Matrix movie not written by Wachowski's....wha?...
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http://www.slccglobelink.com/news/2004/1...us-785067.shtml
I assume many of you already saw this posted on Penny Arcade, but just in case, enjoy.
I assume many of you already saw this posted on Penny Arcade, but just in case, enjoy.
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1. Why the two sequels did not live up to the original, even with state-of-the-art polygonal technologies.
2. How much influence large corporations have over the media. Scary. Down with AOL!
It's funny, I was just having a conversation yesterday with a co-worker/fellow movie geek, where I said that there's probably a hidden story to why Matrix 2+3 were so bad. I said it might be because the Hollywood Boys didn't understand the original script, and made the Wachowskis cut a bunch of stuff out. Now I see that my instinct was correct, but that the Wachowskis turn out to BE part of the Hollywood Boys. "Ha ha, that's very logical!"
I distinctly remember being halfway through the first Matrix movie, thinking, "This is a really good re-working of William Gibson concepts and the Terminator backstory!" But I had no idea...
So, I wonder where one can read "The Third Eye" by Sophia Stewart?
/jzero
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And gg to the girl, hope she gets it all.
Vahl just sent me this: http://galeon.hispavista.com/cinerama/actu2/matrixdarkcity.htm
Interesting thing
Plus, wtf @ that Dark City site ... are the Wachowskis taking the piss or what?
Also, I just talked to my friend who has seen Dark City, but hasn't seen The Matrix or any of the sequels... in his opinion, Dark City wasn't a very good film... but still it was a year before the Matrix.
So, they stole the script from this woman, then stole the atmosphere and cinematography from a different film, it seems like?
Still, The Matrix is a good movie, IMHO.
And while you're at it...
http://webmirror.kobran.org/matrixgits/page1.html
Personally, I have very little love for The Matrix. Though I would like to see the Wachowski brother squirming
matrix the new king of movies hall-of-shame
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Also in current headlines, Philosophers: Aristotle, Nietzche, Plato, Hume, Bonaventure, Jesus, Mohammed, Lao Tzu, Mary Magdalene and the Gnostics, among others have risen from the grave to file a lawsuit against Sophia Stewart and the Wachoski brothers for ripping off their stories. No word yet as to how these cases will be handled.
As yet unknown are whether the Greek Goddess, Persephone, as well as the so claimed only decendants of Jesus Christ, the Merovingian bloodline, will be following suit...
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No wonder the 2nd and 3rd films were such plotless meandering action-fests, then. I don't see how they thought they could get away with something like this ... plagiarism on a global scale...
Plus, wtf @ that Dark City site ... are the Wachowskis taking the piss or what?
Also, I just talked to my friend who has seen Dark City, but hasn't seen The Matrix or any of the sequels... in his opinion, Dark City wasn't a very good film... but still it was a year before the Matrix.
So, they stole the script from this woman, then stole the atmosphere and cinematography from a different film, it seems like?
Still, The Matrix is a good movie, IMHO.
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That whole dark city rip off thing is bogus. The movies were both in production at the same time for one. And for two, I bet I could draw those similarities with a hundred movies. Take two slasher movies and I bet I'd find plenty of scenes that were similar.
As for the original topic, Im just glad it's all getting sorted out in court.
It was never meant to be original but this is something else...
matrix http://imdb.com/title/tt0133093/
this is taken from IMDB:
"Sets from the film Dark City (1998), including rooftops, buildings and others exteriors sets, were used in this film. The rooftops that Trinity runs across at the beginning of the film are the same ones that John Murdoch runs across in Dark City"
its pretty safe to say that a lot of the visual look came from dark city
yeah this could possibly explain how good the first matrix movie was by comparison to the other two... and i would also be curious to read the 'third eye' script
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http://www.949zht.com/matrix/index7.html
So this means that all those interviews with the W-Bros regarding the deeply woven meanings of the trilogy are also utter bullcrap.
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Exactly
http://www.daghettotymz.com/matrix/pirates/thepirates.html
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http://www.949zht.com/matrix/index7.html
Haven't looked through it as yet.
EDIT:OK, Its a little bit of a very badly written story. I'm not sure I can bring myself to read the whole thing. Doesn't really resemble a script and particularly not a script that would become a decent movie. There are a couple of images which are somewhat incriminating though...
While the Wachowski's clearly lifted a significant portion of the story from here, theres a lot of work thats been done on it afterwards to hammer into something that doesn't come off cheap and tacky.
Just wondering, concidering how old the story is, why this hasnt made it to other news sites (non TW)? it smells a little of the pixar suit, are there any other sources that back it up?
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She addresses that question in the last phragraph on the first page.
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"The reason you have not seen any of this in the media is because Warner Brothers parent company is AOL-Time Warner... this GIANT owns 95 percent of the media... let me give you a clue as to what they own in the media business... New York Times papers/magazines, LA Times papers/magazines, People Magazine, CNN news, Extra, Celebrity Justice, Entertainment Tonight, HBO, New Line Cinema, Dreamworks, Newsweek, Village Roadshow... many, many more!... They are not going to report on themselves. They have been surpressing my case for years..."
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Anyone else see the irony? The closest thing we have to the Matrix just tried to hide the truth from the general population. I find it kind of ironic, sad, and a teeny bit funny. Look for AOL/Time/Warner to put out the first Matrix sometime in 2050, of course we will reject it, its from AOL.
As the headline says victorious presumably there shoud be a settlement comming up soonish that we can look forward too?
Interesting that James Cameron settled out of court with Harlan Ellison years ago, after Ellison accused him of stealing from some of his old Outer Limits scripts. Ellison actually gets writing credit on 'Terminator' now.
It is very very strange about coverage, you would think after all this that it would be the top story at imdb.com, but it isn't. In fact, daghettotymz.com is the top Google hit. Something is weird there.
But this is only the sixth Zion, after all.
/jzero