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The Bi-Monthly ENVIRONMENT ART Challenge | September - October (74)

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Hey everyone, I'm excited to bring you the Bi-Monthly Environment Art Challenge for the months of September and October!

An opportunity for those who enjoy creating real-time 3D art to test their skills and craft a piece from the provided concepts below. The challenge is open to anyone interested and at any skill level. Remember if you don't finish in the time allotted, just keep plugging away and post when your work is finished. We want to see your work! So keep going and finish those pieces!


- ENVIRONMENTS -

HARD SURFACE:
The Lab by Wang Jie
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/bKLO1v (Alternative scene angle available in link)


STYLIZED:
Ponds by Ruslana Gus (Thanks to @engelmanna for the suggestion!)
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/lVwkeO

- PROPS -

HARD SURFACE:
G.A.M Missile Prop Design - Missile [Grand Space Opera – Light Age] by Himesh Anand
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/nY8yyK


STYLIZED:
Environment Collection I by Mike Azevedo
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/lxYb2o

- WILDCARD ENVIRONMENT -

電脳九龍城 Kawasaki WAREHOUSE by tomotubby (Thanks to @demigodssw for the suggestion!)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tomotubby/9280111627/


- RULES -

Please read all the rules before starting:
  • Try to post at least one critique for every post that you make. This will make for a better learning environment and help us all grow as artists.
  • Try your best to finish as much as you can in the time frame provided, but remember even if you don't finish by the end of the challenge we encourage you to keep pushing and finish your piece!
  • Post what you are working on in this thread so that way it's a more centralized place for advice and critique. Please avoid creating a new thread as we don't want to spam out the forums.
  • It is recommended to use a game engine to present your work. Unreal Engine, Unity, and CryEngine are very common engines that can be used but feel free to use any alternatives that you want. (Marmoset Toolbag for example.)
  • Feel free to change up your chosen concept a bit if you want! Interpret these concepts to your liking, especially if your aim is to add storytelling elements.
  • If you finish your project and decide to post it to Artstation, make sure you give credit to the concept artist in the form of a link to their profile. Additionally, it is recommended to ask a concept artist for their permission to post a 3D piece based on their work before doing so.

- RECOMMENDATIONS -

  • When you are just starting out making a scene, it can seem complicated or imposing. Take your time planning and blocking out, it will set you up for success later on. 
  • Think about how you can re-use assets, re-use textures, break it down as simple as possible and plan it out. A lot of people will break it down in their own way when they start out their challenge. Gather some reference images as well for different parts of the scene, don't be afraid to make it your own.
  • We strongly encourage you to go and look at other games and see how they make their assets as well as get concept art to give it your own feel.
The goal is to learn and grow both artistically and in your ability to both give and receive critique, but don't stress about it and remember to have fun!

Good luck!

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  • rohom3Des
    This is my first time doing this challenge, and I will go for the hard surface one. I'm really excited about how this will end 
  • alibaba17
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    alibaba17 polycounter lvl 5
    I will go with the Ponds by Ruslana Gus.

  • PuuroMan
    This is also my first time doing this challenge. I will be creating the first hardsurface enviroment in UE4. Cant wait to start working on modelling this weekend. Good luck for everybody and have fun!
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  • Blendermonkey
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    Blendermonkey polycounter lvl 8
    Hello! I'd like to give it a go even though I'm an animator by profession :)

    My questions:
    - I suppose this prop in-game would be on just one texture map (along with roughness and normal), how big would the map for something like this usually be? 2k?
    - I wanna make stars and alphas on a black BG and reuse them. In Blender I can turn the black parts transparent, and use a different UV map to place them. Would this be the way to go for a game engine?
    - If I bake the modular parts separately then add them to the mesh, the connection with the other parts won't have any bevels but will just penetrate each other. is that ok or are there ways to get around that?
    - What's a good approach to glass? I know before it was just a texture, but maybe now it's a new material made in engine and no texture is necesarry?

    Here's my train of thought for now:



  • red_33
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    Going to work on stylized environment. 

  • Pinkfox
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    @Blendermonkey Looks really nice so far!

    As for the resolution definitely make sure to do testing before committing anywhere. There is the option of splitting the character out onto it's own textures or using a non-square texture size like 2048x4096 as possible considerations.
  • demigodssw
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    demigodssw polycounter lvl 6
    Wasn't planning on participating but changed my mind after my image got selected   =)
    - Did some basic block out in Maya and exported it to unreal, also did some basic lighting. Picking up unreal after a long time and have forgotten a lot of basic stuff. 
    - All the pivots and orientations are messed up.
    - My plan atm is to finalize the proportions, prop requirements and decent lighting in block out phase and then maybe move to wall materials.
  • rohom3Des
    Hello everyone, I hope your scenarios are doing good! This is the current state of my blocking. There is something that bothers me, the squared glass wall from the left.

    It is supposed to be translucent and I don't know if I should face it as a subdivided mesh or a flat plane with a material on it. 

    I will start adding some Bridge materials on the walls to get a feel of the mood and I will try to solve this glass issue. 

    Any feedback is super welcome :D

  • demigodssw
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    demigodssw polycounter lvl 6
    @rohom3Des Blocking is looking really cool dude. For the left glass wall, I would have a plane with normal and an Emissive map to fake the glass feeling. Doing translucent things in unreal is very tricky.
  • Blendermonkey
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    Blendermonkey polycounter lvl 8
    Alright I made two UV map layouts. One for  the normals and one for diffuse. My polycount is 7300 tris right now. I baked the pillars, box legs, and the character. Everything else is just reusing those normals.

    Edit: Aaah I made him a moustache but I forgot to bake it onto a lowpoly model!


    @rohom3Des I think the left and right wall are the same material in the reference. it's just that the angle makes it so one looks more transparent plus there is a red light behind it. Keep it up :)

  • Blendermonkey
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    Blendermonkey polycounter lvl 8
    I've realized that Substance doesn't support multiple uv maps (not udims, but the same uv's differently laid up). I used one set to map the normals, and another one for texturing. Now I'm stuck and I don't know what to do.
    My options:
    -redo the uv set so there is only one and rebake
    -paint everything in Blender (but then i don't have smart materials and I have to rely on my poor handpainting skills)
    Is using multiple uv sets in games bad? Did I do this wrong? 
  • demigodssw
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    demigodssw polycounter lvl 6
    @Blendermonkey Usually we just have a single UV set for diffuse, normal, roughness metallic etc. I have only used 2nd uv set for light maps or for dirt and grunge shaders in engine.
    I think the best option will be to only have a single UV set.
  • Blendermonkey
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    Blendermonkey polycounter lvl 8
    Thanks for the info! So I redid all my UVs so that there is just one map and started texturing. For now only smart mats and generators, I still need to go in and do some manual painting. Also, I decimated the head and body since I didn't want to waste time on retopo. My model is under 5K so is what I did ok? Or is decimation frowned upon?


  • CrimsonIndustry
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    CrimsonIndustry polycounter lvl 6

    It's been far too long since I've modeled significantly in something that's not CAD; feels nice to get back to it. I'll be going for the Ponds concept by Ruslana Gus; blocked this out to get a rough feel for it. Unsure how far I'll get with this challenge, but I'd really like to finish it.
  • FruityCupid
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    I'm hopping in a little late but still going to give it a shot. Going to take the stylized environment as far as I can in the time that's left <3

  • CrimsonIndustry
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    More progress. I'm pretty pleased with how it looks so far, particularly the roof tiles here - I had fun making them: 

    But, I've reached a bit of a stumbling point. I don't really like how the rocks/stepping stones here are turning out, and after fiddling with them for a while, I just can't seem to get them to look decent. I wanted to put them on a thick slab since I felt having them go the entire height of the pond would make them too skinny, but the geometry I've chosen for the outer wall (a beveled slab) stops them from going flush with the top edge of it, which doesn't make it look too good. Plus, the rocks themselves just look "wrong". Too pillowy, too sharp, too rounded, too flat, it's all of them at the same time, somehow.

    Any suggestions on what I could try to improve them, or maybe something similar I could look at to see how it's done there?
  • FruityCupid
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    FruityCupid triangle
    progress so far! everything is uv mapped and i wanna try hand painting textures.
    the one part that isn't modeled yet is the roof. I had a hard tme visualizing what it looked like. After seeing how other users tackled it, I have a better idea on how to build it though. 


  • par94
    Hello everyone! Maybe I'm joining a bit late, but I'll try my best on the stylized pond.
    Already done a quick blockout in Blender.

  • demigodssw
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    @CrimsonIndustry Hi dude, all the shapes are looking really cool! To make the rocks feel better you can sculpt on their edges a bit. Something simple like the below image should be enough. 
    Thomas - Owner of StylizedStationcom Author at Stylized Station - Learn  Stylized Art - Page 11 of 26

    For the stepping stones, I think you should be able to curve them a bit, like what @FruityCupid has done.
  • FruityCupid
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    roof is done! 
    The gate feels pretty finished right now. Not crazy about the stone tiles but they're not the centerpiece so maybe it's not a super big deal if they're not perfect. 
    been playing around with shading through photoshop but nothing i'm confident enough to show just yet



    i didn't get as much as i wanted done today, but i did have a chance to mess with the Geometry Node Editor to get some nice random lillypads out on the water. Just have to figure out how to make them not clip into one another, and for the placement to be less random and more focused near the stone steps
  • Rektum
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    Rektum polycounter lvl 6
    This looks pretty fun. I think I'll try the hardsurface challenge. I want to get more into Unreal Engine 5. Good luck all!

  • par94
    I've done quite a lot of progress in the past few days:
    I did the highpoly version of a few assets:

    Afterwards I did some baking-texturing in Substance, and started to bring assets and textures into UE4:



    Also created a couple shaders for the sakura leaves and stylized water.
    Still got a lot of things in the to-do-list, but I love how it's starting to take shape in UE.
  • Phoenix995
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    oh i love the mood already! exited to see how it looks at the end!
  • PuuroMan
    First update! Progress and Problems. 
    I got few props done for the enviroment(light, table and walls.). Also set up some simple lighting and working on the glass material.
    Glass material needs a lot more work. I never worked on material as complex as this one. Will see if i am able to make the material look good. 
    Next step in the scene is to create models for the "fish tanks" and the ceiling lights above the operating table. Also might add detail to Op table. 


  • FruityCupid
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    FruityCupid triangle
    I've lost a bit of steam on this but maybe if i post progress I'll feel a little more motivated
    Handpainting textures has been a lot of fun so far. 

    i'm not sure how to progress with the water. part of me wants to give it a transparent effect. maybe a sss pass? it would be nice to have something in the scene move too. like ripples in the water or something
  • demigodssw
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    - Made some good progress on the low poly. Most of the prop stuff is done, working on the wires at the moment.
    - Had to take the file to 3ds max for wires. I looked into Maya and blender spline modelling, but wasn't feeling confident about it. Planning to complete all the remaining wire work in the next week.
    - Also got to know while looking for references that this place is actually a "kowloon wall city" themed arcade in Japan. I Wouldn't have guessed it in 100 years  :)



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