Vulcan Raven W.I.P.

Josh_Singh

Hey here's my new project. It's vulcan raven from Metal Gear solid. Special thanks to Killing people for the ear.
Ill post the rest when I get it done. Should be soon since Im pretty motivated to finish it.

usagi

i always thought he was black...

anyways it looks good, though i think he would benefit from a more angry expression

snemmy

he wasnt black, he was Inuit so he should have more slanted eyes and a darker complexion.

also lower the opacity on the tatoos a tiny bit to let some skin detail show through. right now it looks more painted on than in the skin

malcolm

I think he was supposed to be Native American, hence the whole raven thing.

Josh_Singh

usagi:Yeah he's supposed to be inuit eskimo. But he sort of came out black huh? Could also be the fact that max is doing a weird "fisheye" camera effect in the render, anyone know how to turn that off? The face is in a neutral positon, I plan on doing some facial animation with him. Thanks for the crit.

snemmy : yeah I plan on fiddleing with the tattoos a bit more.

malcolm : yeah he's an eskimo shaman.

Marko the Maker

Use the angle zoom, it's in the lowest right corner of the interface, alog with the other viewport controls.

eepberries

His face looks a bit too soft, rounded, and his expression too "dumb" to be honest with you. The face also looks too thin and tall. Try widening the face and cutting down on the monster chin a bit. And yes, he was shaman.

Idane

Here is a better ref of his face



Though in the game he doesn't have eyebrows, here is the official art from the MGS game.



I think it would look better with no eyebrows.

usagi

native american makes a lot more sense, still he looked black in mgs

i think it would be really cool if you got some reference pictures and made him look inuit, as sort of a different take on him

i also just noticed that his ears could use a bit of work. not anatomically, but they dont look as finished as everything else. also looking at it again the teeth look really nice for some reason

moose

cool! he looks too happy/placid though..

Josh_Singh

Thanks for the replies guys. I have the Mcfarlane action figure, and quite honestly His face is fugly. I dont know but I wanted to do Vulcan Raven Some Justice, make him a bit handsome. I never thought he was really that bad a guy, He was just a soldier on the wrong side, I bet under different circumstances He and Snake could be buddies.
Also i must say He is one of my all time best boss battles.
The work in progress goes on....

The3DGuy

those boots are huge... but you know what they say about guys with big boots.... THEY HAVE BIG FEET!

Josh_Singh

of course, he goes stomping in his big boots with that big gun with the big canister of ammo strapped to his big back.
(maybe ill shrink them a bit.)

Steve Schulze

Those are some trippi proportions. You might want to add some bulk to his arms so they don't look quite so out of place.

It might be nice to get some degree of inuit appearance in there, even if you want to diverge from the original concept, particularly given its something a bit different to the normal white action man.

Come on. You know you want to.

DarthRevanII

yea, the arms are REALLY bothering me. They seriously need some more bulk in them, it makes him look wierd

other then that, the model AND skin rocks my socks

Josh_Singh

Moving along...







adjusted the arms and feet.

Mr Smo

voming along nicely ;D

Idane

I made a little drawover for the upper body because I feel it's lacking the bulk Raven had in the game.



As you can see I bulked up the arms and added a little bit of thickness around the torso. The only other aspect of the model that is bothering me are the boots. They seem very out of proportion with the legs.

I really love the skin though, great job on that.

Hunter

NIce work man.. Very stylized.. Keep the progress pics coming..

Mit Gas

I think a darker skin tone would help making your model look more like the original - your changes to his face are okay although he should appear more brute-ish (even if you want him to be more handsome) - his front is way too high; looks a bit like a conehead IMHO. Make that shorter as it helps to establish the brute-look especially. And the arms are too tiny for a monster like him!

I however already know that he will look very nice when done - just a feeling!

ironbearxl

The arms are way to skinny when compared to the toy, they need more bulk, especially the forearms. His ribs are way to spread out, and should only slightly bulge out. Also his face doesn't match the angry expression shown in the toy. His trapezius muscles (btw neck and shoulder) is too squashed down and could be lengthened a bit more. The texture could use some deeper color shadows are well, its a bit too red, throw some blue mixed with grey tones in there. It's coming along nicely.

Josh_Singh

Got some time to finish the skin and start modelling his accessorys.

















Whaddaya THink?

Slaughter

Kick Ass!
I also think the feet are too big tho...

Crylar

Awesome, I love his ammobarrel.
your model is uber cool, even though he doesn't look as 'mindless grunt' as the one in the game.

The gatlinggun should be bigger.

Steakhouse

The big feet are one of the best parts!

Brice Vandemoortele

Rendering of old polished leather on boots is interesting, but it's perhaps a bit too saturated, try to fix it or to create other areas that catch the eye like this, because we shouldn't focus on his boots I guess

(I think my english is far from understandable, I hope you get a bit of the idea huhu)

Echelon-IV

I like a lot! tho the minigun barrels are... well they should be separate. :>

Josh_Singh

Slaughter, Crylar: Thanks,Im glad you guys like it so far.I like the big feet. I shrunk the down and it just didnt look right. I feel like he needs Big feet.

Steakkhouse: yes.

Brice Vandemoortele : I know exactly what you mean. I feel like the boots might have parts that are too saturated as well. I might need to desaturate a bit.

Echelon-IV: Thanks, glad you like. Yeah the minigun barrels are separate I need to adjust the smoothing groups.

LtEthe

Kickass. Beautiful progress so far.

dynamic

you going to add nipples -_-

Enix

Looks awsome, but some of the proportions are off. I put
together a ref I found in a metal gear solid artbook.

http://img196.exs.cx/img196/5900/ravensheet4wu.jpg

hope it helps

Josh_Singh

dynamic: haha! yeah I realized he needs nips!
enix: you da man. Very Helpfull.

poopinmymouth

Wow, really coming together. I like the coloring on the pecs.

Josh_Singh

Closure...Doh Nipples!!!

rooster

looks pretty damn cool to me!

Cubik

Damn nice! The minigun really stands out, good job! Not a huge fan of his currect facial expression, but I guess his face is going to be animated...?

John Warner

great work man. no comments from me nice job.

Renaud Galand

nice job dude ! For me the skin still need a little more contrast and color variation 'n stuff. It still looks like flat color a 100% self-illum.

Anyway, good stuff !

dejawolf

hah, finally a minigun with proper ammunition supply.

pior

OMG I totally missed this one :O

Loving the nice translucent quality of the fleshy bits so far. Maybe you could add some dirt/variations here and there? I don't know much about MGS3 but according to this it seems like the action takes place in jungle environments, right?

There might be a bit too much of contrast on the leather boots tho. But besides that, he kicks some ass! Great job

Synista

MGS3 takes place in a jungle, MGS1 didn't. It took place on Shadow Moses, an island off the coast of Alaska.

Spydeys

i suggest making him look more evil by adding more shadow on his face and add rimples around his nose and between his eyebrows