definition of "belittling" a women?
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hey guys
Just wanted to ask whats your definition of belittling a women,just we had comedy old event at the supermarket I work at today that brings it into question.
I mean a mate,me and my supervisor were in the corner of the shop chatting about a couple of girls we met down the pub and how there is no way tehy could be 31 and 28 years of age and single mums when they look no older than 21....in this convo the words "well they both had nice arses" were used when suddenly.... A women approached and said "I have walked round this shop since coming by you and you 3 have still not moved,also i belive what you are talking about is inappropriate and is "belittling" women"....Caine (my supervisor) then said "I don't think its any of your buissness what we are talking about and nor do you have any right to tell us what to do".....she then raises her voice to the point you can hear it down the other end of the shop and generally causes a major scene and is really in my supervisor's face..."well im paying your wages" she bellows..and on and on she goes....eventurally she asks to see the manager (andy) and so my mate and me get back to work while Caine takes her to the manager,so on the row goes the manger takes both sides of the story and says "yes ill see to it,it doesn't happen again"...she is then shown the door. manger andy being the type of bloke he is naturally laughs his head off as does caine.Cos this women has jsut made sucha fool of herself.
Now the best bit is,afew minutes later another member of staff came up to us and told us the women acturally "bats for the other team"....What the whole thing came down to was the phrase "they both had great arses" and this particular women found it very insulting...now I might not have much exsperience with girls but isn't "they have a nice arse" a compliment??
Too bad she didn't come afew minutes earlier,when the topic of convosation was internet pornography LOL.
just another day on the shopfloor
john
Just wanted to ask whats your definition of belittling a women,just we had comedy old event at the supermarket I work at today that brings it into question.
I mean a mate,me and my supervisor were in the corner of the shop chatting about a couple of girls we met down the pub and how there is no way tehy could be 31 and 28 years of age and single mums when they look no older than 21....in this convo the words "well they both had nice arses" were used when suddenly.... A women approached and said "I have walked round this shop since coming by you and you 3 have still not moved,also i belive what you are talking about is inappropriate and is "belittling" women"....Caine (my supervisor) then said "I don't think its any of your buissness what we are talking about and nor do you have any right to tell us what to do".....she then raises her voice to the point you can hear it down the other end of the shop and generally causes a major scene and is really in my supervisor's face..."well im paying your wages" she bellows..and on and on she goes....eventurally she asks to see the manager (andy) and so my mate and me get back to work while Caine takes her to the manager,so on the row goes the manger takes both sides of the story and says "yes ill see to it,it doesn't happen again"...she is then shown the door. manger andy being the type of bloke he is naturally laughs his head off as does caine.Cos this women has jsut made sucha fool of herself.
Now the best bit is,afew minutes later another member of staff came up to us and told us the women acturally "bats for the other team"....What the whole thing came down to was the phrase "they both had great arses" and this particular women found it very insulting...now I might not have much exsperience with girls but isn't "they have a nice arse" a compliment??
Too bad she didn't come afew minutes earlier,when the topic of convosation was internet pornography LOL.
just another day on the shopfloor
john
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now I might not have much exsperience with girls but isn't "they have a nice arse" a compliment??
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not in america. we say ass, or butt, or booty depending on the context. women here will wear cheek high tight shorts and a thong, but if you tell them they have a nice ass, they'll smack you for looking. kinda defeats the purpose of wearing revealing clothing if you don't want people staring at you. I was almost fired from my supermarket job years ago for the same situation. it's difficult to work during the summer months. get back to work.
i find this very odd. i can't say, "hey, you've got great tits" without them going "UGH GET AWAY YOU PERVO" or however you say that in spanish. it's meant as a compliment ladies.
It is kind of ironic that this basic instinct is forcibly repressed in many modern day societies, and that even mentioning that someone is sexually appealing is so taboo. It just makes no sense.
And I bet your beligerent little lesbian would've liked their asses too, and would've mentioned it to her buddies.
"well im paying your wages"
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Oh really? I could really use a raise, then
Was gonan say soemthing like "well you best start buying more stuff if thats the case,we're being paid peanuts so you can't exspect to be served by anything other than a monkey"
Damn!
Really though, there are busybodies everywhere you go, she was just buttin in where she didn't belong. Most women, anywhere you are, even if they were offended by what you were saying would have let it go. This one had a sizable chip on her shoulder!
I don't egt it either....I dont think we're being rude, or crass....just honest and complimentary.
-R
Personally, I would have apoligized for being rude, then called her a bitch behind her back when she was far enouph to not hear....y'know the Eddie Haskle routine, for those of us who remember 'Leave it to Beaver'.....in reruns of course.
I can't expose my testicles in public
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well we should! it's the new cleavage baby! Mens Liberation!!
I can't expose my testicles in public
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lol says who? Here's the deal:
Women wear revealing clothing to be looked at. But once you talk about it, they get a cocky sense that they own you, and like you don't deserve to be looking, which is total bullshit. They just enjoy the powertrip. Back in the day it was the same as you are now, but now, with my current attitude, I can walk up to most random women and convince them to tell me the size of their totters. (I actually am very respectful to women, I've only done that once and it was for a good reason). As long as you don't back down, they won't give you shit. Don't worry about the "feminists", because they are just mad that men control the world. Just be a manly man, bust out some beef jerky with a smile, and don't back down.
By the way, you should go to Hooters more often, because they won't give you shit there for anything less than coping a feel.
The definition of belitting a woman is whatever they decide it is that week, and you better be paying attention as next week it will be something else!
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AHAHAH never a truer word uttered Ror.
they are just mad that men control the world...
you should go to Hooters more often, because they won't give you shit there for anything less than coping a feel.
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Hooters! That was a culture shock. A small building where it's ok to stare at the waitress' tits. I was confused. And you think about it. Men find a woman, get married to them, have the kids, work long hours to feed them, come straight home, die an old man listening to the bitch. Women rule world. Behind a strong leader, is an even more powerful wife.
Alex
However. At QuakeCon last year, there were two chicks prancing around in cut-off t-shirts and the absolute shortest of spandex shorts, as part of some merchandis dealer's convention promo. Their asscheeks were clearly showing, right below the name of the mousepad merchant who had paid them to wear said shorts. These two were 'booth whores' in the most flagrant sense. Were they already 'belittled'? Some would say so.
So, as (witnesses) Poop and Miles H. and I were standing around talking in the main area, these girls and their crew happened to linger near us while passing by. My selective ethics clicked into gear, and considering the above info, I decided to STARE. I intentionally broke off conversation in the middle of a sentence and took in an unrepentant eyeful of their two attractive female behinds. For a good and obvious sixty seconds or so. I figured, I'm supposed to look, right?
/jzero
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You should hear Kevin Bloody Wilson sing about women, it probably qualifies as some of the nastiest and funniest uncouth language to come out of the recording industry. In one of his recent live concerts he had women yelling requests for the rude songs and then singing along with him, so it goes to show the prudes might be fighting but they aren't winning.
as for the prudish definition, I drew my comparative analogy from the point of view discussed by Bronco in his first post. Since you asked, I'll offer that perhaps a prude is someone who might have a tendency toward drawing illegitimate conclusions and taking offense where none was intended?
How many of you would get offended if you overheard some women talking about a guy having a cute butt? I wouldn't care in the least.
Funny you mention working in a supermarket though, when I worked at one, the produce manager would constantly tell coworkers about wanting to get oral from the assistant manager of the store, meanwhile a lot of the 30+ guys in meat department were trying to get my gf (now ex) to sit on their lap or join them in the meat cooler. Your story sounds downright tame in comparison.
Alex
I think that I'll start wearing one as a social experiment. When I hear the women talking about my crotch, I'll bitch about sexual harassment, and how their conversation is offensive and belittling to me.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
The Russian?
...this story made my day today.
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Oxy:- Unfortunatily the nearest I know to forum that has a 50-50 male/female pressence would proberly be the AOL message boards,now i won't go into detail what I think about them or id get myself banned
Rage:- LOL as I said,the joys of working in a supermarket
Back to the subject,having thought about it some more i still really can't see the problem,though I guess maybe maybe there could be an element of jelousy....in that there 2 girls at the pub were Hotties and the women that blew a fuse can be best described as a missing umpa-lumpa from the original charlie and the choco factory movie.Dunno though, alternativly it could just be what evryone says at work and the women just happens to have a loose bolt or 2 somewhere and the general agreement is she was the one out of order and is part of the group taht caine has come up with known as "The man-hating Dykes".
though strangly enough another mate whos back from uni for the weekend and we went to teh same pub and they a disco tech on,I pointed out 1 of the 2 girls in question and he said and I quote "She has the body of a 21 year old but the face of a 50 year old,a paper bag might come into play here".
Now that is belittling a women.....
john