SPIKE TV VGA's...what a crock (of course)
polycounter lvl 18
SO, I sat and watched that sad excuse for a video game show hoping that it would be better then last year's joke and it wasn't any better. Just one long commercial for EA Games and Mountain Dew. How sad that Vin Diesel was the only person in the entire show to thank a named development studio, Starbreeze, for their work. God I hate the f'ing world. When the guy from Criterion was up to accept the award for Burnout 3, the stupid LA Dj, Stryker, hogged up the mike.
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Snoop Dogg? What the hell...
i saw some of the last years show... considering I don't have tech tv or g4, is it all 1 channel now btw? anyways it looked dumb as hell, had absolutely nothing to do with video games had a bunch of "hot chicks" and rappers and other fake ass lamers, not that hot chicks are bad, but its a video game award show, those bitches look good but they have absolutely nothing to do with those games and their development. FUCKING LAME.
well what can I say... the world is fucked, gamedevelopers are just a bunch of naive giddy geek hos who sell out to whoever pays the most... the industry is just a fucked up business where the people who do the real work don't get any respect or financial compensation (most of the time)... ever notice how id, epic or blizzard don't even get on the charts for these kind of things? its usually the big name companies ea, midway, rockstar and all those studios owned by microsoft... true they pump out a shitload of games and the games are not bad, but u know... I notice how doom 3 is not even there, neither is world of warcraft, (might be cuz its new)
I could go on, but yeah... video game awards thing is just a bunch of fake ass actors and musicians and other tv lamjos and big name companies advertizing their shit so they could make more money, the awards are just based on selling numbers and bought off magazine reviews... what can I say... the world is lame, but thats just how it is.
Another issue of mine was that new Snoop Dogg game they showed. They made the CG cutscenes look like gameplay. They used lower poly models & textures, but the lighting still looked way to nice for it to be rendered in-game. I just don't like the new trend in showing absolutely NO gameplay in video-game commercials. As is evident in the new Call of Duty: Their Finest Hour game, and the new Mortal Kombat game. Anyway, I digress.
I hate to say this but they ripped off a lot of stuff that G-Phoria did last August. Whether that's a good thing, or a bad thing. I don't know. My current employment status' conventional wisdom states that I leave that opinion up to the people and I stay out of it. But I will say that G-Phoria has a lot of improving to do.
Honestly I thought they did a pretty good job. They appealed to the mainstream market, which is what your supposed to do to gain the widest ad-selling spectrum. It wasn't nearly as bad as last year, but I blame the publishers for trying to push celebritites at acceptance speeches, dangling them in front of our face and expecting us to be impressed. That's not Spikes fault. I was really impressed that Vin Diesel brought up Starbreeze. I really wished there had been more of that.
Just in case anyone's curious I'm currently a Sr. Designer at G4 TechTV.
And oh yeah I played with the PSP this morning and the screen is the most glorious thing I've witnessed. K Bye.
Yah dude, total BS. It's not any sort of award show at all. Didn't even give it my attention due to last years disappointment.
Snoop Dogg? What the hell...
[/ QUOTE ]My sentiments exactly Adam.
Just chuck in 100lbs of bullshit and crank that bitch to 11!
Thank god I has my G4TechTV....I loves my G4TechTV..loves my G4TechTV!
I think it's laudable that they've made "just videogames" seem so important (we already know how great they are, the average channel sufer may not). It's also nice that the show is accessible by such a [potentially] large audience. Now everyone can see where things are going and how far they've come. I guess I'm so big on this because my uncle, only 44, still calls everything "the nintendo".
Anyway would everyone rather we have yet another movie or music awards show? They're ALL worthless, let's just be happy that there's now one concerning something we care about.
eh, 2bits
Simply because there are more consoles gamers than PC. And Hence (Halo 2 in example) they will vote for what they know.
Maybe that shows the problem with popular voting. That most people voting havent played all the options presented.
Hmm, but if everyone can have their own awards show, why not Polycount? It would be a serious piece of work, but the whole thing could be done in Machinima. The 'Red vs Blue' guys could be guest presenters.
/jzero
Did anyone catch that, "Pontiac GTO Award" where the car "peels out" and gives the award to the presenter and the guy just grabs the award and says, "Pontiac GTO!" as if that's what won or something...I donno, I thought it was hilarious.
Funkmaster Flex had to fill in.
when peter jackson won for lord of the rings, did the ceo of newline come up to recive the award?
The thing is, as games get closer to movies, I hope that they get treated as such. The game designer akin to the "Director", ect.
Seriously, games make more money than most movies. 40 buck for a game versus 8 for a movie ticket. The budgets are higher and yes they do take more time to make, But I belive that videogames are a superior form of entertainment, and storytelling. Ok I feel myself starting to rant, so im done.
But then again, why would the people who REALLY made the games need to mingle with talentless pop-celebrities and going on MTV-esque awards shows? You have E3, among other developer conventions, Quakecon, an uncountable number of yearly awards given out by various gaming publications, as mentinoed theres G4 Tech TV (saw their feature on Doom3, very well done) etc etc etc so on and so forth, so who cares if some over-advertised joke of an awards show comes out oriented at the teenager with raging hormones and XXXXTREEEME stuff? We know better, and there are a huge number of people out there like us.
E3,quakecon etc are still pretty specific affairs when it comes to developers and games...awards in mags are only read by those who buy or subscribe to the publication that they are in.
I think we could do with one of those oscar or bafta award type ceromonies that cuts the bull-shit that would reward and reconise the devlopers for that hard work they put into this indutsry.
Oh yeah also bear in mind I bet many game artists do just as much work as any kylie minogue or whatever...they don't write there own songs...which is of course half the work.
john
http://www.interactive.org/
G4 TechTV televises them every year but sadly there are a limited amount of people who can even get G4, let alone actually watch it when it's being shown on air. Anyway, since this is totally my business & fortay I'll be checking back periodically today about any questions or comments you guys might have about the VGA's, G-Phoria, G4 TechTV, and Video Game Television in general.
Scott
I would like a awards ceremony that really meant something. even to the point of putting the award on the box and people would know what it meant. Like how they do for movies. You know "Winner of 4 GDC awards Including Best Game designer" and people would know who the game designer is just like they know who movie directors are. I know some games do this already "game of the year" but it's usually from a magazine, or some aricle the game designer's nephew wrote.
I can dig the gdc awards, It's probably the closest thing to the oscars game developers can get. It's a panel of Professionals recognizing other professionals on their breakthroughs and acheivements. Not who sold the most games.
(sigh) I just want games to be recognized for the complex artform that it is.
I just want games to be recognized for the complex artform that it is.
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It's too new for that, yet. Movies took about thirty years before they were taken completely seriously. Comics were around at least forty years before anyone made any strides toward any legitimately 'respectable' content (Miller's Dark Knight, Moore's Watchmen). Games will take maybe that long, so they have about ten years to go.
Wait until someone makes a good game with some popular appeal and an honestly good story, in which the gameplay isn't only about annihilating the enemy. (is that so much to ask?) Then sit back and wait for the respect to follow.
/jzero
I agree with ya rage,but I think the point is that is being made is that there is no "real" (unbiased) award ceromony that recognizes developers and breaks art of making games out into the general public domaine.
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The public domain isn't ready to accept games as art, much less appreciate them for such. I'd hazard a guess as to say the public domain would either go for these Spike TV crapathons or if there was a legitimate award show, people just plain wouldn't appreciate it if they aren't gamers, and even then, how many of those gamers are going to really appreciate when Hideo Kojima or the concept artists for Blizzard, etc etc goes up on stage to talk about games? Personally if I was up for a game-related award, I'd want my award to be appreciated by my fellow artists in the industry more than anything. Besides, awards show tend to be boring, I say, get all those nominees in a huge LAN game and see em duke it out, and pass the awards around with some refreshments! ;D
...meanwhile teen stars like Tara Reid were invited.
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Apologies for taking the thread off topic as I agree with your point, but Tara Reid is almost 30...
In short: the film makers are bigger than their films, the musicians are bigger than their music, but I can't imagine a time in which the game developers are bigger than their games.
http://www.3dawards.org/
Now we just need a red carpet, and 50 film crews to record live footage.
i don't watch award shows and i'd certainly never watch video game awards.
the vast majority of people have no god damn clue what a good video game is, because it's such a young industry to most people.
halo's a perfect example :P