Creating a smooth-edged deboss area without making an inset first?

lastsky

I modeled the red versions on the left using inset and chamfer in max, but I can't figure out how the blue one on the right made the deboss area without any apparent inset lines. Also, I found out that the blue one recession could have more rounded corners because they aren't limited by any inset lines.

Outside of complicating things with a boolean subtraction, is there an easy way to achieve the blue version's result simply?

Thank you!

dimwalker

Remove corner connections created by inset and you should have the same thing, but it will probably give you problems down the line.

iam717

Yeah, like if you do a test and make it an edit mesh out of the blue result, might turn up the issues mentioned above.

I'd do what Frankpolygon has been saying & go to the lowest, cut out the area i need and punch the stuff in & work back up.

Hopefully NOT having to re-edit or cut anything out, even building the space above in blue 1ST work around that & then build the solid object?

okidoki

Maybe it's easier to make this inset first and "repair" this later... also depending on the tool.. here in blender: 


I start with the partly chamfered cuboid (like asked in the other thread).. So because the top and bottom are n-gons a loop/ring select (i always mix the names for the directions up ) a subdivide edges  will only select "over the corner".. dito when doing this again. Now there is an edge selection which can be beveled to get some "depth"; with some extrude in place and scale along XY only (in blender Y is up) there is the beginning of the interesting part. Some repairing with selecting the unwanted subdivs.. and -> delete -> edge loops.. we have "lost" the "closing faces" and so "simply" select the non -manifold edges and add some new face as n-gon (in blender just F for face.. from vertex/edges) then selecting the four corner edges of the "part of interest" and bevel it and again do a bevel for the outer edge..

  
Of course this now is "in the middle" and it has to be moved to the bottom... and no smooth shading here.

Again: "simply" using inset and afterwards do some repair/rebuild of the n-gon might be easier

Thank you for this opportunity to practice some small workflow.

lastsky

Thank you all for the various methods. I think there is simply no way to do it without inset, and deleting the lines afterwards will cause issues--so having 2 extra lines shouldn't be a problem.