Gordon Freeman

Armanguy

Hey guys im used to making level art but id like to learn how to do character art so i started this new side project:



i need alot of help as you can see he does not look like gordon freeman at all! lol so can you guys help me in discovering how i can make this look better any paintovers would be much appreciated.

Refs:
http://media.g4tv.com/images/imagedb2/248/24821_L.jpg
http://domainer.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/halflife_2.jpg
http://massdestraction.com/images/photoalbum/5594.jpg
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Image:Gordon_Freeman.jpg

Mark Dygert

Doesn't look like Gordon because Gordon has the lower part of his head hehehe. All kidding aside I think you pimped to early and there isn't enough to actually crit on yet. 90% of what makes Gordon himself are the glasses and the goatee. Get those in there and you'll be doing a lot better.

Armanguy

hahaha i was thinking the same thing, i was just wondering how would i model the hiar?as you can see i just extruded it and welded the uneed verts.

edit:

lol love your paintover :P

Rick Stirling

Vig drew David Baddiel

Armanguy

Well i did a little more work on this bad boy:



hopefully you guys can crit now but im off to work hopefully theres some crits when i get back from work

Again paintovers are welcome.

notman

Looks a bit more like Hank Hill right now.
What looks odd to me right now are the cheek bones. The chin may also be too long unless you're including the goatie already.
What are you using as a reference?

Armanguy

top of the page ill look into the problems thanks for the crit .

Armanguy

update:

Jaco

Much better. Try getting rid of all those edges running from the jaw and into his neck. And the back of the head needs some of those edges your'e cancelling on the front of the face.

notman

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lol, doh... missed that

Armanguy

Just a quick paintover:

silence

Freeman has an afro?

fmnoor

During his college days of course.

Armanguy

how does that look like an afro lol

Ruz

actually he looks like rolf harris in the paintover:)

really I think you ned to look at some edge loop tutorials. yours just seem to be placed randomly and without a great deal of thought to where the polys are actually needed.
looks rather untidy overall

SHEPEIRO

some of the best paintovers ive ever seen!

Mark Dygert

I have to agree with Ruz. It reminds me of the way I did faces by slicing, hacking, and cutting my way along, its not "wrong" because it is an important skill to have and will teach you much as you hack and slice. It just isn't as efficent with your time as using edge loops. Also if you keep your loops clean and don't cut them up too badly you can use the loop select tool turn your high poly model into low poly pretty quickly without effecting your UV layout. Having a cleaner mesh also helps if you start using the model for Sub D work

Some tutorials that will help

Basic idea behind edge loops, not so much a step by step.
http://67.15.36.49/team/Tutorials/edge_loops/edge_loops_01.asp

NURBS modeling a head, trickier to work with, I personally don't build this way but some do. A pretty good step by step.
http://www.animationartist.com/2001/02_feb/tutorials/NURMS1.html

Poly by Poly using splines as guides. This is close to what you are doing now, but actaully keeps you thinking about the edge loops and where they are going.
http://www.3dluvr.com/content/article/137/1

Also Max has some pretty good tutorials build in, Help > Tutorials > Search for "modeling head NURBS" which is a less verbose version of the NURBS tutorail above.

This one is really good, covers a lot, he uses Maya but the tutorial info more or less works for max.
http://www.thehobbitguy.com/tutorials/polymodeling/index.html