I fear that by spelling out or hammering home the subtle nuances that made the story great, it will slip through their fingers like the 2nd and 3rd matrix did when they stopped stealing from grant morrison's invisibles.
I'd really hoped that as they did a better job of the first matrix while stealing from a real writers work, having a real writers work, and permission this time would
really work to their strengths.
Now that I've seen the trailer , most of my fears have been confirmed; someone ought to have told them that V is not Neo.
I don't think they grasped the story enough to tell it... of course, I am still crossing my fingers, but I think this is one of those cases, like with Get Carter, where an american storyteller lacks the insight to tell a unique british story and I would have preferred to let the story die than see it murdered on the big screen.
DONT go see this movie. Moore didnt want it to be made but since DC owns the rights they made it anyways, and Moore cut all relations with DC after that.
Atleast thats what ive read.
While I'm unfamiliar with the subject material, this doesn't look like the sort of movie that'll go over terribly well in the current political environment. That said it looks like it might be entertaining enough. Given whats happened to Moore's other works that have hit the screen and how awful 2/3 of the Matrix was, I won't get my hopes up too much.
Hah Ror - "...the 2nd and 3rd matrix did when they stopped stealing from grant morrison's invisibles."
I've heard Morrison go on about that myself and personally I think that his links are a little tenous at least.
The Invisibles is easily my favourite comic book ever though and it really helped open my eyes to alot of new concepts and roads to travel. I've got them all in the house and its the only comic series I'd probably read again. I heard Grant Morrison talking about the series getting turned into either a made for TV movie or a series by the BBC - which although it could be really cool - I've no idea how they would transalte half of it to the silver screen!!!
This might be threadrot though 'cos I've never read V for Vendetta - sorry!?!?!
Fat: Have you read Morrison's interview on Suicide Girls? Do a google, I think this makes it clear.
Outside of that confirmation, well the underlying theme of the Matrix is taking drugs to expand you mind and realise you are a prisoner to the system and that theme of opening your mind is the underlying theme also of the invisibles.
Morrison admits (as if that was required!) that lsd / e informed as much of the invisibles as downers informed The Filth.
Rick: Well maybe you know this, but the christian scribes turned Lug of the Long Arm into Leprechaun so this is not exactly a new trend now is it?
Ror: Yeah I remember reading that interview a while back but I still dont really see any startling similarities like Grant claims (can't remember everything that interview says off the top of my head though), other than the general theme of freeing yourself and overthrowing the corrupt powers... but this is a theme in alot of work.
Anyway - The Invisibles is great and The MAtrix is...well...not. If they pinched Morrison's ideas they didn't do it very well!
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On a side note, was it just me, or did that whole trailer sound like a load of social commentary?
Looks like it should be fun.
This looks good. Moore on the screen has been a disapointment up till now, hope this breaks the chain.
I heard the bros.(or whatever) were doing Watchmen. Guess not.
oh, and The Watchmen was going to be done by Paramount but it got canned when the studio president was replaced.
I'd really hoped that as they did a better job of the first matrix while stealing from a real writers work, having a real writers work, and permission this time would
really work to their strengths.
Now that I've seen the trailer , most of my fears have been confirmed; someone ought to have told them that V is not Neo.
I don't think they grasped the story enough to tell it... of course, I am still crossing my fingers, but I think this is one of those cases, like with Get Carter, where an american storyteller lacks the insight to tell a unique british story and I would have preferred to let the story die than see it murdered on the big screen.
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Whoa. Dude!
Anyways, V looks good to me. I've never read the comic, so I don't know if it's 'accurate' or not.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, though.
Atleast thats what ive read.
I've heard Morrison go on about that myself and personally I think that his links are a little tenous at least.
The Invisibles is easily my favourite comic book ever though and it really helped open my eyes to alot of new concepts and roads to travel. I've got them all in the house and its the only comic series I'd probably read again. I heard Grant Morrison talking about the series getting turned into either a made for TV movie or a series by the BBC - which although it could be really cool - I've no idea how they would transalte half of it to the silver screen!!!
This might be threadrot though 'cos I've never read V for Vendetta - sorry!?!?!
Outside of that confirmation, well the underlying theme of the Matrix is taking drugs to expand you mind and realise you are a prisoner to the system and that theme of opening your mind is the underlying theme also of the invisibles.
Morrison admits (as if that was required!) that lsd / e informed as much of the invisibles as downers informed The Filth.
Rick: Well maybe you know this, but the christian scribes turned Lug of the Long Arm into Leprechaun so this is not exactly a new trend now is it?
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Anyway - The Invisibles is great and The MAtrix is...well...not. If they pinched Morrison's ideas they didn't do it very well!
Looks like a orwell story with action. hmm, natalie portman still looks hot shaved..