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Wrath polycounter lvl 18
Hey guys and gals.

My computer at home has been running pretty sluggishly as of late. I've gone through the gamut of virus scans, spywayre scans, defrags, etc in effort to clean it up and it's gotten significantly better, but it still chugs occasionally doing someting as mundane as opening IE.

I found a great website, www.pcpitstop.com, that runs a bunch of tests, profiles your system, and tells you where your major bottlenecks might be. It then gives you step by step instuctions on what to do to rectify them. Among a host of other problems, this led me to discovering that my main hard drive (master) was jumpered to cable select, and my 2nd hard drive was jumpered as master. I have no idea how my system has been running at all with them set up this way, but fixing that helped out a lot. Still, I'm getting overall less performance than I'd hope for.

pcpitstop says my hard drives are a bit slower than average, particularly my main hard drive which is a 5400 rpm ATA drive with 2mb of cache. This is the only hardware it flagged as meritting attention.

My question is, working with a limited budget, what upgrades could I make to my system to get the biggest performance increase. Upgrade the CPU from a 1.6 to 3.0+, pick up a SATA hard drive with at least 7200 rpm and 8+mb of cahce, increase/upgrade to more/faster ram, etc?

I'll gladly post detailed system specs, if someone can clue me in on the best way to generate that info. Would dxdiag spit out the relevant info?

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  • shotgun
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    shotgun polycounter lvl 20
    get a bunch of thai workers and throw them into the box.
    they seem a little confused, sometimes, but they work like horses!
  • JKMakowka
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    JKMakowka polycounter lvl 18
    Install Linux (for example Ubuntu) tongue.gif
  • robioto
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    robioto polycounter lvl 19
    Or pick up a SATA 10k rpm Western Digital for a HD boost.

    I'm not sure how much ram you've got but 1 gig would be the minimum for 3d work, the ideal being as much as you can afford.

    ((That said there are plenty of people out there working with lesser hardware and creating amazing work despite technical limitations, I'm talking in ideals not saying that it's impossible to produce quality work with minimum or less than minimum hardware configs.))

    I think 2-3 gigs would be plenty. The current version of windows won't address more than 3-4 gigs.

    <I don't remember exactly how much but it's in that range, with the new 64 bit Xeons and Opterons this limit may not apply. I'm unsure whether the limit is a result of the older memory controller or the 32 bit OS. Maybe someone else can weigh in on that>.

    You can get as specific with ram as you like, I suggest ECC ram but I don't know if your board supports it. You can check Kingston or Crucial websites for higher performance ram products like matched pairs and lower latancy products. There are other manufacturers those are just 2 I'm familiar with.

    One helpful service that http://www.monarchcomputer.com provides is a barebones/combo configuration web app. You can find a workstation motherboard (Xeon or Opteron) with suggestions for the appropriate ram/processors/etc.

    I could ramble for too long on this subject so I'm cutting myself off here. Good luck with your upgrades.
  • steady
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    steady polycounter lvl 18
    omg shotgun ROFL
    my uncle has a cow farm in israel and he has about 5 or 6 thai workers there
    i dont know why but israel and thailand have some sort of close relationship, the thai people fight to come to israel to work because the economy is much better than their own, while the israelis go to thailand to vacation and ride elephants and do drugs
  • Wrath
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    Wrath polycounter lvl 18

    [ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003, 2004 Lavalys, Inc. ]

    Version EVEREST v1.51.195
    Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/
    Report Type Report Wizard
    Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
    Date 2005-04-18
    Time 13:31


    [ Summary ]

    Computer:
    Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
    OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
    Internet Explorer 6.0.2900.2180 (IE 6.0 SP2)
    DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)

    Motherboard:
    CPU Type Intel Pentium 4A, 1600 MHz (16 x 100)
    Motherboard Name Intel Rock Lake D865PERL (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DIMM)
    Motherboard Chipset Intel Springdale i865PE
    System Memory 512 MB (DDR SDRAM)
    BIOS Type AMI (01/22/04)
    Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
    Communication Port Printer Port (LPT1)

    Display:
    Video Adapter RADEON 9800 - Secondary (256 MB)
    Video Adapter RADEON 9800 (256 MB)
    3D Accelerator ATI Radeon 9800 (R350)
    Monitor Gateway EV900 [19" CRT] (743117070)

    Multimedia:
    Audio Adapter Creative SB Audigy 2 (WDM) [NoDB]
    Audio Adapter Intel 82801EB ICH5 - AC'97 Audio Controller

    Storage:
    IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
    IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
    Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
    Disk Drive Maxtor 4G160J8 (160 GB, 5400 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
    Disk Drive MAXTOR 6L080J4 (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
    Optical Drive SONY CD-RW CRX140E (8x/4x/32x CD-RW)
    SMART Hard Disks Status OK

    Partitions:
    C: (NTFS) 76332 MB (64041 MB free)
    D: (NTFS) 131069 MB (54188 MB free)

    Input:
    Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    Mouse Logitech USB WheelMouse

    Network:
    Network Adapter 10/100 PCI Ethernet Adapter (192.168.0.2)

    Peripherals:
    Printer Auto Auto EPSON Stylus C80 Series on WRATH on LAPTOP
    Printer EPSON Stylus C80 Series
    USB1 Controller Intel 82801EB ICH5 - USB Universal Host Controller
    USB1 Controller Intel 82801EB ICH5 - USB Universal Host Controller
    USB1 Controller Intel 82801EB ICH5 - USB Universal Host Controller
    USB1 Controller Intel 82801EB ICH5 - USB Universal Host Controller
    USB2 Controller Intel 82801EB(M) ICH5(-M) - Enhanced USB2 Controller
    USB Device Generic USB Hub
    USB Device Logitech USB WheelMouse
    USB Device USB Audio Device
    USB Device Veo Advanced Web Camera With Audio
    USB Device Veo Mobile/Advanced Web Camera


    [ DMI ]

    [ BIOS ]

    BIOS Properties:
    Vendor Intel Corp.
    Version RL86510A.86A.0071.P13.0401221036
    Release Date 01/22/2004
    Size 512 KB
    Boot Devices Floppy Disk, Hard Disk, CD-ROM, ATAPI ZIP, LS-120
    Capabilities Flash BIOS, Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD, BBS
    Supported Standards DMI, APM, ACPI, PnP
    Expansion Capabilities PCI, AGP, USB

    [ System ]

    System Properties:
    Universal Unique ID 2F862934-6D2411D8-8AC6000C-6E08065A
    Wake-Up Type Power Switch

    [ Motherboard ]

    Motherboard Properties:
    Manufacturer Intel Corporation
    Product D865PERL
    Version AAC27648-209
    Serial Number AZRL41009286

    [ Chassis ]

    Chassis Properties:
    Boot-Up State Safe
    Power Supply State Safe

    [ Memory Controller ]

    Memory Controller Properties:
    Error Detection Method 64-bit ECC
    Error Correction None
    Supported Memory Interleave 1-Way
    Current Memory Interleave 1-Way
    Supported Memory Speeds 70ns, 60ns
    Supported Memory Types SPM, FPM, EDO, Parity, ECC, SIMM, DIMM, BEDO, SDRAM
    Supported Memory Voltages 3.3V
    Maximum Memory Module Size 1024 MB
    Memory Slots 4

    [ Processors / Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 processor ]

    Processor Properties:
    Manufacturer Intel
    Version Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 processor
    Serial Number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    Asset Tag To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    Part Number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    External Clock 100 MHz
    Maximum Clock 3060 MHz
    Current Clock 1600 MHz
    Type Central Processor
    Voltage 3.3 V, 2.9 V
    Status Enabled
    Socket Designation J2E1

    [ Caches / None ]

    Cache Properties:
    Type Internal
    Status Enabled
    Operational Mode Varies with Memory Address
    Associativity 4-way Set-Associative
    Maximum Size 8 KB
    Installed Size 8 KB
    Supported SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
    Current SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
    Error Correction Single-bit ECC
    Socket Designation None

    [ Caches / None ]

    Cache Properties:
    Type Internal
    Status Enabled
    Operational Mode Varies with Memory Address
    Maximum Size 512 KB
    Installed Size 512 KB
    Supported SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
    Current SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
    Error Correction Single-bit ECC
    Socket Designation None

    [ Memory Modules / DIMM1 ]

    Memory Module Properties:
    Socket Designation DIMM1
    Type DIMM
    Installed Size 256 MB
    Enabled Size 256 MB

    [ Memory Modules / DIMM2 ]

    Memory Module Properties:
    Socket Designation DIMM2
    Type DIMM
    Installed Size Not Installed
    Enabled Size Not Installed

    [ Memory Modules / DIMM3 ]

    Memory Module Properties:
    Socket Designation DIMM3
    Type DIMM
    Installed Size 256 MB
    Enabled Size 256 MB

    [ Memory Modules / DIMM4 ]

    Memory Module Properties:
    Socket Designation DIMM4
    Type DIMM
    Installed Size Not Installed
    Enabled Size Not Installed

    [ Memory Devices / J5G1 ]

    Memory Device Properties:
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    Type Detail Synchronous
    Size 256 MB
    Speed 266 MHz
    Total Width 64-bit
    Data Width 64-bit
    Device Locator J5G1
    Bank Locator CHANNEL A DIMM0
    Manufacturer Manufacturer1
    Serial Number SerNum1
    Asset Tag AssetTagNum1
    Part Number PartNum1

    [ Memory Devices / J5G2 ]

    Memory Device Properties:
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    Type Detail Synchronous
    Speed 266 MHz
    Total Width 64-bit
    Data Width 64-bit
    Device Locator J5G2
    Bank Locator CHANNEL A DIMM1
    Manufacturer Manufacturer2
    Serial Number SerNum2
    Asset Tag AssetTagNum2
    Part Number PartNum2

    [ Memory Devices / J5H1 ]

    Memory Device Properties:
    Form Factor DIMM
    Type Detail Synchronous
    Size 256 MB
    Speed 266 MHz
    Total Width 64-bit
    Data Width 64-bit
    Device Locator J5H1
    Bank Locator CHANNEL B DIMM2
    Manufacturer Manufacturer3
    Serial Number SerNum3
    Asset Tag AssetTagNum3
    Part Number PartNum3

    [ Memory Devices / J5H2 ]

    Memory Device Properties:
    Form Factor DIMM
    Type Detail Synchronous
    Speed 266 MHz
    Total Width 64-bit
    Data Width 64-bit
    Device Locator J5H2
    Bank Locator CHANNEL B DIMM3
    Manufacturer Manufacturer4
    Serial Number SerNum4
    Asset Tag AssetTagNum4
    Part Number PartNum4

    [ System Slots / J5C1 ]

    System Slot Properties:
    Slot Designation J5C1
    Type AGP 4x
    Usage In Use
    Data Bus Width 32-bit
    Length Long

    [ System Slots / J6B2 ]

    System Slot Properties:
    Slot Designation J6B2
    Type PCI
    Usage Empty
    Data Bus Width 32-bit
    Length Long

    [ System Slots / J6B1 ]

    System Slot Properties:
    Slot Designation J6B1
    Type PCI
    Usage Empty
    Data Bus Width 32-bit
    Length Long

    [ System Slots / J7B1 ]

    System Slot Properties:
    Slot Designation J7B1
    Type PCI
    Usage In Use
    Data Bus Width 32-bit
    Length Long

    [ System Slots / J8B2 ]

    System Slot Properties:
    Slot Designation J8B2
    Type PCI
    Usage In Use
    Data Bus Width 32-bit
    Length Long

    [ System Slots / J8B1 ]

    System Slot Properties:
    Slot Designation J8B1
    Type PCI
    Usage In Use
    Data Bus Width 32-bit
    Length Long

    [ Port Connectors / PS2Mouse ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Mouse Port
    Internal Reference Designator J1A1
    Internal Connector Type None
    External Reference Designator PS2Mouse
    External Connector Type PS/2

    [ Port Connectors / Keyboard ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Keyboard Port
    Internal Reference Designator J1A1
    Internal Connector Type None
    External Reference Designator Keyboard
    External Connector Type PS/2

    [ Port Connectors / COM 1 ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Serial Port 16550A Compatible
    Internal Reference Designator J2A1
    Internal Connector Type None
    External Reference Designator COM 1
    External Connector Type DB-9 pin female

    [ Port Connectors / LPT1 ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Parallel Port ECP/EPP
    Internal Reference Designator J4A2
    Internal Connector Type None
    External Reference Designator LPT1
    External Connector Type DB-25 pin male

    [ Port Connectors / USB ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type USB
    Internal Reference Designator JA5A1
    Internal Connector Type None
    External Reference Designator USB
    External Connector Type USB

    [ Port Connectors / USB ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type USB
    Internal Reference Designator JA5A1
    Internal Connector Type None
    External Reference Designator USB
    External Connector Type USB

    [ Port Connectors / FireWire ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type FireWire (IEEE P1394)
    Internal Reference Designator J9E1
    Internal Connector Type None
    External Reference Designator FireWire
    External Connector Type 1394

    [ Port Connectors / USB ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type USB
    Internal Reference Designator J2A2
    Internal Connector Type None
    External Reference Designator USB
    External Connector Type USB

    [ Port Connectors / USB ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type USB
    Internal Reference Designator J2A2
    Internal Connector Type None
    External Reference Designator USB
    External Connector Type USB

    [ Port Connectors / RJ-45 Type ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Network Port
    Internal Reference Designator JA5A1
    Internal Connector Type None
    External Reference Designator RJ-45 Type
    External Connector Type RJ-45

    [ Port Connectors / Audio Mic In ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Audio Port
    Internal Reference Designator J4A1
    Internal Connector Type None
    External Reference Designator Audio Mic In
    External Connector Type Mini-jack (headphones)

    [ Port Connectors / Audio Line In ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Audio Port
    Internal Reference Designator J4A1
    Internal Connector Type None
    External Reference Designator Audio Line In
    External Connector Type Mini-jack (headphones)

    [ Port Connectors / Audio Line Out ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Audio Port
    Internal Reference Designator J4A1
    Internal Connector Type None
    External Reference Designator Audio Line Out
    External Connector Type Mini-jack (headphones)

    [ Port Connectors / J4B1 - +12V ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J4B1 - +12V
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J3J1 - FDD ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J3J1 - FDD
    Internal Connector Type On-Board Floppy
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J5J2 - PRI IDE ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J5J2 - PRI IDE
    Internal Connector Type On-Board IDE
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J5J1 - SEC IDE ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J5J1 - SEC IDE
    Internal Connector Type On-Board IDE
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J9B2 - CDIN ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Audio Port
    Internal Reference Designator J9B2 - CDIN
    Internal Connector Type On-Board Sound Input from CD-ROM
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J9B1 - AUX IN ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Audio Port
    Internal Reference Designator J9B1 - AUX IN
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J8J1 - FRONT PANEL HDR ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J8J1 - FRONT PANEL HDR
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J1F2 - CPU FAN ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J1F2 - CPU FAN
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J9H3 - FNT PNL ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J9H3 - FNT PNL
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J6J2 - FRONT CHASSIS FAN ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J6J2 - FRONT CHASSIS FAN
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J5B1 - REAR CHASSIS FAN ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J5B1 - REAR CHASSIS FAN
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J7H2 - BIOS CONFIG ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J7H2 - BIOS CONFIG
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J8A1 - FP AUDIO ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J8A1 - FP AUDIO
    Internal Connector Type Proprietary
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J7F1 - FRONT PANEL USB ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J7F1 - FRONT PANEL USB
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J2J1 - PS ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J2J1 - PS
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J6J3 - CH INTR ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J6J3 - CH INTR
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J9D1 - FireWire ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J9D1 - FireWire
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J9E1 - FireWire ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J9E1 - FireWire
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / J7H1 - SATA-0 ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator J7H1 - SATA-0
    External Connector Type None

    [ On-Board Devices / FireWire IEEE P1394 Controller ]

    On-Board Device Properties:
    Description FireWire IEEE P1394 Controller
    Type Ethernet


    [ Overclock ]

    CPU Properties:
    CPU Type Intel Pentium 4A
    CPU Alias Northwood, A80532
    CPU Stepping B0
    Engineering Sample No
    CPUID CPU Name Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.60GHz
    CPUID Revision 00000F24h

    CPU Speed:
    CPU Clock 1595.94 MHz (original: 1600 MHz)
    CPU Multiplier 16.0x
    CPU FSB 99.75 MHz (original: 100 MHz)
    Memory Bus 132.99 MHz

    CPU Cache:
    L1 Trace Cache 12K Instructions
    L1 Data Cache 8 KB
    L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, ATC, Full-Speed)

    Motherboard Properties:
    Motherboard ID 63-0100-000001-00101111-012204-iSPGDL_G$RL865006_BIOS Date: 01/22/04 10:36:47 Ver: 08.
    Motherboard Name Intel Rock Lake D865PERL (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DIMM)

    Chipset Properties:
    Motherboard Chipset Intel Springdale i865PE
    Memory Timings 2.5-3-3-6 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
    PAT Enabled

    SPD Memory Modules:
    DIMM1: Samsung M3 68L3223DTL-CB0 256 MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM (2.5-3-3-6 @ 133 MHz) (2.0-2-2-5 @ 100 MHz)
    DIMM3: Kingston KVR266X64C25/256 256 MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM (2.5-3-3-6 @ 133 MHz) (2.0-2-2-5 @ 100 MHz)

    BIOS Properties:
    System BIOS Date 01/22/04
    Video BIOS Date 04/06/15
    DMI BIOS Version RL86510A.86A.0071.P13.0401221036

    Graphics Processor Properties:
    DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
    Video Adapter ATI Radeon 9800 (R350)
    GPU Code Name R350 (AGP 8x 1002 / 4E49, Rev 00)
    GPU Clock 324 MHz (original: 325 MHz)
    Memory Clock 290 MHz (original: 290 MHz)

    Sensor Properties:
    Tsystem 30 °C (86 °F)
    Tcpu 36 °C (97 °F)
    Taux 31 °C (88 °F)
    Fcpu 2790 RPM
    Fcase 682 RPM
    Fpowersupply 3001 RPM
    Vcore 1.46 V
    V1.5 1.48 V
    Vio 3.32 V


    [ Power Management ]

    Power Management Properties:
    Current Power Source AC Line
    Battery Status No Battery
    Full Battery Lifetime Unknown
    Remaining Battery Lifetime Unknown


    [ Sensor ]

    Sensor Properties:
    Sensor Type National LM85 (SMBus 2Eh)
    Motherboard Name Intel D845GEBV2 / D845PEBT2 / D845PESV / D865PERL / D875PBZ

    Temperatures:
    Motherboard 31 °C (88 °F)
    CPU 36 °C (97 °F)
    Aux 32 °C (90 °F)
    MAXTOR 6L080J4 42 °C (108 °F)

    Cooling Fans:
    CPU 2796 RPM
    Chassis 685 RPM
    Power Supply 2995 RPM

    Voltage Values:
    CPU Core 1.46 V
    +1.5 V 1.46 V
    +3.3 V 3.33 V
    +5 V 5.08 V
    +12 V 12.06 V
    Debug Info V 70 7D C2 C3 C1 24 1F 20


    [ CPU ]

    CPU Properties:
    CPU Type Intel Pentium 4A, 1600 MHz (16 x 100)
    CPU Alias Northwood, A80532
    CPU Stepping B0
    Instruction Set x86, MMX, SSE, SSE2
    Original Clock 1600 MHz
    Engineering Sample No
    L1 Trace Cache 12K Instructions
    L1 Data Cache 8 KB
    L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, ATC, Full-Speed)

    CPU Physical Info:
    Package Type 478 Pin uPGA
    Package Size 3.50 cm x 3.50 cm
    Transistors 55 million
    Process Technology 6M, 0.13 um, CMOS, Cu, Low-K
    Die Size 146 mm2
    Core Voltage 1.475 - 1.55 V
    I/O Voltage 1.475 - 1.55 V
    Typical Power 38.7 - 89.0 W (depending on clock speed)
    Maximum Power 49 - 109 W (depending on clock speed)

    CPU Manufacturer:
    Company Name Intel Corporation
    Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/processor.htm

    CPU Utilization:
    CPU #1 100 %


    [ CPUID ]

    CPUID Properties:
    CPUID Manufacturer GenuineIntel
    CPUID CPU Name Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.60GHz
    CPUID Revision 00000F24h
    IA Brand ID 09h (Intel Pentium 4A)
    Platform ID 0Fh (Socket 478)
    IA CPU Serial Number Unknown
    HTT / CMP Units 0 / 0

    Instruction Set:
    64-bit x86 Extension Not Supported
    AMD 3DNow! Not Supported
    AMD 3DNow! Professional Not Supported
    AMD Enhanced 3DNow! Not Supported
    AMD Extended MMX Not Supported
    Cyrix Extended MMX Not Supported
    IA-64 Not Supported
    IA MMX Supported
    IA SSE Supported
    IA SSE 2 Supported
    IA SSE 3 Not Supported
    CLFLUSH Instruction Supported
    CMPXCHG8B Instruction Supported
    CMPXCHG16B Instruction Not Supported
    Conditional Move Instruction Supported
    FEMMS Instruction Not Supported
    MONITOR / MWAIT Instruction Not Supported

    CPUID Features:
    36-bit Page Size Extension Supported
    Advanced Cryptography Engine Not Supported
    Alternate Instruction Set Not Supported
    Automatic Clock Control Supported
    CPL Qualified Debug Store Not Supported
    Debug Trace Store Supported
    Debugging Extension Supported
    Enhanced SpeedStep Technology Not Supported
    Fast Save & Restore Supported
    Fast System Call Supported
    Hyper-Threading Technology Not Supported
    L1 Context ID Not Supported
    Local APIC On Chip Supported
    LongRun Not Supported
    LongRun Table Interface Not Supported
    Machine-Check Architecture Supported
    Machine-Check Exception Supported
    Memory Type Range Registers Supported
    Model Specific Registers Supported
    No-Execute Page Protection Not Supported
    Page Attribute Table Supported
    Page Global Extension Supported
    Page Size Extension Supported
    Pending Break Event Not Supported
    Physical Address Extension Supported
    Processor Duty Cycle Control Supported
    Processor Serial Number Not Supported
    Random Number Generator Not Supported
    Self-Snoop Supported
    Thermal Monitor Supported
    Thermal Monitor 2 Not Supported
    Time Stamp Counter Supported
    Virtual Mode Extension Supported

    CPUID Registers:
    CPUID 00000000 00000002-756E6547-6C65746E-49656E69
    CPUID 00000001 00000F24-00010809-00000000-3FEBFBFF
    CPUID 00000002 665B5001-00000000-00000000-007B7040
    CPUID 80000000 80000004-00000000-00000000-00000000
    CPUID 80000001 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
    CPUID 80000002 20202020-20202020-20202020-6E492020
    CPUID 80000003 286C6574-50202952-69746E65-52286D75
    CPUID 80000004 20342029-20555043-30362E31-007A4847
    MSR 00000017 000A-0000-0000-0000
    MSR 0000002C 0000-0000-1010-0010


    [ Motherboard ]

    Motherboard Properties:
    Motherboard ID 63-0100-000001-00101111-012204-iSPGDL_G$RL865006_BIOS Date: 01/22/04 10:36:47 Ver: 08.
    Motherboard Name Intel Rock Lake D865PERL

    Front Side Bus Properties:
    Bus Type Intel NetBurst
    Bus Width 64-bit
    Real Clock 100 MHz (QDR)
    Effective Clock 400 MHz
    Bandwidth 3200 MB/s

    Memory Bus Properties:
    Bus Type DDR SDRAM
    Bus Width 64-bit
    Real Clock 133 MHz (DDR)
    Effective Clock 267 MHz
    Bandwidth 2133 MB/s

    Chipset Bus Properties:
    Bus Type Intel Hub Interface
    Bus Width 8-bit
    Real Clock 67 MHz (QDR)
    Effective Clock 267 MHz
    Bandwidth 267 MB/s

    Motherboard Physical Info:
    CPU Sockets/Slots 1
    Expansion Slots 5 PCI, 1 AGP
    RAM Slots 4 DIMM
    Form Factor ATX
    Motherboard Size 240 mm x 300 mm
    Motherboard Chipset i865PE

    Motherboard Manufacturer:
    Company Name Intel Corporation
    Product Information http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/index.htm
    BIOS Download http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/genbios.htm


    [ Memory ]

    Physical Memory:
    Total 510 MB
    Used 344 MB
    Free 166 MB
    Utilization 67 %

    Swap Space:
    Total 2012 MB
    Used 361 MB
    Free 1651 MB
    Utilization 18 %

    Virtual Memory:
    Total 2523 MB
    Used 705 MB
    Free 1817 MB
    Utilization 28 %


    [ SPD ]

    [ DIMM1: Samsung M3 68L3223DTL-CB0 ]

    Memory Module Properties:
    Module Name Samsung M3 68L3223DTL-CB0
    Serial Number F2005E0Eh
    Manufacture Date Week 36 / 2002
    Module Size 256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
    Module Type Unbuffered
    Memory Type DDR SDRAM
    Memory Speed PC2100 (133 MHz)
    Module Width 64 bit
    Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
    Error Detection Method None
    Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh

    Memory Timings:
    @ 133 MHz 2.5-3-3-6 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
    @ 100 MHz 2.0-2-2-5 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)

    Memory Module Features:
    Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
    Auto-Precharge Not Supported
    Precharge All Not Supported
    Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
    Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
    Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
    On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
    Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
    Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
    Differential Clock Input Supported
    Redundant Row Address Not Supported

    Memory Module Manufacturer:
    Company Name Samsung
    Product Information http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/DRAM/index.htm

    [ DIMM3: Kingston KVR266X64C25/256 ]

    Memory Module Properties:
    Module Name Kingston KVR266X64C25/256
    Serial Number 281AF400h
    Manufacture Date Week 8 / 2002
    Module Size 256 MB (2 rows, 4 banks)
    Module Type Unbuffered
    Memory Type DDR SDRAM
    Memory Speed PC2100 (133 MHz)
    Module Width 64 bit
    Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
    Error Detection Method None
    Refresh Rate Normal (15.625 us), Self-Refresh

    Memory Timings:
    @ 133 MHz 2.5-3-3-6 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
    @ 100 MHz 2.0-2-2-5 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)

    Memory Module Features:
    Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
    Auto-Precharge Not Supported
    Precharge All Not Supported
    Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
    Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
    Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
    On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
    Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
    Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
    Differential Clock Input Supported
    Redundant Row Address Not Supported

    Memory Module Manufacturer:
    Company Name Kingston Technology Company, Inc.
    Product Information http://www.kingston.com/products/default.asp


    [ Chipset ]

    [ North Bridge: Intel Springdale i865PE ]

    North Bridge Properties:
    North Bridge Intel Springdale i865PE
    Revision / Stepping 02 / A2
    Package Type 932 Pin FC-BGA
    Package Size 3.75 cm x 3.75 cm
    Core Voltage 1.5 V
    In-Order Queue Depth 12

    Memory Controller:
    Type Dual Channel (128-bit)
    Active Mode Single Channel (64-bit)
    PAT Enabled

    Memory Timings:
    CAS Latency (CL) 2.5T
    RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 3T
    RAS Precharge (tRP) 3T
    RAS Active Time (tRAS) 6T

    Error Correction:
    ECC Not Supported
    ChipKill ECC Not Supported
    ECC Scrubbing Not Supported

    Memory Slots:
    DRAM Slot #1 256 MB (DDR SDRAM)
    DRAM Slot #2 256 MB (DDR SDRAM)

    AGP Controller:
    AGP Version 3.00
    AGP Status Enabled
    AGP Device ATI Radeon 9800 (R350)
    AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
    Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x
    Current AGP Speed 8x
    Fast-Write Supported, Enabled
    Side Band Addressing Supported, Enabled

    Chipset Manufacturer:
    Company Name Intel Corporation
    Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/chipsets.htm
    Driver Download http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/index.htm

    [ South Bridge: Intel 82801EB ICH5 ]

    South Bridge Properties:
    South Bridge Intel 82801EB ICH5
    Revision / Stepping C2 / A2/A3
    Package Type 460 Pin mBGA
    Package Size 3.1 cm x 3.1 cm
    Core Voltage 1.5 V

    Chipset Manufacturer:
    Company Name Intel Corporation
    Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/chipsets.htm
    Driver Download http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/index.htm


    [ BIOS ]

    BIOS Properties:
    BIOS Type AMI
    System BIOS Date 01/22/04
    Video BIOS Date 04/06/15

    BIOS Manufacturer:
    Company Name American Megatrends Inc.
    Product Information http://www.ami.com/amibios
    BIOS Upgrades http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/index.cfm?refererid=40

    Problems & Suggestions:
    Suggestion Are you looking for a BIOS Upgrade? Contact eSupport Today!


    [ Windows Video ]

    [ RADEON 9800 - Secondary ]

    Video Adapter Properties:
    Device Description RADEON 9800 - Secondary
    Adapter String RADEON 9800
    BIOS String BK-ATI VER008.017D.005.000
    Chip Type RADEON 9800 AGP (0x4E49)
    DAC Type Internal DAC(400MHz)
    Installed Drivers ati2dvag (6.14.10.6525)
    Memory Size 256 MB

    Video Adapter Manufacturer:
    Company Name ATI Technologies Inc.
    Product Information http://www.ati.com/products/gamer.html
    Driver Download http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html

    [ RADEON 9800 ]

    Video Adapter Properties:
    Device Description RADEON 9800
    Adapter String RADEON 9800
    BIOS String BK-ATI VER008.017D.005.000
    Chip Type RADEON 9800 AGP (0x4E49)
    DAC Type Internal DAC(400MHz)
    Installed Drivers ati2dvag (6.14.10.6525)
    Memory Size 256 MB

    Video Adapter Manufacturer:
    Company Name ATI Technologies Inc.
    Product Information http://www.ati.com/products/gamer.html
    Driver Download http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html


    [ PCI / AGP Video ]

    ATI Radeon 9800 (R350) Video Adapter
    ATI Radeon 9800 (R350) 3D Accelerator


    [ GPU ]

    Graphics Processor Properties:
    Video Adapter ATI Radeon 9800 (R350)
    GPU Code Name R350
    PCI Device 1002 / 4E49
    Transistors 117 million
    Process Technology 0.15u
    Bus Type AGP 8x
    Memory Size 256 MB
    GPU Clock 324 MHz (original: 325 MHz)
    RAMDAC Clock 400 MHz
    Pixel Pipelines 8
    TMU Per Pipeline 1
    Vertex Shaders 4 (v2.0)
    Pixel Shaders 1 (v2.0)
    DirectX Hardware Support DirectX v9.0
    Pixel Fillrate 2592 MPixel/s
    Texel Fillrate 2592 MTexel/s

    Memory Bus Properties:
    Bus Type DDR
    Bus Width 128-bit
    Real Clock 290 MHz (DDR) (original: 290 MHz)
    Effective Clock 580 MHz
    Bandwidth 9280 MB/s

    Graphics Processor Manufacturer:
    Company Name ATI Technologies Inc.
    Product Information http://www.ati.com/products/gamer.html
    Driver Download http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html

    ATI Registers:
    ati-00F8 10000000
    ati-0140 00000075
    ati-0154 F0000000
    ati-0158 31420042
    ati-4018 00010017
    ati-CLKIND-0A 01302B04
    ati-CLKIND-0B 48001600
    ati-CLKIND-0C 0400BC30
    ati-CLKIND-0D 00DF8002
    ati-CLKIND-0E 0400BC00
    ati-CLKIND-0F 00000000
    ati-CLKIND-12 AA021212


    [ Monitor ]

    [ Gateway EV900 ]

    Monitor Properties:
    Monitor Name Gateway EV900
    Monitor ID GWY8883
    Model GATEWAY EV900
    Monitor Type 19" CRT
    Manufacture Date Week 43 / 1997
    Serial Number 743117070
    Max. Visible Display Size 36 cm x 27 cm (17.7")
    Picture Aspect Ratio 4:3
    Horizontal Frequency 30 - 95 kHz
    Vertical Frequency 50 - 160 Hz
    Maximum Resolution 1600 x 1200
    Gamma 2.72
    DPMS Mode Support Suspend, Active-Off

    Supported Video Modes:
    640 x 480 160 Hz
    800 x 600 150 Hz
    1024 x 768 115 Hz
    1152 x 864 100 Hz
    1280 x 1024 85 Hz
    1600 x 1200 75 Hz

    Monitor Manufacturer:
    Company Name Gateway, Inc.
    Product Information http://www.gateway.com
    Driver Download http://support.gateway.com


    [ Desktop ]

    Desktop Properties:
    Device Technology Raster Display
    Resolution 1024 x 768
    Color Depth 32-bit
    Color Planes 1
    Font Resolution 96 dpi
    Pixel Width / Height 36 / 36
    Pixel Diagonal 51
    Vertical Refresh Rate 60 Hz

    Desktop Effects:
    Combo-Box Animation Enabled
    Drop Shadow Effect Enabled
    Flat Menu Effect Enabled
    Font Smoothing Enabled
    Full Window Dragging Enabled
    Gradient Window Title Bars Enabled
    Hide Menu Access Keys Enabled
    Hot Tracking Effect Enabled
    Icon Title Wrapping Enabled
    List-Box Smooth Scrolling Enabled
    Menu Animation Enabled
    Menu Fade Effect Enabled
    Minimize/Restore Animation Enabled
    Mouse Cursor Shadow Enabled
    Selection Fade Effect Enabled
    ShowSounds Accessibility Feature Disabled
    ToolTip Animation Enabled
    ToolTip Fade Effect Enabled
    Windows Plus! Extension Disabled

    Problems & Suggestions:
    Problem At least 85 Hz vertical refresh rate is recommended for classic displays.


    [ Multi-Monitor ]

    \\.\DISPLAY1 Yes (0,0) (1024,768)


    [ Windows Audio ]

    midi-out.0 0001 0066 SB Audigy 2 Synth A [BC00]
    midi-out.1 0001 0066 SB Audigy 2 Sw Synth [BC00]
    midi-out.2 0001 0066 SB Audigy 2 Synth B [BC00]
    midi-out.3 0001 0066 Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth
    mixer.0 0001 0068 SB Audigy 2 Audio [BC00]
    mixer.1 FFFF FFFF USB IMAGING DEVICE
    wave-in.0 FFFF FFFF USB IMAGING DEVICE
    wave-in.1 0001 0065 SB Audigy 2 Audio [BC00]
    wave-out.0 0001 0064 SB Audigy 2 Audio [BC00]


    [ PCI / PnP Audio ]

    Creative SB Audigy 2 (WDM) [NoDB] PCI
    Intel 82801EB ICH5 - AC'97 Audio Controller PCI


    [ Windows Storage ]
  • sledgy
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    sledgy polycounter lvl 18
    I'd recommend at least another 256M RAM...this will make a big difference coming from 512M to 768M in XP. The only other thing I'd say could go up on a budget is the CPU. You may just want to save that money and put it towards a new mobo/CPU combo since this mobo will only support the P4 Northwood. More RAM will have the most impact in this rig though.

    BTW if your 7200rpm drive is not your master, switch em around so that you're running your OS from it. The 160G 5400rpm is perfect as a storage drive. There's no need to have a 7200rpm drive when you're playing music or video from it at <1MB/s.

    hth.
  • Slayerjerman
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    Slayerjerman polycounter lvl 18
    Yup, switch the drives around and add another 512mb ram and that'll help alot.

    Other than that, see what cpu your board can max out at.
  • Wrath
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    Wrath polycounter lvl 18
    I could get a couple of sticks of 512mb PC3200 ram pretty cheap. Would I be better off upgrading to 1 gig of PC3200 ram (possibly higher quality/matched pairs) or adding another gig of PC2100 ram to get a gig and a half of slightly slower ram? If I should go with PC3200 ram, would I be better of getting a single 1gig stick, or 2 512 sticks?

    Upgrading to a new MB/CPU isn't an option right now (would also require new RAM), but my mother board can go as high as a 3.4GHz P4 cpu, which would over double my CPU speed. Depending on what revision of the MB I have, Intel's site says it may support up to a 3.4GHz P4 extreme edition. I have no idea what that is, but it appears to be a P4 cpu with a 2mb cache compared to my 1.6GHz's measly 512k cache. It is grossly expensive though. The price break seems to be right around 3.0 GHz, so if I were to upgrade the CPU, that's probably what I'd pick up.

    I believe the 7200rpm drive is already my OS drive, which is contrary to what I originally thought. (I may need to triple check my jumper configurations) The board does have Serial ATA IDE interfaces with RAID 0 and RAID 1 support. Again, this is new territory for me and all I know is that format is newer and faster, but I have no way of judging if it would be significantly faster enough to warrent investing in a SATA hard drive compared to memory or CPU upgrade.

    thanks for the help everyone.
  • MoP
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    MoP polycounter lvl 18
    If you're going for the RAM, definitely get the PC3200. The speed difference is worth it. I don't think there's all that much difference between getting a 1gb stick, or two 512 sticks, probably just the price. If you did just get a single stick, though, it'd mean more room for expansion later...
    Going up to a 3GHz P4 sounds like a good plan too. My current machine just recently got upgraded to 3GHz P4, with 1gig of PC3200 RAM, actually, it runs everything very nicely indeed...

    And yeah, what those guys said about the hard drives. If you do get a new one, and your motherboard can support SATA, go for that route - if nothing else, they're a hell of a lot easier to install, and the cables take up MUCH less space inside the case than the standard fat IDE ones...
  • Ryno
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    Ryno polycounter lvl 18
    OK, I may be talking out of my ass, but here's what I've been told about harddrives:

    1. Don't get a PCI card to switch to Serial ATA. The PCI but is slower than the ATA interface, and data will bottleneck.

    2. The data on a standard ATA chain will go as fast as the SLOWEST drive on that chain.

    3. Always set your fastest drive to the Master, and make sure this is where your OS and apps are installed.

    I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
  • shotgun
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    shotgun polycounter lvl 20
    I dont understand what is wrong with thai workers.
    Sure, they might plug the wrong cable to the wrong place in some times... I mean, sure, they may rape your dog and cook it, he was a dirty old bastards anyway, right? so sure, maybe they'll kidnapp one of your chips, so what? who needs those bitches..

    I'm giving you free start up here: thai workers. Take it, or get the hell out of here and do us all a favor huh?
    Get a job!
    bum.
  • MoP
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    MoP polycounter lvl 18
    Ryno, you're not talking out of your ass, but Shotgun here sure is! wink.gif
  • shotgun
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    shotgun polycounter lvl 20
    Hey.. if asses could talk - we wouldn't be sitting here talking, now would we..?

    btw steady: yes, we do have a lot of those thai workers taking over the farming employment. They work cheap, they was hard, they have no teeth but they will eat your dog if you let them.

    It's thai workers.

    Many Israelies go to thailand after the mandatory army to release the steam. It makes perfect sense, everyone get their brains fucked up when they are drafted, and then once they are done they go to thailand and reverse it, double fucking it up the other way with drugs.

    When you think of that and of how crazy the people who do that must be, it explains a few things about Israel. I'll tell you that.
  • mr.toast
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    mr.toast polycounter lvl 18
    got a question, my computer as of late has been displaying certain websites slow as a mofo (like soapcentral.com which i always check up on), i got a 1.8ghz celeron proccessor with 256 mb ram, i used to be able to to surf the web very quick but now its slow, anyway of reversing the problem without resorting to a reformat, i clean out adware and spyware every week, as well as cleaning up redundant files using winoptimizer, and i defrag every other week
  • Ctrl+Awesome
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    Ctrl+Awesome polycounter lvl 18
    [ QUOTE ]
    ... I suggest ECC ram but I don't know if your board supports it.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    eh, ECC is nice, but unless your computer is setup as a server or an highly sensitive accountant machine at a credit card company, i don't really recommend it. I do recommend Registered memory as opposed to unbuffered, but ECC is a feature that is rarely appropriately used, especially for us. It's not really going to do much but cost more and give a barely noticeable performance hit due to the constant code checking.
  • Moz
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    Moz polycounter lvl 18
    Off-topic

    That was the longest scroll of my life, I forgot what I was going to say because of it.
  • Wrath
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    Wrath polycounter lvl 18
    1. I wouldn't need a PCI card, my motherboard has onboard SATA controllers, If I opted to go that route that is.

    2. Would this mean it might be better to put my slower drive on my secondary IDE with my CD-ROM and leave my primary drive by itself?

    After some further investigation, I think RAM might be my best route. While playing CoH tonight, I tab'd over into windows to see how much memory I was using and it was spiking over 650mb, which caused my system to start paging. Even now with nothing up but IE, task manager claims it's using over 269mb of memory...so XP seems to be really crappy about freeing up memory again.
  • Moz
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    Moz polycounter lvl 18
    XP hates RAM because it stole it's date for the prom and has never forgiven RAM.

    Honest to god.

    This is why I use win2000.
  • KDR_11k
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    KDR_11k polycounter lvl 18
    I have 176M used with Opera running and Opera itself is taking ~30.

    Also, I've heard that putting your virtual memory on a RAMDisk will increase performance, as insane as it sounds. Windows always wants to page stuff and complained that my virtual memory was too small when my physical was still less than 50% full.
  • Slayerjerman
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    Slayerjerman polycounter lvl 18
    Go for the 3ghz your board supports and extra ram.
  • Ctrl+Awesome
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    Ctrl+Awesome polycounter lvl 18
    does anyone here know about how to set your virtual memory to optimum settings? I don't know the first thing about it, but i'd like to learn.
  • sledgy
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    sledgy polycounter lvl 18
    SATA drives will be a bit faster but not by much unless you installed 2 or more in a RAID stripe which roughly doubles the speed of the I/O. The drawback is the cost of course, but also that if one drive fails, the whole volume does too. RAID-5 is a good way around this because one of the drives serves as sort of a backup but the drawback is that it takes at least 3 drives.

    XP is a big fat pig when it comes to RAM and if you can bump up your CPU that will be a big hitter too. Another 512M would do wonders for your rig. I noticed that going from 512M to 768M on one machine made a world of difference - i was able to run Max, PS, DP3D, a browser and Winamp comfortably unless I started opening really big PS files. On another machine there's 2G and the only time I see it starting to chunk down is when I have 15-20 apps open.

    That's a great idea KDR to make a RAM drive and use it for the swap file. Windows just seems to want to page stuff to the HDD regardless of how much RAM you have and that would be a good way to force it to use the RAM.
  • KDR_11k
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    KDR_11k polycounter lvl 18
    You can also have two drives as a RAID 1 to increase data security but obviously you'll have less disk space then. Generally RAIDs are only recommended for mission critical systems, though. You won't need redundancy or ECC in your average work system. A RAID won't replace backups no matter what.

    Personally I didn't see much difference between 512MB and 1024 but then I'm using 2k.

    CTRL+A: It's recommended to set the virtual memory to twice your RAM size (both min and max so the page file doesn't resize and fragments the disk), to me 256MB seem to be enough (Win2k + 512MB) though. Just make sure you give it a fixed size.
  • Wrath
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    Wrath polycounter lvl 18
    Well, I've got a matched pair of 512mb Corsair PC3200 sticks on the way and today I ordered a WD 7200 SATA drive. I was going to wait, but I couldn't pass up $56 for an 80gig drive. It had a five star rating from hundreds of customers, so I feel pretty hopeful that it's not utter garbage.

    Gonna have to wait a bit on the CPU upgrade, but I think the RAM alone will solve most of my problems. The one thing I'm not sure about is the tech notes for my motherboard say that for DDR400 ram the CPU's system bus frequency has to be 800mhz, where as mine (1.6GHz) is only 400mhz. I'm assuming the ram will still work, only clocking at a lower speed until I upgrade my CPU. I'm also assuming that PC3200 ram can be used with PC2100 ram, again...functioning at the lower speed. I'm making a lot of assumptions here, hope it doesn't bite me in the booty.
  • frosty
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    frosty polycounter lvl 18
    I am doing the same with the pc ram too Wrath on my two 128's and one 256 and it is working ok for me.


    You might also run msconfig from run line to see what progs are loading and hogging memory on startup. I had trouble running PS at first, I reinstalled win98 se and then the first prog I reinstalled was win 98se and then my other progs, games and so forth and PS runs fine now. Shrugs.

    Also might set your memory allocation - swap file - from windows default control to 2.5 times the amount of ram you. have.

    And maybe run scandisk and defrag or use Norton speeddisk which is way faster then ms tools.
  • Wrath
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    Wrath polycounter lvl 18
    Frosty, where in Colorado are you?
  • frosty
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