Skanker's Medic WIP.

Faucet

This is based on a wonderful concept created by Skanker that can be found in gauss' electrobank. http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/gauss/site/electrobank/skc7.jpg

I've been spending a couple hours on it every now and again since July and it's finally starting to come together. Eventually I'll be using this to generate normal maps on a game model.

Anyway, when I look at it there's something that doesn't seem right. It doesn't seem to convey the feeling from the concept very well. I've tried changing proportions and adjusting things here and there, but I can't seem to get it right.

Any suggestions?

ElysiumGX

Cool! Clothing wrinkles everywhere! New trend. Very nice work on this. Zbrush? From this angle, her lips and eyes look a bit out of proportion. It would help her to have more character in her face before beginning to texture.

Slash

I cant really put my finger on it either.. but I THINK that the shoulders are slightly too broad, and the head a bit large.

JBoskma

At this moment her shoulders are too big indeed.
I know the concept has wide shoulders but only in the suit. In your model, the shoulders of her real body also are coming out under her suit shoulder. Those should be under the suit shoulders.

John Warner

cute! nice job.. i'm not sure what to think about the face tho. not really liking it.. what to suggest to change it i really coudln't tell you, i just don't find it to appealing. maybe if i saw your refference.

good job on the body nice detial.

skankerzero

HAH!

That's too cool!

Thanks alot BF!

Anywho, I'd say right now, it's the face that's off. The shoulders appear to be an optical illusion due to the angle of the cloth vs. the angle of the bicep.

Can you post up some wires of the face? Some orthos would be cool.

KDR_11k

The face kinda reminds me of Dr. Frankenstein as he is portrayed in Van Helsing...

JKMakowka

Wires & close ups would help... but so far I agree with what was said above, shoulders seem to be quite broad and the face needs work (exspecially the mouth but also the general proportions).

@ElysiumGX that is definitly not Zbrush; Zbrush has a certain kind of look, that only looks good if really well done (just my oppinion about the Zbrush hype ).

Faucet

Thanks for all the posts! I've been messing with the body forever, but after reading all your posts I totally agree the face needs to be changed. I'm thinking of thinning it out a lot. The face doesn't seem to match the body type at all. I'm also thinking of killing the hair and redoing it.

The shoulders seem to match my reference and are actually thinner than the three heads wide rule. I think since the image I posted is a viewport render without shadows, the shoulders don't seem to go under the outfit properly. Here's an older render with a shadow.

http://www.brainfaucet.com/temp/medicE.jpg

If thinning out the face doesn't help I'll definately try pushing in the shoulders a bit and maybe flaring the outfit's shoulders out a bit more to help separate them from the actual shoulders. Doing this may not fit the ref, but if it looks better it looks better.

A good friend of mine said the clothing was tighter in the model than the concept. If shifting the shoulders and/or redoing the face doesn't help, I'm going to bite the bullet and redo the wrinkles in the dress. I really want to be happy with this model before calling it "done."

I'll probably posts some updates tomorrow or something. Got to get some work done tonight, though.

Thanks again for all the help!

I know I used a face for reference, but I can't seem to figure out what picture I used.

Here are some wires:
http://www.brainfaucet.com/temp/medicF_bod_wire.gif
http://www.brainfaucet.com/temp/medicF_face_wire.gif


ElysiumGX : I don't have Z-Brush and I'm not sure I'd want to try doing wrinkles with it, though I'd definately love to pick it up for help with faces and stuff.

JKMakowka

I think tightening the dress right under the armpits and having that other piece of cloth (the stuff that goes down to the ring) fold aroung the arm like a tight t-shirt, should be closer to the concept and help to get rid of this "broad shoulder look".

The body is really well done... only the thumb looks a bit strange, and the boots are a bit too flat.

Concerning the face... well I think the distance between the mouth and the nose is too big, and that the nose points a bit upwards makes the distance look even bigger.
The upper lip could be bigger, and the mouth itself is usually not so strait (yours is even curved upward a bit, which looks slightly 'retarded' if not combined with a strong smiling look on the rest of the face).
-Make it look like a very flat 'M'

You should also fix that egdeloop mess (or better the lack of egdeloops) at the 'fold' that goes from the side of the nose to the side of the mouth. --- Well fix all the egdeloops on the face, some are easy to fix but a pain to look at right now

BUT I guess the biggest problem of the face is probably the side profile which looks a bit strange (and because of this the 3/4 view looks a bit strange too). I can't really explain what is off, since it is not a major flaw, but lots of small flaws combined. Get a good reference picture of a female side profile of the face and overlay it with your head.