model shoe suggestion ?

AFsoft · Dec 2021

Hi. i need advises for modeling details for this shoe :
i am modeling the shoe in 3dsmax.
my model is almost complete. but i need to know, how could i model those holes in the black areas surrounded by white areas. seems a little bit complex to me.

i have tried path deform modifier but in some situations like the middle i get un-expected results like turned angles and complex topologies.

Neox · Dec 2021

Is this to bake down to a lowpoly asset as normalmap? If so, dont bother, just do it in texturing.

I guess even for a highres model your easiest approach would be using a displacement map

AFsoft · Dec 2021

Neox said:

Is this to bake down to a lowpoly asset as normalmap? If so, dont bother, just do it in texturing.

I guess even for a highres model your easiest approach would be using a displacement map

Its not easy as well. in fact its harder. maybe i have chance if i create a custom alpha map for those details. but the curves and the middle point is a pain..

Eric Chadwick · Dec 2021

I'd redo the topology to match the cuts in the leathers, then texture those holes on one of the strips with a repeating texture.

AFsoft · Dec 2021

Eric Chadwick said:

I'd redo the topology to match the cuts in the leathers, then texture those holes on one of the strips with a repeating texture.

nice idea ! how about this ?

Eric Chadwick · Dec 2021

I would just model one side and use Symmetry to mirror it. Then deform it afterwards to make the left/right shoe shape.

AFsoft · Dec 2021

finally its over..
i used path deform modifier

i tried all methods above you mentioned but i figured the best is modeling (Quality reason's)

AFsoft · Dec 2021

another question is, how do i achieve that reflection or shadings in reference picture ?

ZacD · Dec 2021

Just a black material with a ~.1 roughness with a tiny bit of noise in the normal map.

Also a suggestion for anyone making shoes, it's really helpful to have a foot model or at least a model of another shoe to reference, even if it's quick photogrammetry done with a phone. Shoes have a very specific shape that I feel is pretty hard to eyeball.