Ogre(?), needs advice and critics, please...

conte

I've done body in mudbox and baked normal maps already mesh is under 7k, but i have no idea what i need to do right now. clothes/armor or something else.
Please, tell me what u think...
My last idea was to do him gladiator.

There is no diffuse, just normal map~ 1024:







P.S: J.I. Styles's shader is the best of the best.

aesir

First off, you dont need 7k for a body which is as relatively simple as that one. See if you can lower it to somewhere between 3k and 4k.
Secondly, what do you want to do with it? Do you want to add clothes and armour? Leave him naked? Just stop on the piece as it is? If you want to go the minimilalist approach, then just add a loin cloth and a diffuse map and call it done.

edit: forgot to say, it looks great!

almighty_gir

he needs a penis, with which to rape and pillage.

Thegodzero

id say get rid of the toes on the low poly. People dont look too hard at feet to justify that many polys on the feet. Maybe leave the big toe as its own but at a much lower poly. Also thinken up the fingers, they look human and frail not like id expect from something that wants to beat me over the head with a rock then eat me. Id say 5k sounds about rite for him, and 7k with his clothes and gear.

oh and try uping the saturation on the norm to pump up the stenght of the details.

conte

Thx for replies. I have no polycount limit.
still no ideas.

ebagg

Well, post wires and we could help with the poly count! Lookin great dude, I love the vestigial tail!

torncanvas

Nice. My only crit is that a lot of the muscle work is just a little too high-frequency instead of medium frequency. By that I mean that the muscles suggested by your sculpting are a little too shallow, so it looks like muscles are kinda scratched in. Instead, they should look more pillowy and three-dimensional. I'd recommend dropping a couple division levels and define the form at a lower level a little more. Know what I mean? Again, I don't think it needs to be done that much, just a little.

Depending on the quality of animation you want with him, 7k might be just right or even too low. Guys, let's not forget that you have to add extra polys for smooth deformations. I agree that the wires will say what needs to be done if anything. You never really mentioned the purpose of this guy either, so judgments on poly count should be reserved.

Daz

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My only crit is that a lot of the muscle work is just a little too high-frequency instead of medium frequency. By that I mean that the muscles suggested by your sculpting are a little too shallow

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You totally took the words outta my mouth torncanvas. I was gonna say exactly that. There is no depth to any of the musculature, it's all on the surface. Other than that he looks cool!

Thegodzero

ashat to fix what daz and torncanvas are saying the easy way out would be drop to a lower resolution mesh that doesnt have the smaller skin details and just has the musculature and export that and then use this as an overlay to keep those details but to further push the major details.
Otherwise use blur in photoshop untill the only the major details show and up the saturation to make them even deeper. then drop the old map over that one on overlay.

conte

hmm, guys=) i am trying to understand what u all mean.
As i understand that sounds like i dind't pushed muscle mass. but there is no bodybuilders ogres i think?
I show wire:


Here is 5942 tris right now? that's ok?
big thanx for replies, buddies.

Tulkamir

Right now, while he's looking good, I think you could push the deffinition of the mesh more. It seems like all of the deffinition you currently have is comming from the normal map, so it would be a good idea to make better use of the polygons you have and make his silouhuette more interesting.

b1ll

not, what they mean is that the muscle have no volume, U have the form, but no definition, they feel flat.

ben

JKMakowka

Its crotch/hip are ist too short vertically (just look at his belly button which is in the right position relative to the upper torso, but way to close to the lower).
Of course this visual appearance is even stronger due to the lack of a penis, but it isn't solely because of this, I think.

Oh and a minor nitpic... if it is supposed to stay bald then I would add more detail to the back of his skull, because it isn't (contrary to common believe of most modelers) just a round sphere

Penzer

I would suggest putting some more thought to your hands and feet. Your hands look very very soft and smooth skinned, especially for an ogre no less. The toes on the feet look too seperated. If you look at your own feet, the only distinguishable gap is between your big toe and your, uhhh, index toe....

stoofoo

ashat just go down a couple subdivisions and really press some of the forms youve made in. I know you know how to do it, so just do it already. Chump. =P

Toomas

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As i understand that sounds like i dind't pushed muscle mass. but there is no bodybuilders ogres i think?


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Yet you gave him bodybuilder type muscles...
For comaprison, this is how a very strong man looks like ie. all go no show.