arabs arrested for buying too many cellphones....
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linK: http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/13/news/cell.php
So... lets see here. Apparently the cops found some arab dudes with a thousand cell phones in their car, so, they arrested them for trying to blow up a bridge. yea...
Now, it may be true that you can use a cellphone as a detonator, but you only really need one... so maybe they were gonna plant a thousand bombs on the bridge and then call each cell phone one after another to detonate their bombs. Might take a while. A radio transmission would be better for setting off a ton of bombs simultaneously.
So, whose expecting a lawsuit at the end of this?
So... lets see here. Apparently the cops found some arab dudes with a thousand cell phones in their car, so, they arrested them for trying to blow up a bridge. yea...
Now, it may be true that you can use a cellphone as a detonator, but you only really need one... so maybe they were gonna plant a thousand bombs on the bridge and then call each cell phone one after another to detonate their bombs. Might take a while. A radio transmission would be better for setting off a ton of bombs simultaneously.
So, whose expecting a lawsuit at the end of this?
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the law has made dumb mistakes before,, really nothing nothing new, but of course if 2 hours later a bridge blew up and then people found out that these guys were stopped and then released, people would be "why the hell did they not check into someone having a thousand cell phones!!"
no ones ever perfect, and quiet often they are dumb
best thing would be to lock this shit up, the majority of us read news websites I'm guessing.
but hawken... really... that jab was kinda pointless
The sister said that they were just selling cell phones, but I don't think there is anything wrong with what the police are doing. Just as Rhinokey suggested, if you don't do anything, and something happens, then there is hell to pay.
For those who aren't aware, one of the highest concentrations of middle-eastern citizens in the US, are here in Dearborn Michigan. There has been many connections to money and terrorist activities from this area. Obviously this doesn't mean you should arrest everyone, but I do think caution is warrented.
So basically our now police state goverment can and will arrest anyone they think has even the slightest bit of suspicion regardless if they have hard evidence or not . Sort of like a city policeman arresting a black guy standing on a corner " Oh he must be selling drugs " . This is going to get way out of control real fast .
Great idea, let's do some preemptive strikes against terror. Who needs evidence when a hunch is enough? Let's start with arresting all those who disagree with the government, the troublemakers are going to be among them. Something bad could happen if we don't do that!
Now, it may be true that you can use a cellphone as a detonator, but you only really need one... so maybe they were gonna plant a thousand bombs on the bridge and then call each cell phone one after another to detonate their bombs. Might take a while.
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Techincally if you can turn a cell phone into a detenator, you might be smart enough to clone 1,000 phones so they all go off at the same time.
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So, whose expecting a lawsuit at the end of this?
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Again, I have no problems with them arresting them to question them further... should they be imprisoned? Probably not longer than it takes to question them, unless more is discovered.
heh, my bad. I'll re-edit my post.
but hawken... really... that jab was kinda pointless
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point was to show that sloppiness can be reflected in ones communication.
I think the next time I see someone DRIVING with a cell phone glued to their ear, I am calling Homeland Security!
Problem solv-ed
I have no problem with this.
I think the next time I see someone DRIVING with a cell phone glued to their ear, I am calling Homeland Security!
Problem solv-ed
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haha, i should have thought of that when i saw a guy riding on his motorcycle talking with cell phone in hand. O.O
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I have no problem with this.
I think the next time I see someone DRIVING with a cell phone glued to their ear, I am calling Homeland Security!
Problem solv-ed
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haha, i should have thought of that when i saw a guy riding on his motorcycle talking with cell phone in hand. O.O
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Actually snemmy, I think that one might end up solving itself through natural selection.
It's a hell of a lot more than just a "technicality." These men weren't just brought in for questioning, they were charged with a CRIME. Think about that for a second... they where charged with a crime because they had a bunch of phones and a photograph. That's what this discussion is about, not about whether or not they should have been suspects brought in for questioning.
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I know what you're saying... I sort of strayed from the original topic while defending my statement to McIlroy. That's where I was coming from about the detaining/arresting. I meant detaining in reference to the profiling, not necessarily to this case.
I was also given further info in this morning's news. Supposedly they had airport security manuals also. At this point I don't know how much is news myth though. I did hear they were release and the charges were dropped now, as I suspected would happen.
Of course it's easy to be an armchair quarterback and say, "they should have done this", or "should have done that" from the safety of your computer in what you perceive to be a somewhat safe haven. Question everything right? Of course, we should question it, but do it with an open mind.
People, (especially younger people) are eager to criticize "profiling". Well too fucking bad. Who is trying to blow up airplanes and strapping bombs to themselves in public places to target innocent civilians? It surely isn't some 80 year old woman from Pennsylvania, and it isn't the black homeless crack addict on the streets of New York, and it's not some white redneck from Texas(well usually not), it's YOUNG MIDDLE EASTERN MEN(and more women lately). Sure it sucks totally innocent people get caught in the crossfire, but people, we have little choice!
Now you can go on blaming the U.S and British goverment for whatever you wish, but get one thing straight - none of this would be happening if not for 21 Muslim Extremests hijacking three jetliners and crashing them into buildings on U.S. soil and killing thousands of innocent people. If you are angry with anything, you should be angry with them for igniting this age of paranoia.
People, (especially younger people) are eager to criticize "profiling". Well too fucking bad.
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Racial/ethnic profiling is never a good solution or basis for acting because it prevents integration. Certainly young arab men are behind a lot of the current plots (at least, the publicized ones), but if we make that demographic a target for all suspicions, accusations, and scrutiny, do you honestly think that's the best way to stop MORE crimes from those people themselves?
...yeah and even more angry to know that the usa didnt seem to have done nothing to prevent/stop it.
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So you are angrier at the US government because they did not stop 9/11, than at Al Quaeda themselves? That makes little sense to me.
edit : might be a syntax problem , this is a stupid way to show but i cant explain better : we were 100% pissed thanks to the attackes, but like + 50% ( 150% ) pissed because of tht.
...yeah and even more angry to know that the usa didnt seem to have done nothing to prevent/stop it.
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Hindsight is great isn't it?
I wish I could send a message back in time and tell myself that two planes will slam into a pair of sky scrapers and it won't be because of mechanical failure. I bet I would just pass it over and keep going on with my life.
Knowing what I know now, that piece of paper could save millions, but honestly I would have thought you where nuts until 9/11. It's funny how we expect recent events to change the way we thought about things before those events happened. I would like to think the goverment was as paranoid as it is now about terrorist attacks, but it wasn't.
As for racial profiling the practice itself is flawed,you dont look towards people we dont expect you could miss a chance to stop an attack. Oklahoma definatly is a good example of that,people thought arabs, instead it was a few white guys. Not to mention all the other places which has people not exactly too friendly to the Usa like in South America for instance.
Johny i get where your coming from and i agree,im pissed with the 9/11 people who began this shit but pissed as well at Bush and co for not doing anything to stop it. Like the Cia report "Osama Bin Ladin determined to strike the Us" which was ignored and the Fbi whistleblower who tried to tell them Mousarris suspicious enrollment in flight school.
Thats why im so damn agaisnt giving up personal freedoms to fight terror,dont ask for more damn powers if you didnt use the ones you had in the first place.