Yup. Updated graphics like in the video, and no pre-rendered cinematics. As the game deserves to be played. I was too young to appreciate FFVII when it originally came out, so I'd definitely pick this up (if it's real.)
I hope they do make it into a game. I'd buy a PS3 for this game alone. FFVII was amazing on so many levels. It was the game that got me into RPGs, and I'm still hooked to this day.
And your point is?
$600 for a BluRay player ALONE is worth it. But the PS3 plays games, has media-center capability, and can read like 20 differant media formats.
Keep in mind that the cheapest BluRay player is $1000. And there's no reason to believe a player will ship by PS3's launch, which will be less than $600.
And yes, Final Fantasy is worth it.
I'm sure a lot of people read the LOTR trilogy and watched the original king king and went ahead and saw the newly released remakes of these movies anyway (not to menton buying the dvd's too)
I bought a ps1 just so i could play FF7 so i might buy a ps3 for the same thing
And your point is?
$600 for a BluRay player ALONE is worth it.
If you have an HDTV, you like paying premium prices for playback hardware and Bluray gets decent movie support instead of being kicked out of the market by HDDVD or lack of consumer interest in high-priced HD movies that is.
Yeah, 1000 dollar players will catch on real quick. I'm going to really regret not spending 600 dollars to get on that right at the start, considering everything's going to switch over to it instantly.
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600 dollar console + 60 dollar game for a million random encounters with better graphics and a story that everyone has already played?
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Man, I just spent $3500 today on a new HD TV because I decided my old HD TV wasn't uber enough. $700 for a blu-ray DVD player and FF7 Special Edition is something I wouldn't think twice about. I'm one of the guys that Cochtl mentioned, I literally bought my PS1 the day FF7 came out. Yeah, the story isn't all that and a bag o' chips, but damned if that wasn't one of the most exciting gaming experiences I've ever had.
Incidentally, I am 100% sure this game is being made. It has to be, there's no way Square Enix doesn't know how crazy people are for the game. Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, the so-called 'tech demo'... It's been nine years and fans are still into the FF7 world. A remake of that game a license to print money, a game that literally sells the console, and Sony isn't gonna let that pass. (The only classic remake that could get me more geeked out is if Nintendo announced a 20th anniversary revival of Kid Icarus. I'd stomp on a sack of kittens if I got to play Kid Icarus on the Wii )
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$600 for a BluRay player ALONE is worth it.
If you have an HDTV, you like paying premium prices for playback hardware and Bluray gets decent movie support instead of being kicked out of the market by HDDVD or lack of consumer interest in high-priced HD movies that is.
Well all broadcasts in the U.S are going to be digital & HD by 2009. So if you want to watch TV at all, you'll need an HDTV.
And honestly, they aren't that expensive anymore. You can get an amazing DLP set in the $1500-2000 range. If you want to get plasma or LCD, that's where the price skyrockets.
I'd wait until next year to buy a new set though, when Toshiba's SED technology hits the market. Plasma-thin monitors with CRT quality color & black levels, with a whopping 100,000:1 contrast ratio (or more, depending on the set).
I don't think that BluRay will fail though. DVD's were far from common when the PS2 came out. Because it functioned as a DVD played AND a game player, DVD sales skyrocketed (especially in Japan).
I think that same thing will happen with the PS3. Sony has a lot of big name support for the format, and it will be the cheapest player of it's kind. I think it's a good way to usher the format in.
Look at what happened with hard drives. When I got my first PC in 1998, it had a 5Gb hard drive. They said that's all I'd ever need. Now they have drives that are over 1TB in size. There's always a need for more storage, and requirements will always grow. The fact that BluRay holds more data will help it out in the end.
Eh? I was talking about HD signals, not digital upscaling.
By 2009 everything needs to be digital instead of analog. I was saying it should be one step further, and require 100% HD signals only.
Their is already legislation being discussed about mandatory HD after 2009, and to ease your mind it has stiff requirements. Content providers will NOT be able to down-res HD signals to anyone, and only real HD content is to be displayed (no upscaling). Keep in mind though, that the only 'HD Standard' is 720p. So it's not a gargantuan jump in visuals like 1080i or 1080p is.
Not all source material is HD so if they were to show an older movie or such they'd be forced to upscale the signal before sending. Or would they just outlaw old movies?
Also content providers are slow to adopt HD because it requires 4-7 times (720p and 1080i, presumably) as much bandwidth as a normal station. Unless the maximum bandwidth greatly exceeds the bandwidth used today that would mean a lot of stations would have to be dropped to make room for others.
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Ah yes, yes, my bad. It is only a digital mandate, not HD.
My hope is that they do end up enforcing HD signals, though.
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Right, so all the poor people who can't afford HDTVs can't watch TV! What about the people who are satisfied with SD? I guarantee you my grandma doesn't give a damn if Oprah is in high definition or not. I will tell you however, that she doesn't want to spend about 800 bucks to replace her mediocre sized TV.
Yeah well, I was 'satisfied' playing my SNES and Genesis. Did that keep studios making games for it? No.
There comes a time when you just gotta say TOO BAD. Things progress. You can either move along with it, or get left behind.
NHK here in Japan broadcasts in HD, and I must say it does look spiffy!
Although Japan is a very late adopter to Digital TV, only having the service for around 2 years or so (compared to about 6 years in the UK!!), AND having a low percentage of viewers, they are still going to turn Terrestial UHF signals off at the end of this year.
Unlike the UK, where we all seem to understand that we need a box to get digital, here in Japan the common misconception is that one needs to buy a whole new TV! So if anything, that should boost HDTV sales = more need for blueray = more sales of PS3 here.
This leadership in techology is lead not by innovation but by actually tricking a huge base of consumers. I've never seen a digital TV box on sale here!
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Yeah well, I was 'satisfied' playing my SNES and Genesis. Did that keep studios making games for it? No.
There comes a time when you just gotta say TOO BAD. Things progress. You can either move along with it, or get left behind.
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I think there's a pretty big difference between gaming and TV. I totally agree with the 100% digital thing, all those wasted frequencies need to be devoted to something more important, like ambulances! But, I don't believe every broadcast should be in HD. I've had many people tell me they literally don't see the difference in picture, and I've even had people just tell me they like SD better. It's because most people don't really care to see the sweat run down basketball player's faces. They don't want to see the wrinkles on a monkey's ballsack as he runs through the forest. They don't want to see the pimples on a porn star's ass . I'm all for the progression of technology, but I think that this is one advancement that doesn't need to be forced onto the average Joe. And trust me, I love HD. I have an HDTV, high end 6.1 setup, with a HTPC built for it all, but I really don't need it if all I want to do is watch Oprah and Jerry Springer .
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the ONE thing that will make people question their resolve to NOT buy a ps3. O.O
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Not all people. :P It affects me in no way.
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the ONE thing that will make people question their resolve to NOT buy a ps3. O.O
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Not all people. :P It affects me in no way.
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all the FF7 FANBOYS then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YaAzUI5nTI
$600 for a BluRay player ALONE is worth it. But the PS3 plays games, has media-center capability, and can read like 20 differant media formats.
Keep in mind that the cheapest BluRay player is $1000. And there's no reason to believe a player will ship by PS3's launch, which will be less than $600.
And yes, Final Fantasy is worth it.
I bought a ps1 just so i could play FF7 so i might buy a ps3 for the same thing
$600 for a BluRay player ALONE is worth it.
If you have an HDTV, you like paying premium prices for playback hardware and Bluray gets decent movie support instead of being kicked out of the market by HDDVD or lack of consumer interest in high-priced HD movies that is.
600 dollar console + 60 dollar game for a million random encounters with better graphics and a story that everyone has already played?
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Man, I just spent $3500 today on a new HD TV because I decided my old HD TV wasn't uber enough. $700 for a blu-ray DVD player and FF7 Special Edition is something I wouldn't think twice about. I'm one of the guys that Cochtl mentioned, I literally bought my PS1 the day FF7 came out. Yeah, the story isn't all that and a bag o' chips, but damned if that wasn't one of the most exciting gaming experiences I've ever had.
Incidentally, I am 100% sure this game is being made. It has to be, there's no way Square Enix doesn't know how crazy people are for the game. Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, the so-called 'tech demo'... It's been nine years and fans are still into the FF7 world. A remake of that game a license to print money, a game that literally sells the console, and Sony isn't gonna let that pass. (The only classic remake that could get me more geeked out is if Nintendo announced a 20th anniversary revival of Kid Icarus. I'd stomp on a sack of kittens if I got to play Kid Icarus on the Wii )
And your point is?
$600 for a BluRay player ALONE is worth it.
If you have an HDTV, you like paying premium prices for playback hardware and Bluray gets decent movie support instead of being kicked out of the market by HDDVD or lack of consumer interest in high-priced HD movies that is.
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That's me exactly, mate!
And honestly, they aren't that expensive anymore. You can get an amazing DLP set in the $1500-2000 range. If you want to get plasma or LCD, that's where the price skyrockets.
I'd wait until next year to buy a new set though, when Toshiba's SED technology hits the market. Plasma-thin monitors with CRT quality color & black levels, with a whopping 100,000:1 contrast ratio (or more, depending on the set).
I don't think that BluRay will fail though. DVD's were far from common when the PS2 came out. Because it functioned as a DVD played AND a game player, DVD sales skyrocketed (especially in Japan).
I think that same thing will happen with the PS3. Sony has a lot of big name support for the format, and it will be the cheapest player of it's kind. I think it's a good way to usher the format in.
Look at what happened with hard drives. When I got my first PC in 1998, it had a 5Gb hard drive. They said that's all I'd ever need. Now they have drives that are over 1TB in size. There's always a need for more storage, and requirements will always grow. The fact that BluRay holds more data will help it out in the end.
Wait, when did they start mandating HD? Last I checked that wasn't mandated at all, only digital transmission was a requirement.
My hope is that they do end up enforcing HD signals, though.
upscaled SD looks soooo nice... not!
By 2009 everything needs to be digital instead of analog. I was saying it should be one step further, and require 100% HD signals only.
Their is already legislation being discussed about mandatory HD after 2009, and to ease your mind it has stiff requirements. Content providers will NOT be able to down-res HD signals to anyone, and only real HD content is to be displayed (no upscaling). Keep in mind though, that the only 'HD Standard' is 720p. So it's not a gargantuan jump in visuals like 1080i or 1080p is.
Also content providers are slow to adopt HD because it requires 4-7 times (720p and 1080i, presumably) as much bandwidth as a normal station. Unless the maximum bandwidth greatly exceeds the bandwidth used today that would mean a lot of stations would have to be dropped to make room for others.
Ah yes, yes, my bad. It is only a digital mandate, not HD.
My hope is that they do end up enforcing HD signals, though.
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Right, so all the poor people who can't afford HDTVs can't watch TV! What about the people who are satisfied with SD? I guarantee you my grandma doesn't give a damn if Oprah is in high definition or not. I will tell you however, that she doesn't want to spend about 800 bucks to replace her mediocre sized TV.
There comes a time when you just gotta say TOO BAD. Things progress. You can either move along with it, or get left behind.
Although Japan is a very late adopter to Digital TV, only having the service for around 2 years or so (compared to about 6 years in the UK!!), AND having a low percentage of viewers, they are still going to turn Terrestial UHF signals off at the end of this year.
Unlike the UK, where we all seem to understand that we need a box to get digital, here in Japan the common misconception is that one needs to buy a whole new TV! So if anything, that should boost HDTV sales = more need for blueray = more sales of PS3 here.
This leadership in techology is lead not by innovation but by actually tricking a huge base of consumers. I've never seen a digital TV box on sale here!
Yeah well, I was 'satisfied' playing my SNES and Genesis. Did that keep studios making games for it? No.
There comes a time when you just gotta say TOO BAD. Things progress. You can either move along with it, or get left behind.
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I think there's a pretty big difference between gaming and TV. I totally agree with the 100% digital thing, all those wasted frequencies need to be devoted to something more important, like ambulances! But, I don't believe every broadcast should be in HD. I've had many people tell me they literally don't see the difference in picture, and I've even had people just tell me they like SD better. It's because most people don't really care to see the sweat run down basketball player's faces. They don't want to see the wrinkles on a monkey's ballsack as he runs through the forest. They don't want to see the pimples on a porn star's ass . I'm all for the progression of technology, but I think that this is one advancement that doesn't need to be forced onto the average Joe. And trust me, I love HD. I have an HDTV, high end 6.1 setup, with a HTPC built for it all, but I really don't need it if all I want to do is watch Oprah and Jerry Springer .