I can't make a fist

taki39

I want to make a fist.

ZBrush (Transpose)

MAYA (Bone)

I tried these.

However, it has become a distorted fist.

How can I make the ideal fist?

Do I need to model or sculpt fist from the beginning?

rikyu99

You don't have enough joints and the joints are in the wrong positions.  It also looks like you dont have enough resolution in the model and the proportions shapes are inaccurate.  The knuckles should be relatively lined up and higher on the hand.  You then need 3 joints after the knuckles (2 for thumb).  The last joint in chain does not influence anything.  You will need at least 3 edge loops at each joint position.  You thumb position is too low and the fingers should be model in a straighter line.

https://3dtotal.com/tutorials/t/introduction-to-rigging-in-maya-the-hands-jahirul-amin-animation-arms-shoulder-character 

Eric Chadwick

We have some good visual examples on our wiki of what good hand topology looks like, and how to bend finger joints properly. I hope this helps you.

http://wiki.polycount.com/wiki/Limb_Topology

Ghogiel

which is it? just need to pose it with transpose in ZB or do you need to bone rig and skin it for anything other than just posing? Maybe this helps to get better deformation with transpose.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/zA9EQD

taki39

rikyu99
Eric Chadwick

Thank you for your advice!
I modified the bones and topology with the advice.
The fist is more beautiful than last time.




 However, it is still a distorted fist.
 Is it possible to cure further? rikyu99 [You thumb position is too low and the fingers should be model in a straighter line.] I couldn't understand this meaning. Excuse me.

taki39

Ghogiel

Thank you for your advice!

The goal is to make a beautiful fist.

You can use any software.

MAYA, blender, ZBrush

Any software is fine.

There are two goals.

The first is the game character. (Bone, rig, skin creation required)

The second is a character figure. (No need to create bones, rigs, skins)

How to use artstation I learned a lot.

However,

Transpose can only move one object.

I can't move my nails.

Gizmo can move multiple objects.

Is it possible to move multiple objects with transpose?

taki39

Changed the size of the joint.

Ghogiel

taki39 said:

Gizmo can move multiple objects.

Is it possible to move multiple objects with transpose?

Afiak, no. You could merge the subtools, do the pose, then if you needed the nails separate, groups split them back to their own subtool.

Another way to pose in ZB, that will include all subtools, but it might not ideal in this instance, but it doesn't hurt to know it exists while you are on the topic learning about posing things in ZB is doing with a zsphere rig. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJKIOWMjB20

Axi5

Transpose Master to the rescue, it should be included in your default installation
http://docs.pixologic.com/user-guide/zbrush-plugins/transpose-master/

taki39

I used Transpose Master.

The fist is completed.