Pixar outdoes itself.. INCREDIBLES IS INCREDIBLE
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Oh my god.. this movie is sooo good.. everyone was amazed by it.. in my opinion its by far the best pixar movie to date, and judging from a rather weak trailer of their new endevor.. incredibles will be tops for a while. this is not a spoilet thread, so if anyone wants to discuss details about the movie lets make a new thread, i'd be glad to chaat about it some.
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Cars, is the next one, right?
The movie starts and sets up the premise, with a look back at a "Silver Age" era of Heroes, and shows some of the action, and also how Mr. Incredible is sued for rescuing a suicide victim, and then the followup Lawsuits, of the injured passengers from urban rail rail system, damaged by bombs from the same superfight. Because of the enormous payouts by the government, superheroes are forced to retire, and blend in with society. We then rejoin the movie 15 years later where the former hero is now a cog in the bowels of an Insurance company, and father to a family, also posessed of Superpowers.
That's as far into the plot as I will go, but man I enjoyed this movie, and will go and see it perhaps 6 or seven more times, just to try and pick out the Visual Jokes. I am also not going to get into nit picky technical details of the models and the rigs, and the shaders, because, frankly while they helped to give the film a rich visual feel, the important part, is that the film was well acted, and well paced, and rolled along without dragging. it broke the 90 minute rule for animated films, and you didn't notice.
I said above that this was the best Movie I have seen since ROTK, but you know what? I liked this one better, because it hit all the "Everything I thought was cool growing up", notes, as well as visual Homages to a lot of superhero scenarios, but also James Bond films, and , of course, my all time favorite, Johnny Quest. (especially towards the end.) This was all the cool parts of the mid to late 1960's. The movie was funny, but it was also an Action film! the superhero teamwork was more kinetic , than the X-men films that always seems a little limited by the wires, the stage lighting, and the editing. Only Spiderman 2 approached this level of epic scope, and superheroic freedom in it's movements, except in this case, it was multiple supers. Fantasy is all fine and good, but fantasy has this sort of solemnity, and gravitas, that, well, feels off to me. this movie was active and ultimately exhuberant. ROTK, may have been made with love and reverence, but it was a love and reverence as an Ideal, as a platonic love. The Increadibles had the rough and tumble of a familial love. The layering of the visuals is dense, and the various visual homages to other films, and media, as well as the visual jokes are coming out fast wide and deep, and show a depth of thinking and craft on this film past just the lines on the script. it is a rare visual treat as well.
I highly recommend this film if you are fans of action movies, and pixar films. It's 'animated", but it.. isn't ..a.. cartoon if you get my meaning. For Pixar's first PG Rated film. I think that they 1.) hit it out of the ballpark. Will it presage an era of older age range animated films? who knows, but it seems to be happening, with the success of Shrek 2. Just as long as the stories and characters are good, and people don't try to milk a formula, or cheap out, the quality will be a solid basis for further development. However films like "Sharktale",which was a by the numbers film, shows that the forces that killed animation, have already corrupted one film making it just a mediocre film. Some people, that aren't fans of superheroes, or any "modern" genre, may not be all that enamoured of this movie, but the Pixar quality is solid and dense as a diamond. Go see it.
Scott
Best movie ever! It's like Scott just said...the coolness factor of this movie pushes it so far ahead of anything I've watched!
X-Men 3 can only hope to handle Iceman, like Pixar handled Frozone, damn he was slick in action. And the expressions on Dash were amazing.
Best superhero movie ever!!
it was friggin amazing...
/faints
Scott
Some of the scenes were unlike Pixar, but man were they impressive. The night scenes...and of course the water. Dude, i don't know what else to say. Oh oh, and the element of strong family values. That's the best part. I'm just blown away.
I thought Craig T. Nelson and Holly Hunter did a great job as the voices.
And Bounding, though incredible to look at just didn' do it for me.
And the release in the UK was held until the 8th of December because??? They don't have enough problems with piracy as it is?
fuckin incredible
oh, and there was this silly little teaser for some Star Wars movie or something...
interview with Brad Bird!
(going to see the incredibles later this week)
And One of my favorite things about this movie was.. The family. The interaction with each other. The small arguements, the mom and dad fighting, making up and becoming a team. I walked away with satisfaction that is was a family movie, about a family.
its kinda wierd, but im strangly attracted to Elasta-Girl. Shes H-O-T!
I went in expecting something great, because I've liked all the previous Pixar films, and I have such an afinity for comic books.
This movie exceeded those expectations. I'll no doubt try to catch this in the theater again. Just utterly amazing. Great voicework, great animation/rendering. Just jaw-dropping.
For once I would like a movie to be released here first so I can go "OMFG OMFG OMFG IT RULED". Fat chance
I wonder if Pixar was at all inspired by Dragon Ball Z for Syndrome, Survey says yes, Id imagine.
there where some points, like syndrome overlooking the cliff over the water, where.. it was 100% realistic looking, even with the cartoonish proportions.
I love the work of brad bird and I loved Iron Giant. I hope he gets to make Raygun tho.
As far as Morals being pushed on you.
Pixar is the new Disney and part of what made Disney, Disney back in the day was the heart involved, they gave you morals but in an interesting and pleasing way. Heartwarming even.
I am interested to see what pixar does in the future in the fields of 3d and 2d (yes 2d) animation.
I simply loved it and will be returning for at least one more repeat viewing. There's just so much in there, and its packed with the stuff you all know and love because Pixar are our type of people making films for our type of people.
I could go on for a considerable degree as aside from it being such a great geeks homage to the history of the hero ( and i mean from mythology onwards) it was also a great family movie in that it was essentially about a family and how all the facets of being raised or raising a family are.
That family aspect with a spin really surprised me, I wasn't expecting it to go as far as it did but I was pleased to be surprised.
Not only is it a triumph for Pixar, but for Brad Bird. I didn't know his name even though I saw and loved the Iron Giant (which was written by him), which I know is a popular film among polycounters but overlooked generally. After that studio closed down I wondered if we'd ever see an animated film of that kind of nature and dramatic caliber, and here we have the Incredibles.
As in the interview I posted the link to above, Bird makes a good point that the Incredibles is animated, but that's an incidental detail to it being a great story. All the naysayers who said people wouldn't go see CG films miss the point: people will go to see good stories. It just so happens that the medium is particularly equipped to tell the story in a breathtaking way
And as Daz and Scott have mentioned, it's hard not to get completely caught up in just the animation itself. I also noticed the cloth simulation really kicked up a notch in the film, and the 60's style evil lair was immaculately realized (funny how the Incredibles seemed to be both a great superhero film -and- a great spy-type movie?)... but honestly the two things that impressed me the most were: 1.) the office environment and very specific use of color were breathtaking in an extremely subtle way, and 2.) the expressiveness of the character animation, particularly Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl. When Elastigirl sits down and tucks her hair behind an ear or other such tiny tiny secondary motions we don't notice about people but are always there, that's what made the characters live for me.
The best movies really drag you wholesale into the experience, and Incredibles did just that. I left the theatre suddenly back in my own skin; for nearly 2 hours I had been completely somewhere else. And even though I was conscious of things (great animation, wonderful design everywhere (robots and the badguy grunt spinner-gyroscope attack crafts especially)), nothing kept me from intellectually or emotionally 'surfacing' from the film, which is something I almost always do. Bravo to Pixar and Brad Bird.