Bored bust
polycounter lvl 18
Finaly had some time this morning to finish it . yay.
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http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/b1ll/goth_fwip.jpg
Ill do others soon. Cya
b1ll
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http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/b1ll/goth_fwip.jpg
Ill do others soon. Cya
b1ll
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GIMME YOUR HANDS!
for some reason i sometimes like it when that happens, though, when high detail sits next to low detail and it still looks like it kinda fits.
more more more more
Sweet as man. I always love how much skin colour variation you get in there.
keep it coming!:)
B
i love the colors, you got that weird purple / brown color gothic chicks wear spot on. you did a fantanstic job of evolving and pulling on the gothic theme. i really love the constume work you've done here. the laces and metal patchwork is really very interesting to me.
the only issue i have is the space between her collar bone and her breast line, her sternum looks very long and i can't make sense of it.
cool work as per usual b1ll, i really enjoy your work.
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what i really like is the relation to your previous character, the FF-looking guy--there's such a nice sense of texture and detail to the face. it's stylish, but with a suggestion of realistic detail. i diggit.
the vest is also cool.
i agree with marine and k.people,
too much space to the sides of the eyes,
there is a plane change as the cheekbone curves back and the jaw falls down under it, and the neck muscles go right behind that.
your front plane is just stretching too far out.
hehehe awesome stuff as always. I need to get "Bored" more often ey?
Only thing that bothers me is her wide facial structure, almost heart-shaped. Everytime I see you post something, though, its a kick in the ass to improve.
Only thing that bothers me is, like Shotgun pointed out, the face seems really wide. I kinda miss the ears, but i assume they're under the hair. Hard to tell in a simple frontal view (!)
not that it changes your observations, but it's not like the dude doesn't realize this about his art
I am not really in any position to complain on the model nor the texture, I like the red nose
Did you do all the designs?? Cause them clothes looks really nice, I love the strings going around the shoulders, and of course the shirt thingie under the jacket, very very nice.
Did you use any references?? or is there any pericular pic you used as inspiration source??
/Palm
The face is fine, but the width at the sides past the eyes seems too much for me.
I found the Jacket odd too, but i just assumed it was some fancy SciFi clothing, since it doesn't look like leather or latex with the actual highlights. I can live with that.
And, since we are nitpicking about small things already anyway, the darker color tones look like you shaded them with gray or black. Black/gray shadows on skin always make it look dirty, you sure know that, one of the reasons why people put so much attention in skin shaders for next gen games, to get warmer shadows.
I'd really try to use warmer colors to make the shadows, rather than gray, it makes such a huge difference. I don't think you should have any problems doing that.
i think its a bang up job.. very nice.. i love the design of the hair.. but i think the execution of the hair, in comparason is very weak.. it dosent even feel like hair.. looks more like crushed velvet ropes outside of a club or something.. just looks like no effort was put in it.. like the hair was an after thought.. still awesome.. but i feel if you can paint a face like that you can make some decent hair if you tried..
I like how it look, Im happy.
Its starting to be weird to fight eachothers for whos right about anatomy. Not sure whos knows what anyway.
But Hey, I had fun making it, I have others on the way, and Thats thats!
THanks !
benregimbal@hotmail.com
The width of the face is not fully reached on that image until further back, where the ears are.
Now, take your image and give it the same hair as B1ll's model, the hair covers the ears completely and part of the face before the ears, the width left will be a lot less since the outher sides will be covered by the hair.
I could probably live with the face being so wide, if it didn't seem that are the width happens way ahead of the ears, on the front of the face, The hair covers quite so much you'd think. Yet the width of the face happens all even before of the ear and hair. That's quite weird, don't you agree ?
It throws me off anyway.
great texturing work ben , as usual the face texture looks awesome , could you post some shaded renders of the wmodel also ? cause it would be cool to see them :P
bye !
The fact that the texturing is pretty realistic and everything else seems to point towards realism, odd proportions that aren't *quite* right show up as more obvious errors.
I agree with StrangeFate here, the face does look too wide in the wrong area, and it's not a natural proportion thing... that said, Arshlevon's image is hardly a shining example of good anatomy, heh. (edit: Although he's actually changed it to a better one now, hmm).
Johny: Maybe you should recommend that everyone start posting models with little disclaimers before the images saying "By the way, the fact that the arms are too long, feet are the wrong shape and the head is too wide is just a stylistic choice, and I don't want anyone talking about it." ... that'd just be silly ...
People can crit what they see as incorrect given the context. Sure exaggerated proportions and weird anatomy can work in the right fashion, but if things are just slightly wrong instead of obviously intentionally warped or exaggerated, then it's likely that it's an actual fault the artist overlooked, rather than an intentional stylistic choice.
b1ll: Well, if people are arguing over anatomy, I'd guess usually if you show it to some person on the street who doesn't know about bone or muscle structure really, they might say "Well, this part looks wrong, but I don't know why" - just with human anatomy, it's stuff everyone sees every day, so it's usually obvious when something is slightly wrong, because it just doesn't "look" right - not because the jaw bone is wrong or that muscle or the other is too big, just because people know what things are meant to look like, and can usually determine when things don't look "right" without really knowing exactly why they don't look right.
I think it's called the uncanny valley or something - when a human representation looks almost real but is missing something or something is wrong that makes it seem a bit strange... you know... lol
Anyway, beautiful work...I love checking out all your latest posts. Great style.
What I mean is U ladies fight each other about anatomy, Everyone trying to make the other believe hes right, Its just not helpfull at all. I made it so i was happy and satify,
U guys are just trying to proove u are right among each others, that useless.
b1ll
I personally love the bust, great work.
"pimps" their work...but come on....I think it's pretty clear that B1ll has a fairly solid grasp of anatomy, and the things that you see in his work is more style then anything else.
If it makes you happy, that's great, b1ll... I was more talking about other stuff than this particular model really.
Never mind.
I can definately appreciate that approach, though I might not agree totally with it.
Good work man, I really dig her. Great to see someone just saying screw the world and make something you really enjoy. I really dig her facial colors and all the alpha bits around her outfit. I might have made the strings single planes to help with rigging purposes, but that's just personal preference.
Can't wait to see what you got cooking next. Oh yeah FLATS, SHOW US THOSE FRENCH KANADA FLATS!!!!
you just cant crit someone for giving (on spot) critique...
if u have nothing useful to say so, with all respect to free speech and all, stfu
that is why we always make characters and creatures with perfect proportions even when it comes to extremes of the spectrum. i.e. fatter characters or skinner characters, they still have to look right, even thought there probably arent people out there with such proportions.
In all fairness, i think bill's piece looks fine despite numerous anatomical issues you guys pointed out. The overall result is very stylish and convincing, bordering reality and fantasy.
Either way I think this is good stuff and I always enjoy seeing some new models from you bill. Definetly makes me want to make a cool bust now too!
it seems like her jacket 'sparkles' a little too much, maybe some more yellow highlights could soften the jagginess of the edges. Its kinda cool how it has a carapace feel though.
dunno, its pretty tits. dig it.