gta style modding

golden_apple

hello, I like playing GTA games and 3D-modeling.
I already made some experience in modding and rigging some characters. Well, let's come to the point:
I want to model a GTA-character.. I think its very lowpoly, easy to rig,.. and so on
So.. I'm using MAX and searching for some tutorials or tips.. Might you help me? Maybe you can offer the secret of that nice skinned and well moddeld characters? thx!
bye, golden apple

lkraan

You can find a good character modelling tutorial here...
http://www.poopinmymouth.com/tutorial/tutorial.htm

The Polycount resources pages also have a ton of tutorials next to the video tutorials.

There is no secret to "nice skinned and well moddeld characters". Just practice it for a long time, show you work here in the Pimping & Preview forum and ask specific questions

Rick Stirling

1000 to 1200 polygons

1 texture map, 128x256 pixels, 256 colours.

golden_apple

sure! there must be a secret!
And I wasnt lookin' for the "secret" of a well skinned and modeled simple chracter! The GTA style is that great!
only 1000 polys?? Sounds low... too low, isnt it? a weapon or a head even swallow up 1000 polys!
And why a non-quad? why not 512*512? do "rockstar" really used only 1000 polys? and a map with the size of 128*256?
thanks

Prs-Phil

why non quad ??? gamecontent is counted in triangles

Do they really use that ? look at rick_stirling's profile

KDR_11k

It's not quad because IIRC 128x256 is the biggest texture chunk that fits into the PS2's texture cache. As for the 1k polies, if you don't model any details and have a fairly simple shape (i.e. your chatacter isn't wearing some fancy outfit) it's enough, especially if the camera stays far enough away. A gun will take up 100-200 tris at that detail level.

golden_apple

hi!
why are you just talking about the textures?
The modeling is my greatest prob..
I need a tutorial showing how to create a model wich is just made like on of the GTA charactermodels..

oXYnary

Look at some of the quake 1 quake 2 modeling tutorials with the tutorial/reference thread listed at the top of this section.

They should be near the same polycount.

If your asking how to get it into the game. No clue.

golden_apple

hi, sounds good, but i can't find the thread..
could you give me a link?
thx, dude ^^

Eric Chadwick

Look for "Tutorials Sticky Thread"
http://boards.polycount.net/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=3

poopinmymouth

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It's not quad because IIRC 128x256 is the biggest texture chunk that fits into the PS2's texture cache.

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Not entirely true, maybe for Rockstars engine, but bloodrayne 2 used full 512x512 sheets for the characters on the PS2

KDR_11k

Dunno, Whargoul talked about that stuff in detail some time ago. There is a texture access restriction but I'm not sure what it was. Had something to do with the maximum size of a triangle on the texture and not crossing certain boundaries. Might just have been a limit of their engine. If it's an engine restriction it's definitely not one of the GTA engine.

Didn't GTA3 use 256x256 textures?

Rick Stirling

The ps2 takes 256x256. For most on screen pedestrians a 128x256 texture = 2 textures.

diZzyWalnut

one of the best tutorial what I've seen :

Modeling Joan of Arc by Michel Roger

KDR_11k

Her proportions are pretty wacky, though, it might teach newbies some bad anatomy. But hell, at least it's not as bad as Buzz's UT04 modeling VTM.

golden_apple

i want lowpoly and rigging..

KDR_11k

Rigging is in there. Lowpoly modeling can be found here. That's Poop's tutorial.

3dtotal has quite a lot of tutorials.

golden_apple

That was what I was looking for.
you're a bringer of blessings, dude ^^
thx

Just a question (KDR..(??)):
WHY is the capitalism the devil himself?

KDR_11k

Capitalism mandates that what makes money is good, it promotes egoism and exploitation. It corrupts man and makes people hate each other because of money. It condemns altruism as evil. If you run a company you are constantly tempted to sell your soul to shareholders for immediate profit and be their slave for the rest of your existence, forced to do what benefits your shareholders instead of what you think is worth archieving. Decide you'd rather help those third world nations cure their diseases instead of selling the cure at horrendrous prices? Well, that's not in the interest of your master. Sounds exactly like what the devil is said to do.

But that's getting off topic.