how's the salary for artists??
in general, how much can you make as an artist...let's say a modeller..and a concept artist.
is it more depending on how well a game sells (for the royalty)
is it more depending on how well a game sells (for the royalty)
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*edit* I just realized you were asking about a 100 or 200 person sized company, not thousands of dollars. Well I hope my response helps anyways.
if experience is related, how much more do you earn if you are a senior artist?
anyone correct me if im wrong please.
And specifically this: http://www.rsart.co.uk/mediawiki/index.php?title=How_much_should_I_be_earning
Your first gig take what you can get borrow money, stay at a friends, whatever you need to do to make it work. After that you'll do fine.
In other other words worry about getting good enough to get hired, and once your there youl probaly be hired. If not then start to worry about getting hired and how much you should be asking for.
The reason i transirtioned out of art and into tools production was $$.
-R
It's 2003, but should give you a general idea.
I'd say on average most ADs make around 95k, plus possible bonuses/stock/premium health coverage/etc., which all combine to raise it up a few notches. At that point, it isn't just the salary.
bonuses can make quite a difference. seems there are studios where bonuses account for a larger sum of money in your entire annual pay than your standard wage. nice
just heard the story about a studio where employees received bonuses worth of 8 - 9 annual wages in a single year. genre-defining title though.
I never assumed that my first job or salary would be remotely what I'd want for more than 6 months. Now I'm really happy where I'm at. I'd be fine here till I die.
Atleast thats how i think it looks atm. More money= less art and more answering emails
The way I see it, if I want more money, I'll stop working for someone else and start my own business, or go freelance, or move into a different market altogether.
Ultimately a game art career is going to be a trade-off, unless you're really good at marketing yourself, and have some good luck.
I make enough to support myself and my family comfortably, and still have a job I look forward to every day. Now, I wish I could afford a state-of-the-art high-end home theater projection system with a raid movie server, but hey other things are a bit more important.
You won't go hungry, at least not after you get past the internship.
For me I love what I am doing and would gladly give up some extra cash to keep doing it. Besides its not like I can't do some contract work on the side and pull in a little extra.
gotta say though i still love the art side of it, I am an eternal grunt.
suppose to earn bigger bucks then you have to become a manager , but the downside is the endless meetings
but i think that as a gamer since i was 11, and a person that loves art and storytelling, i will be happy working in this industry (i would love the animation industry too if it isn't so full of kiddie and pre school shows).
also, how should I behave and what should I be asking on a phone interview? the company likes my stuff and is giving me a phone interview.
these people interviewing you are normal people. definately tell them the good things. that's why you're there. they want to be convinced to hire you. definately tell them your good qualities. be real. you don't have to gush about yourself, tell them logical good points to why you would help their team.
if you are what they are looking for talent wise, they want you to be on the team as much as you want to work for them. the fact you have an interview shows that have an interest in you. they are just trying to get to know ya and make sure the rest of the team digs ya. and if it doesn't work out, this won't be your only interview; there are other companies. it was probably for the better. you can only get better from here. in the meantime, keep rocking your work.
not only tell them logical information about yourself, but ask questions about them to decide if you want to work for them or not. you should be more concerned about them. do you want to work with them? can you work with them? what would a regular day of work at their studio be like? are they as pumped about games as you are? etc.
also, do you think I will be tested? I mean I have already taken one.
Experience
1 year or less: 35-40k
2 years: 45-50k
3 years: 50-60k
4 years: 60-80k
5 years: 65-90k
6 years: 65-90k
It starts to cap out if you don't keep advancing. But, I think you have a greater chance after 6 years to get a much sweeter deal. Some startup that has vc money is bonkers for anyone with 10 years, paying 150k with bonuses, etc.
Leech I don't know too many places that would shell out anual raises of 10k, but it does make sense that you can come close to demanding those numbers if you jump around. Sticking in the same place is never a great way to make bank, you normally just get tiny increases unless you shift positions or jobs.
If I wanted peanuts I would still be a monkey
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Hehe I like that one.
Personally I am on a quest to create balance between straight up grunt work and some of the extra managerial/business duties. Though still in the early stages
I don't know of many people who pull down triple figure salaries doing purely art for games in general. It is possible but a sacrifice of sanity would be on the cards due to the hours involved in achieving this. If you are chasing more money then work smarter not harder.
RSI has been fairly rare among people I've worked with. I've never had it. It can happen tho, now they have warnings pasted on every new keyboard. Just get yourself comfortable, pay attention to what your body is telling you, etc.
Only after they mention salary should you start negotiating, generally you should never start talking about it yourself (unless they actually say you're hired but never mention the compensation).
If the amount is low, I would tell them you've heard X amount is the usual starting pay for someone with your talent level. Get that amount from a quotable source (in case they ask where you pulled that number from), like the Gamasutra salary survey. Gamasutra breaks it down by region, so that should factor in.
You should know in advance how important this first job is to you, how low you'll go before declining. If they're desperate enough, they may increase their offer, even after you decline.
Often though if you name a price, they'll go halfway or lower. For the first job, I'd just accept their 2nd offer and take the job.
Oh, forgot to mention, usually if you're polite and professional about the request, they'll actually think better of you because it shows you regard your work as valuable.