the technical stuff here . especially the copter

on the human model: i think the lower legs lack a bit of a straigter and more "creativ" design.. the upper legs are ok but could be a bit more thicker .. atm the upper body seems a bit too heavy for the feets

btw.. ruckzack (?) should mean rucksack (i guess) an thats what he carries on his back

madman

rollin- indeed ^^ my mistake

DarthRevanII

I would just like to update saying that right now, i am druuuunk

more crits please? would be appreciatedd

Goober

Biggest crit is it's hard to see some of this stuff, very low contrast against the black background. I really like the forms on the chopper and other vehicle though, great sense of mass going into them, feel really solid. I feel like the soliders hips aren't wide enough or something, they seem to be bending outwards at the wrong point on the pelvis, anyone else see that?

DarthRevanII

thanks Goober, appreciate the hard critique on certain items as well as comments

I think I see what you mean about his pelvic area...if I see it right, you're saying his pelvis is kinda, too "small?" as in I need to bring the sides of his hips up more?

thanks for the comments about the vehicles,
And I'll be sure to use grey backgrounds for the rest of my updates, and if need-be, change out the old renders with new one on grey ones for ya