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Green peace causes a rukus in the UK.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-4646-1487741,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-4646-1487741,00.html
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But they were set upon by traders, most of whom were under the age of 25. They were kicking and punching men and women indiscriminately, a photographer said. It was really ugly, but Greenpeace did not fight back.
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Its rather disgusting that anyone roots for those traders. If you love that, then jump back to the early 20th century and join in a union busting organization. Or in the 60's with the white supremecy groups (and police) who beat down protestors.
They illegally entered a private building where nothing illegal was going on only to commit an illegal act and they are astonished they got their asses kicked for it.
YAY!
They were not protesting the SWAT teams means for making a living.
You get in the way of a bunch of people trying to earn their living, cost them their days take, there is a good chance this will happen every time. You wanna protest against a corporation thats one thing, but they found out quickly that this was different.
They had it coming.
as it is, every jobsworth bullyboy in a hi-vis vest has taken great pleasure in kicking in every slightly retarded, speech impedimented dreadlocked poshoid they come across, just on the offchance they might manage to clock that swampy tit
I swear, some of you have the mentality of living in the wild west. Last time I looked outside, I didn't see a stagecoach.
Prick.
Im not really saying Im suprised that they got their asses kicked, and Duke, of course, I totally am not surprised that you get in the way of people trying to make a living, and you get your ass kicked.
But what sickens me is that y'all actually find it amusing when you consider what the ultimate purpose of Greenpeace is.
sorry mishra, what exactly are you expecting a protest to be if not an inconvenience and annoyance? A polite, genial request? Who the frigging fuck is going to listen to that?
if they presented a clear, concise and damn good reason as to why these companies were evil, and pound a way to get it to the people, people would listen.
"no i like greenpeace, they have noble intentions."
"bunch of cunts"
WTF? Your opinion of Greenpeace is ambigous to say the very least Mishra. Wait a minute, why do I care about your opinion? Fuck this thread. It's going nowhere fast.
"Breaking news : greenpeace release a clear and concise statement of intent! Relax while a vaguely attractive news anchor sits back and reads it to you". Not gonna happen.
let me clear what i mean, i like greenpeace, but not the people in greenpeace. does that make sense?
yep, i read that message just fine. And i'm hundreds of miles away from london. D'you get it?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1489955,00.html
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The strongest evidence yet that global warming has been triggered by human activity has emerged from a major study of rising temperatures in the worlds oceans.
The present trend of warmer sea temperatures, which have risen by an average of half a degree Celsius (0.9F) over the past 40 years, can be explained only if greenhouse gas emissions are responsible, new research has revealed.
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[The study] found that natural variation in the Earths climate, or changes in solar activity or volcanic eruptions, which have been suggested as alternative explanations for rising temperatures, could not explain the data collected in the real world. Models based on man-made emissions of greenhouse gases, however, matched the observations almost precisely.
"What absolutely nailed it was the greenhouse model," Dr Barnett told the American Association for the Advancement of Science conference in Washington. Two models, one designed in Britain and one here in the US, got it almost exactly. We were stunned. They did it so well it was almost unbelieveable."
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I hope Greenpeace takes this as a lesson learn and are willing to get thier asses kicked more offten. It really helps to turn those they are protesting agaist, more into monsters that everyone can hate. Everyone loves to hate a bully that picks on the pacifist, they can sure use this as nother trick in thier deck. If they are willing to go that far they are hero's in my book. There are people who have taken beatings for less.
That made me so happy. Petro Traders 1 Greenpeace 0. LOL!
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You are a sad individual.
I'm now going to stay out of here, because this pisses me off more than it should.
Greenpeace can be annoying at times, but when they keep it civil in situations such as these, you can't do much more but respect their resolve.
And if it's proof you're looking for: there's plenty of proof allready, but unlike what i hear ("i'd listen to it then!") nobody gives half a shit.
from what I can tell via reading threads like this on different forums, it usually ends up in two camps: the US & Canadians screaming that global warming doesn't exist and practically everyone else getting their teeth kicked in.
yes climates change, over millions of years. But hey climate change by human intervention is very apparent, locking heat into the earth is only going to cause trouble.
I for one am on greenpeace's side, even if they do end up doing daft things at least they are trying to shake up the "old boys network"
(Natural resource to electricity, Electricity used to convert atmosphere into hydrogen, hydrogen converted in car).
Im a fan of electric myself. It's been covered under since the fuel companies have more interest in hydrogen (because they can still retain control).
(Natural resource to electricity. Electricity to car [given the power loss in battery conversion].)
However, it seems at times they have the collective intelligence of plankton.
They were trespassing, and disrupting a private business. Just because their intentions were noble, doesn't mean that their actions were.
amaging the hearing of everyone in the room and committing crime.
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"oh my gentle virgin ears...those roughians and their law breaking!"
I'm not a tree hugger by any means, but I have as much respect for the traders bullshit as I do the tree huggers. their both guilty of crimes. I think battery oversteps some strained typanic membranes (gimmie a fuckin break!)
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Sometimes the law can't address issues that need to be addressed. So I see nothing wrong with trespassing if they know they will be arrested.
They know they will be caught and prosecuted by the law. Not by some overzealous yuppies wanting to take their frustrations out.
Things like biodiesel, ethanol, and electric cars are all available and feasible right now. My car runs on 100% biodiesel (basically just vegetable oil) and loves it. Ethanol from switchgrass is an incredibly efficient use of land, and restores soil fertility to boot.
Sometimes the law can't address issues that need to be addressed. So I see nothing wrong with trespassing if they know they will be arrested.
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Sorry, but there IS something wrong with it.
Laws, no matter how much one disagrees with them, or disregards them for their "greater purpose" are there there, and should be respected. We don't live in an anarchistic society. There are proper channels for making change, and breaking laws is not one of them.
As strongly as I feel about the environment, and believe me, I am INVOLVED in making changes for the betterment of it, I feel even more strongly about respecting and abiding by the laws that govern the land.
Like I said, "the collective intelligence of plankton". They are lucky they only got "beaten up". Somebody could have been shot, pulling a stunt like that, say by maybe an overzealous security guard, etc.
No. Sometimes breaking the law is the only means of correctly fighting a injustice. Again, compromise which would inherently favor those making the money (ie the petrol) is not a compromise.
there was a report issued in the city i live in(Houston) which highlighted the fact that many of the petrochemical companies in the area were falsely reporting how much chemicals were being dumped in the air, those assholes are breaking the law and unlike the Greenpeace people, their law breaking kills people but since its indirect and these assholes have bought off every politican in town theres no outrage in town.
The whole "Dont mess with Texas" ad campaign should be renamed "dont mess with texas,unless your industry.
around town we have many nicknames for all the little towns affected by this type of crap in the air.
League City=Cancer city ,cancer rates there are way above the national average
Pasedena= Stinkadena,theres a constant horrific smell in that city,no surprise they have high cancer rates too.
Wheres the ass kicking for all those petrolchemical pricks breaking the laws polluting peoples neighborhoods which lead to many people suffering and dieing from cancer while on the other hand the rich affluent areas they live in are petrochemical plant free.
I may not like their methods but they are actually fighting to make our lives better.
on the other hand those richers who defend the practices of that industry only really care about their bottom line.
I agree with oxy on respect for the law,some laws must be broken to bring to light bullshit when it occurs.
Next time you wake up in the middle of the night and find somebody rummaging through your house, you let me know.