Glad theyve made a good batman flick again, that last one was a steaming pile of crap,i think its one os the first movies ive demanded my money back. Alisha Silverstone as batgirl man who thought of that?
anyway the new one is getting great reviews and hopefully it will be good enough to make me forget that waste of time they called batman from a few years ago
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wish i could say the same for 2 face, that must have been some chemical if it turned him from a black guy from the first two flicks to an old whire guy in the 3rd
wish i could say the same for 2 face, that must have been some chemical if it turned him from a black guy from the first two flicks to an old whire guy in the 3rd
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Jacksonite, deadly stuff.
82% fresh on rotten tomatoes so far,as for the batmobile,in frank millers dark knight returns he drove a bat tank
http://members.chello.at/peterhengl/files/dkr-batmobile.jpg
And yes, the "batmobile" in Dark Knight Returns was just utterly ridiculous.
I think the biggest CG part of the movie is the actual bats.
Frank the Avenger
this was everything I love about Batman.
Going to go see it again tonight.
best comic book movie yet. It's 10 different kinds of awesome.
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Not Sin City then?
what makes this movie so good, is that it tells the story of how bruce wayne became batman.
and by that i mean its not bam parents murdured and 10 years later i have batcave and all this wacky gear
no it went showed very well the events which lead him to finally decide to become batman,training,guilt,desire for vengence to finally becoming batman and getting all the 1337 gear
all of the acting was top notch,the story was paced well,a good bit went into bruce wayne character development, no campy "holey rusted metal type of dialog" and its sacralige,but bale made a better bruce wayne then micheal keaten, he looked acted like a rich playboy but he had a darkside look too him too
if it wasnt a comic this would be a good dramatic film by itself
It was fun and it was dark. The only this I was disapointed by was some of the more hectic fight scenes are let down by overly chaotic direction that makes it impossible to get a proper overview of what is happening, who is doing what.
In Batman1 for instance, as a henchman backflips and flashs his twin swords whilst advancing upon the batman, we are able to appreciate and revel in the glory of the combatants and be impressed by their abilities.
There are no scenes like that in Batman begins, its always a case of 'who hit who, whats happening now, was that batman that was hit, did he hit them? oh its over, batman won'.
This was my complaint about Batman 3 and 4 also, but batman begins thankfully has great storytelling , characters, scripts and settings. Its a really topnotch film that i would recommend to anyone.
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I was impressed by how dark they managed to make it, given a PG-13 rating.
Batmobile rules, but I think they need to work on making a more flexible suit for batman; he still has to turn his whole body to look to the side.
Ever since the Spiderman movies (my 2nd fav character) came out i've been waiting for this. Drooling.
If somebody like this, can enjoy Daredevil even it it has Ben Affleck in it, overlook the casting for the actual movie and performance,
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Just got back from it. I really enjoyed it. As a story in particular it impressed me , it;s a great restart to the franchise with the right guy in the part.
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then I feel safe that I will like my favorite character in a movie finally
the choice to forego a title card until the very end of the film, a la the animated series for instance. the little touches as well as the big stuff, it's all here. all in keeping with the batman mythos and legacy and yet at the same time recontextualizing many of the parts. i didn't think i could sit through yet another take on batman's origins, but in this movie you are far from simply waiting for the black suit to get put on.
anyhow, it's not like any of you aren't going to see it. magnificent!
ror: shakeycam close-in fight stuff was a bit of a problem i agree, but i think that has been and will continue to be a curious feature of the current era of filmmaking. so many current action films of the past few years have abused it in much the same fashion and i suspect it will continue for some time. so much of an emphasis on the subjective 'feel' of combat does give us a... well, subjective feel of the character's state, but very much at the expense of visual clarity. it'll be interesting when filmmakers get off of it and find their next pet device--pray it isn't worse
Also, Gary Oldman was FANTASTIC as Gordon. I was really impressed with his performance, it was perfect.
Frank the Avenger
The "look" of everything from the characters to the locations was excellent. The acting was very good too, in general ... good pace, good script, nice effects (the trippy stuff was cool!).
I thought it was good that, although it's not really a very long movie, it felt much longer, without actually dragging on... they managed to cram a lot of stuff into the time (Alien vs. Predator take note - that one felt like it was 20 minutes long, even though it was 5 times that).
Loved the scene where he hoisted Fleiss (spelling?) up in the alley and yelled at him!
My only musing is... what about the 70% water that human beings consist of? :P
One can pray that they'll release a new Superman movie in the next year, then by the time the Superman hype kicks back in, come out with a 'Dark Knight Returns' film. The only reason why i could see them not going into the DK1/2 storylines would be because of his 'bat clan' he creates in those books. Would be an ironic twist though. who knows.
i fucking loved it, and i am seeing it again.
it's freaking brill. some nice giggles in amongst the heavy dark drama. i liked the bit where [spoilers]
earle got the boot near the end
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and i'm pretty sure this is the first time i've really felt like i can really sympathize with batman's character, that i've been privy to the major steps in his life and consequently, when fighting, i'm actually a little concerned that he might get whupped up on. it's a lot more vulnerable, personal portrait of the man... especially the wrenching duality of his life as the playboy Bruce Wayne and his true identity as batman, which has never quite been crystalized as well as it was in the scene where he is leaving the hotel with his floozies in tow and runs into Katie Holmes' character. wonderful stuff--will definitely see it again
Scarecrow guy was awesome.. I wish we got to know him better.
One of the few things i was disapointed about was.. Man..!! I was dying to hear a really slow and dark version Elfmanns Batman theme song sneak somewhere into the soundtrack. That would have topped it off and given me chills.
is all I have to say.
..he doesn't articulate enough.
Brilliant film. It's probably the first film I've read all the news about from pre-production onward and it was well worth the wait. I've always loved Batman and now, I simply have another reason.
Christian Bale is good.
I think in an extended version we'll see Scarecrow at least once more simply because not finishing substorylines (Scarecrow) is a big nono I've been teached in my scripthours at my digital film studies. And I doubt such guys would make that kind of errors.
Katie Holmes sucked though, totally unneeded actually. That said i can't wait for Lachy Hulme as Joker, he totally looks the part (nose, strong septum, big mouth). Finally they take actors and not just celebs.
The scenes with the Scarecrow were a perfect way to tie in the miller-esque element to the Batman Mythos. Wow, need to see again!
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I think Holmes' Character was a good way to tie Bruce back to his roots. The fact that he had a connection with her (all about Justice) and a connection with Neeson (vengence & power) was a good way to blance him into the perfect Batman model.
the more growly, snarly voice batman has. keaton did rasp a bit, but kilmer and clooney sounded normal. W..T..F..?
the fact that the gadgets are all more reality based. no chance of a repeat of B&R's stupid pop-out iceskates.
the lack of a)nipples, b)neon-lighting and c)completely gratuitous shots of his ass in the tight rubber as he puts the suit on.
the conversations with gordon and the fact that gordon is more integral to the story. after the 1989 one his role got smaller and less important.
the whole ninja angle and the disappearing mid-conversation. irked me no end not to have that in the old movies afer seeing it in the comics.
a decent alfred who isn't nearing doddery dotage. no offence michael gough, but you look 80 and cain looks like he's still in his 50s.
i also liked the character cameo of mr Zsazz, the thug who gets put in arkham, in the comics he's a minor villain who's a serial killer that scars his his body with scratch-marks for each kill. real sicko.
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wa that it showed bruce wayne going though all the things someoneone with murdured families go through guilt,anger and my favorite was when he contemplated killing his parents killers, he didnt just have his parents murdured then bam im gonna go put on a suit and stop bad guys.
Gah, I hate that.
Anyway, can't wait for more Batman movies from this rekindling of one of (if not my favorite) comic book characters.