Maya Bifrost

oglu

Bifrost is now an open graph.
For now more a Fx tool but there is more in the pipe. 



https://area.autodesk.com/blogs/the-maya-blog/introducing-bifrost-for-maya/

oglu

An overview how its working.
https://youtu.be/_3-bKGZwdbQ

CreativeSheep

What I was expecting years ago; took them long enough.  From my understanding this is formally a mix of Softimage ICE now in Maya; therefore what happens with SoUP, possible merge the tools now into BiFrost.  

This is interesting, good for Maya users, although it will introduce a new learning curve. It appears Autodesk has given up on sculpting as Mudbox is near dead as there will be no more beta's. Unless Mudbox in Maya is just as slow as what has finally arrived to Maya with BiFrost node graph.

The reason why I believe Autodesk came out with BiFrost in node graph was simple everyone else has a node graph and especially Blender, although what a silly move to wait for one of your competitors, which is Free to release a node based approach for geometry etc. 

BiFrost in it's new release should have been released a long time ago, not a wait and see approach; sure some may say that is playing it safe, but is it really when Autodesk had the technology with BiFrost already for years and could have been more or less ahead of everyone else except for Houdini, which is a master in FX but a deep learning curve.

As I said, this is good news for Maya users; it will give more control along with MASH, possible MASH nodes will, if not already be available within BiFrost there is alot of control.  Since Maya is the master at Animation and Character Animation I'm guessing this will be great for rigging along with Python.

oglu

Tutorials are here.

https://area.autodesk.com/tutorials/series/getting-started-in-bifrost/

And here the download.

https://area.autodesk.com/bifrost/downloads/

oglu

It was not a wait and see approach. It really took that long to create this new software. Its not just a graph. Everything is new.
It does bypass the maya DAG its a standalone graph in the backgound. Bifrost does not need maya to compute its only using the ui. 

The Bifrost we had a year ago doesnt have that much todo with the Bifrost Board.
If you download it and take a look you will see the "old" Bifrost is still there.

keyframe_L

I am not sure if I am doing something wrong but it seems extremely slow to evaluate. Like I have to wait 2-3 seconds of maya freezing each time while the graph recompiles every time I change a parameter on the particle emitter node.

oglu

The speed depends on how much data you create. Use lower settings or stop the caculation if you do some changes. 

Bifrost is made to create highend FX its not to create something fast. Those solvers are based on the latest papers.

How much system ram do you have? Everything below 64gb wont be fun to work with. 

keyframe_L

oglu said:

The speed depends on how much data you create. Use lower settings or stop the caculation if you do some changes. 

Bifrost is made to create highend FX its not to create something fast. Those solvers are based on the latest papers.

How much system ram do you have? Everything below 64gb wont be fun to work with. 

I have 64gb.  It's like really slow on simple stuff such as emitting particles from a sphere and adding turbulence to them. I must be missing some setting somewhere or doing something wrong because I can't imagine they release it in such a state otherwise. 

oglu

Best is to post an example Graph and your problem on the AREA.
One of the developers will take a look.
https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/bifrost-forum/bd-p/6060

surya_prakash

keyframe_L said:

I am not sure if I am doing something wrong but it seems extremely slow to evaluate. Like I have to wait 2-3 seconds of maya freezing each time while the graph recompiles every time I change a parameter on the particle emitter node.

its problem with the bifrost compiler when ever we change a parameter of simulation graph it will recalculate hence it freezes.this is a known issue and they are fixing it.
just follow the link provided to get more information about this.
https://area.autodesk.com/blogs/the-maya-blog/how-tos-for-new-bifrosts-part-1/

oglu

Just pause the evaluation.
Shortcut ctrl + .

throttlekitty

Spotted this last night, it's an IK solver + features written in a Bifrost graph, pretty awesome.

  https://twitter.com/duncan_rudd/status/1160313955077767168

oglu

Agree thats cool but not ready yet. Things like that will be slower than in the maya DAG.
There are updates planned to make "rigging" much faster and more fun in Bifrost.

Next drop of nodes will be.

oglu

Some interesting compounds.




https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/bifrost-forum/post-your-compounds-here-for-sharing/td-p/8971017

oglu

Some more from Siggraph.
https://vimeo.com/355178027

musashidan

Max devs first implementations are focused on procedural modeling and building modifiers. Max/Maya Bifrost teams are actually working closely on this and sharing work. Very early stages, but the last 2 years have been the groundwork and it's expected to ramp up over the next year. I've tested it in Max and it has serious potential. A lot more high level than the(soon to be deprecated) MCG was(is)

oglu

Managed to do some Bifrost learning.
Original Thread here. https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/bifrost-forum/procedural-partly-deforming-pipe/m-p/9501074/highlight/false#M2132

Special Thanks to Maxime!



https://youtu.be/rXzqYRhATxs

oglu

Bifrost 2.1 is available.
Raycasting is a great addition. 

https://area.autodesk.com/blogs/the-maya-blog/introducing-bifrost-21/

oglu

Masterclass for Bifrost 2.1

https://youtu.be/rUY9pO7UCjs

oglu

An other modeling compound. A shell modifier.


https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/bifrost-forum/shell/m-p/9757162#M3052

oglu

From the Vision Series.
https://youtu.be/4D02lB-Tq4Y

oglu

Looks like there is something new coming for Bifrost on the 10 of December.

https://makeanything.autodesk.com/12-days-of-bifrost

oglu

Some Rigging in Bifrost.
https://youtu.be/me3ZGN_W4ZE

oglu

Tech video for Bifrost 2.2 
https://youtu.be/mnFAGtaODig

oglu

More about BF 2.2
https://youtu.be/ucnyMu3ohTw

onionhead_o

its cool and all, but the learning curve is so high. Most of the time I have no idea what the nodes do. and theres barely any explanation.

oglu

For now its for TDs. But it will become easier if all buildingblocks are in place. Or people start to build tools with it. 

oglu

An other good overview about Bifrost. 

https://youtu.be/JQIWF8W-03I

onionhead_o

thanks for sharing the overview. lets hope there will be more compounds that are more user friendly in the near future. As i liked to use it for procedural modeling. Stuff like this Procedural staircase I built using MASH.

https://youtu.be/udMkYfQgIkY

Klaudio2U

oglu said:

An other good overview about Bifrost...

L-Systems? I didn't hear anywhere else mentioned they might include this soon.  I have only seen Maxime doing his magic in Bifrost and made his own thing. 

If it true then that's really great! That one will be super interesting for sure...it can be used to make a lot of very interesting things.

oglu

For now Maximes L-system compounds are the only one in development. Autodesk is packed with core work. 

oglu

Feathers with Bifrost. 
https://youtu.be/pkD3dBc0pis

oglu

Some scattering.
https://youtu.be/OzGpQo_WNrY

oglu

More scattering.
https://youtu.be/WsjWZf8uIWc

oglu

Maxime did some great compounds to play with! 

https://youtu.be/QNjnY4fFc4s

oglu

Bifrost Slack does now have near 200 Member. A lot to learn inside.
https://join.slack.com/t/bifrostaddicts/shared_invite/zt-m6jg2ee9-jCHNbWodBNMDe5YaWUD7jQ 

oglu

https://youtu.be/B97WMBw6Zvg

If you need help there is a Bifrost Discord.

https://twitter.com/ChristophSchadl/status/1552963002902650881?s=20&t=DTu2DmM7RlRflUQmt_v3Jw