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Environment WIP.... 'swamp house'

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Yes I know I title my scenes very well.

This is a WIP I did this afternoon. Created a quick sketch at a friends house for this then rushed home to get my idea down in Max.

Couple shots..

swamphouse4.jpg
swamphouse5.jpg

The plan is to use spec mask's and height maps on this one. I may do normals for the rocks ala HL2.

I'll post as I update.

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  • Erol
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    Erol polycounter lvl 18
    Looks very cool. Can't wait to see some textures on there.
  • JordanW
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    JordanW polycounter lvl 19
    Your scene is looking interesting so far. Maybe you could post your sketches for this so that we can get a better idea of what you're shooting for overall. One thing I can suggest at this point is i know your lighting may be early right now but youo should definatly make your scene brighter. I know it's supposed to be swampy and such but you can achieve that feel with a broader range of values. I do look forward to seeing this textured though, just make sure it's not so dark!
  • Jeff Parrott
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    Jeff Parrott polycounter lvl 19
    Looking good so far Brome. Try putting the path lights on the opposite side of as the window in the house. They would block the view a bit. Looks a bit like Yoda's house I think. Get this thing textured now.
  • swampbug
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    swampbug polycounter lvl 18
    I'd live there.. ha ha ha.


    This scene would be cool if you had tons of branches/ vines hanging down from the top of the frame, that way it sorta dwarfs the house and makes it look like its sheltered by a much larger entity.
  • adam
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    adam polycounter lvl 19
    Well thats the plan. You can't tell but there's some faces hanging over that'll be alpha mapped for branches. Waaaaay ahead of yah smile.gif
  • cholden
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    cholden polycounter lvl 18
    Them's big pics. Are you planning on entering this in the the CGtalk comp?
  • adam
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    adam polycounter lvl 19
    No, didn't even know about it.
  • adam
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    adam polycounter lvl 19
  • Wells
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    Wells polycounter lvl 18
    no warm light coming from inside the home?
  • adam
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  • cholden
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    cholden polycounter lvl 18
    I like the lamps and the bridge is a good start.
    A lot of the rest seems formless, as in, I can make out that there is a path going over the bridge, but it appears to just go into a wall.
    Those tree things do not add to the look of your scene, maybe if they added to the canopy of your scene, and were somehow connnected with the green top of the back wall.

    Don't worry so much about your lighting and texturing until you get this model solid, because, especially in this newest render, I can't making out anything in your scene, it's too dark. I mean honestly, at least wait until you have something on all those alpha sheets before posting this level of render, they look bad.
    Your wireframe render looks the best of these images.
  • adam
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    adam polycounter lvl 19
    Hey Chris, thanks for your imput. You're really helpful when it comes to this stuff. A few comments on what you said:

    Any ideas on what I could for the area where the path meets the door? The way I did the path was create a square plane and UV it out. I dropped the UV into photoshop and painted up a path texture that repeats nicely. Then I copy/pasted that plane and deformed it to fit the shape of the path I layed out prior to creating the square plane. Any thoughts on how to fix that area up so it doesn't seem to just 'go into a wall'?

    The tree-things are basically place holders until I sketch something out for them. I may go with the design and throw some more appendages (sp) onto the shapes to give them something more design.

    I got a little eager with the lighting as its still something new to me, but good idea on holding off. And you're right on posting too early without having all of the alpha's completed. I'm really post-a-WIP friendly and generally wanna show whatever render I've done to see how it looks. S'pose I should hold off until I have something more solid to show. (I'm working the alphas now).

    Thanks again Chris - any other help you'd be willing to share would rock!
  • PeteJ
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    PeteJ polycounter lvl 18
    be interested to see how you go with the water.
    just a thought but why not have a light coming from the house window? might put a nice touch.
    might have to get myself into doing some more env work!
    nicely done so far B
  • ScoobyDoofus
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    brome_paintover.jpg

    Adam, I did a little paintover to illustrate some stuff.

    I think some fireflys would go a long way. A little quick & dirty painted background helps as well.
    You could use some longer creeper vines (alpha planes, like youve got, only longer) coming over the front of the rock-house.
    More Reeds & Lillys in the water. A must have for any swamp house. Add some grass planes at the transition of the path-lawn. This will not only disguise the transition, but will also add focus, and help to guide the eye/player.
    Some view-aligned planes for corona's coming off the lanterns.
    Sectaurs has a good point about light emanating from the windows. I took that a step further and cracked the wood in the door to make for more dramatic volumetrics.
    Sorry its so messy, but I like the look of this, and think you can take it all the way.
  • adam
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    adam polycounter lvl 19
    I love ScoobyDoofus.
  • MoP
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    I like the ideas Scoob is putting forward there.

    I'd also seriously consider revising the whole model in terms of the design of the house and cliff. At the moment, it's immeasurably boring. Perfectly straight cliff; lumpy, formless house; seemingly no thought to the design or location of things, and the rock/cliff/thing that the house is emerging from is very boring. Doesn't look like a natural formation really. Needs some height variation at the very least, maybe some shrubbery growing on it, and some trickles of water or mini-waterfalls coming down it. It could be so much more atmospheric there, cliffs vanishing up into the mist, sort of thing (could make for very interesting camera angles too).
    At the moment it's just pretty boring, to me. Did you ever see the mushroom house that Dabu did recently? Now that was a kickass design. Everything flowed together and seemed to have a purpose and design. Your environment here seems a little "thrown together" without much thought for placement or design. Spend a little more time on that before going in with the textures and lighting, I'd say.

    MoP
  • adam
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    adam polycounter lvl 19
    Yah, repeating problem here is me jumping too far ahead. You're definitely right in adding more. Thanks MoP - I was hoping you'd have something to say.
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