It's not enough for people to simply LIKE something, they also have to argue that it has some commonly accepted strengths. They have to argue that OTHER people should like it too. You probably get pissed off when others don't share your taste in music.
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i like you per. and others should as well so that i feel validated in my decision.
I like Arnold Schwarzenegger films. I also enjoy the pulp fiction Destroyer series of books written by Warren Murphy and Richard Sapir. Both of which would raise eyebrows in snooty intellectual circles. I refuse to apologise for liking them but I won't try to paint them as great intellectual works of our time.
i got two chapters into the da vinci code befor sacking it off and waiting for the film, not cos i dont like to read, i just thought 2 1/2 hours was alot less of a waste of my time than a reading the book.
the film is no better, has some "interesting" ideas, but poor(wooden) dialogue and the ending is cheezyfied by hanks boo hoo hooo rant about how he thought god was with him when he fell down a well as a child.
well hanky boy it was me and i was trying to push you under (although i do like BIG) wmmaahajhahah.
anyone read Vernon God Little, now thats a propper good book, lots of swearing, i likee
Speaking of books to movies. Anybody read Trainspotting the book? While there are elements of the book in the film they are really quite different stories. Still I enjoyed both immensely. A movie based on a book doesn't necessarily need to follow the book religiously. I think this is a common mistake a lot of writers/directors make in book to film adaptions.
yeah i read it years ago, it is quite different if i remeber correctly (had alot of swearing aswell, which was nice).
speaking of films not following the books, i read a few of the 007 books as a kid, and one or two were nothing like the film with the same name, completely different stories.
I'm a firm believer in not having to justify my tastes. There are a great deal of things I like that are unintelligent, poorly written, or just don't have many values except those I assign to them due to my personality.
Most of the books I read are pure pulp. I find it hard to feel like an intellectual when I am reading a books about a dude in a robot suit ripping the arms off giant ants with his bare hands.
haha
i love all the elitists who're come out to play!
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I don't know why you would think reading is elitist. The situation is like when people say "OMG! Madden is the best game ever"! All that tells me is that that person hasn't played many video games.
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Well, someone saying "OMG! Madden is the best game ever"! Is simply stating their opinion and in a very vague way. It indicates in no way how many video games they've played because its very possible. Who knows if said person is speaking from a technical, artistic, gameplay, or feature specific standpoint? It's all speculation. So it is your choice to either think positively and give the person the benefit of the doubt or think negatively and just assume that said person is speaking from a standpoint that would easily prove his opinion as being false. Taking the negative route could be viewed as elitist since you would be just assuming that you're the smart guy and the Madden fan doesn't know anything.
Dude. If you think Madden is the best game ever, than you are a retard. To think myself better than a retard doesn't make me elitist. All it means is I have the smallest degree of self-respect.
No, I just can't comment on the movie since I haven't seen it yet, however I have read the book.
I don't know how that book could translate to the screen and be entertaining instead of plain old interesting without some major changes but i'd like to be proven wrong.
I saw it last night. While Technically it WAS a movie, Artisically it failed on nearly every front. Boring, dull characters going through the motions with no real reason to in the slightest. No sense of danger, no real sense of any emotion at all, and a plot so weak it almost made me cry. I'm glad I saw it for free that's for sure.
While there really wasn't anything downright WRONG with it, there really wasn't anything RIGHT with it either. It was just simply there.
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Dude. If you think Madden is the best game ever, than you are a retard. To think myself better than a retard doesn't make me elitist. All it means is I have the smallest degree of self-respect.
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I probably play sports games more than any other videogame genre (well, except maybe FPSs on the PC). ESPN Football (SEGA's NFL2K series) is the most played game on my Xbox, because it's entertaining, challenging and has infinite replay value. I personally hate RPGs like Final Fantasy and its ilk... if I wanted to read a shitty fantasy novel, I'd do just that; I wouldn't play a 40+ hour game with tedious, turn-based, random battles. But that's just me.
To say that anyone who thinks Madden is the best game ever is retarded isn't being elitist, it's just being pathetic. As if anyone cares.
What are you talking about Madden for? This thread is about the Da Vinci Code, and vaguely about the values people assign different things, as Per128 already said most efficiently. Shut up already!
Seen it last night and they did a decent job. It was slow but I enjoyed it. I think the ending was done a lot better than the book, didn't feel as dry.
see that bit with the bluetooth wacom when he presses some imaginary button with his finger_?? lol
in all I thought it sucked, I can't really elaborate. Just slow and boring.
I admire Dan Brown for his work, writing a book is a hard thing to do, and formula writing is by far and wide the most popular. Personaly I'd rather read something by Stephen Baxter, and put my mind in the spin-drier.
I think I may have seen too many documentaries and have jaded my view. The film threw no punches. Well here's hoping for the 9/11 film with Nicholas Cage!!
yes, it is still popular. to the tune of about half a billion dollars in ticket sales, actually. it reminds me of a friend whose uncle's favorite phrase was "the masses are asses."
and you know what happens when a movie this bad makes that much money? that's right, more studios finance films like it. this is how Big Momma's House 2 got made, and why Big Momma's House 3 is probably on the way. stay classy, theater-going public of the world!
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It's not enough for people to simply LIKE something, they also have to argue that it has some commonly accepted strengths. They have to argue that OTHER people should like it too. You probably get pissed off when others don't share your taste in music.
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i like you per. and others should as well so that i feel validated in my decision.
the film is no better, has some "interesting" ideas, but poor(wooden) dialogue and the ending is cheezyfied by hanks boo hoo hooo rant about how he thought god was with him when he fell down a well as a child.
well hanky boy it was me and i was trying to push you under (although i do like BIG) wmmaahajhahah.
anyone read Vernon God Little, now thats a propper good book, lots of swearing, i likee
speaking of films not following the books, i read a few of the 007 books as a kid, and one or two were nothing like the film with the same name, completely different stories.
I'm a firm believer in not having to justify my tastes. There are a great deal of things I like that are unintelligent, poorly written, or just don't have many values except those I assign to them due to my personality.
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Quoted for truth. Good read Per.
Most of the books I read are pure pulp. I find it hard to feel like an intellectual when I am reading a books about a dude in a robot suit ripping the arms off giant ants with his bare hands.
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haha
i love all the elitists who're come out to play!
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I don't know why you would think reading is elitist. The situation is like when people say "OMG! Madden is the best game ever"! All that tells me is that that person hasn't played many video games.
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Well, someone saying "OMG! Madden is the best game ever"! Is simply stating their opinion and in a very vague way. It indicates in no way how many video games they've played because its very possible. Who knows if said person is speaking from a technical, artistic, gameplay, or feature specific standpoint? It's all speculation. So it is your choice to either think positively and give the person the benefit of the doubt or think negatively and just assume that said person is speaking from a standpoint that would easily prove his opinion as being false. Taking the negative route could be viewed as elitist since you would be just assuming that you're the smart guy and the Madden fan doesn't know anything.
Is somebody claiming that Madden is the best game ever? I have reread the last few posts in the thread, and don't see anything like that.
I don't know how that book could translate to the screen and be entertaining instead of plain old interesting without some major changes but i'd like to be proven wrong.
While there really wasn't anything downright WRONG with it, there really wasn't anything RIGHT with it either. It was just simply there.
Dude. If you think Madden is the best game ever, than you are a retard. To think myself better than a retard doesn't make me elitist. All it means is I have the smallest degree of self-respect.
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I probably play sports games more than any other videogame genre (well, except maybe FPSs on the PC). ESPN Football (SEGA's NFL2K series) is the most played game on my Xbox, because it's entertaining, challenging and has infinite replay value. I personally hate RPGs like Final Fantasy and its ilk... if I wanted to read a shitty fantasy novel, I'd do just that; I wouldn't play a 40+ hour game with tedious, turn-based, random battles. But that's just me.
To say that anyone who thinks Madden is the best game ever is retarded isn't being elitist, it's just being pathetic. As if anyone cares.
Mop; I know! WTF? It was just an analogy.
I want my money back
see that bit with the bluetooth wacom when he presses some imaginary button with his finger_?? lol
in all I thought it sucked, I can't really elaborate. Just slow and boring.
I admire Dan Brown for his work, writing a book is a hard thing to do, and formula writing is by far and wide the most popular. Personaly I'd rather read something by Stephen Baxter, and put my mind in the spin-drier.
I think I may have seen too many documentaries and have jaded my view. The film threw no punches. Well here's hoping for the 9/11 film with Nicholas Cage!!
good riddance
and you know what happens when a movie this bad makes that much money? that's right, more studios finance films like it. this is how Big Momma's House 2 got made, and why Big Momma's House 3 is probably on the way. stay classy, theater-going public of the world!