Star Citizen Thread, what an amazing game.
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I got to say I am really looking forward to playing this game when its finished.
Flying around all the super expensive real estate will be like when I go window shopping in Bond Street in London but a digital fly by version.
Star Citizen Offering A $27,000 Add-On Pack. You can view the page here link for the Legatus Pack, but you'll only be able to view the page if you've already spent $1,000 on the open-world space sim. The full article is here - https://www.pcgamer.com/new-star-citizen-ship-pack-unlocks-nearly-every-vessel-in-the-game-for-dollar27000/
I got to say I am really looking forward to playing this game when its finished.
Flying around all the super expensive real estate will be like when I go window shopping in Bond Street in London but a digital fly by version.
Star Citizen Offering A $27,000 Add-On Pack. You can view the page here link for the Legatus Pack, but you'll only be able to view the page if you've already spent $1,000 on the open-world space sim. The full article is here - https://www.pcgamer.com/new-star-citizen-ship-pack-unlocks-nearly-every-vessel-in-the-game-for-dollar27000/
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It is now up to one brave soul who is, I dare say, a God among men... a supreme being who had the astounding foresight to blow his children's college funds and retirement savings and even abandon the sanctity of marriage to save the very essence of what was to become the future of the human race!
Seriously though that is going too far...
You can read about this in here: https://www.gamedev.net/forums/topic/652115-zynga-pulls-plug-on-yoville-million-in-yocash-evaporate/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-5122806
Seems it's very profitable to be on the developing side of these types of social games -- I don't think Star Citizen is one of these, but it's in the same 'high escapism' category at least.
"Star Citizen Offering A $27,000 Add-On Pack."
I gotta say my eyes fairly watered as I'd first spotted this thread's title when initially posted; Having not played MMORPGFPS space sims before and given the amounts of real world money people are willing to spend buying in-game 'goodies' I reckon all likelihood never will. That being said, quite apart from afordability, in my opinion a crucial issue would be an accumulative affect on ones sense of reason/lack thereof as the above example acutely addressed.
Although an MMO 'no clue' noob, even I alongside I think most of the globally diverse gaming community had heard of that famous Eve-online 2014 event where thousands of online users battled each other none stop for hours on end, getting wasted controlling doll'd up spaceships costing trillions in-game credits and $300k+ real money...which I'm assuming the entire incident was essentially over bragging rights? plus isn't this just an Eve clone, anyway?
Sorry, but I simply don't get the obsessive fascination these games seem to generate.
Star Citizen is more monetization than game and there is not any valuable gameplay yet after almost 7 years. Not even the space combat is any special or innovative.
Does anyone really believe they are getting a AAA 60$ + Addon(s) style Space Opera experience if it is possible to spend over 25.000 Dollar?
That's complete bullshit.
Game developpment doesn't cost that much..
THe most expansive games being developped up to date were Destiny (200 M) and GTA V (265M).
Of course, half of that money was not even spent on actual development but on marketing, promo and advertisement.
Bioshock Infinite is a last gen game and back then, even AAA title seldom went over the hundreds of million.
Uncharted 2 cost approx. 20-40 M for example....
And do note, 200mil is still far away from the 500mil....
Every producer should take a good look at this game and realise that their role in game dev is more important that many people believe.
On the flip side if it plays well then this game could be held as one of the most ambitious and greatest games ever created.
It is frustrating to hear that developers are not ambitious or that we don't want to take risks..... That is so far from the truth, that I have to falsely grin and try to keep a truthful response to myself in hopes of not striking controversy that can cripple a career.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=VbzpAPfNKzg
Inside Star Citizen - BBC Click
Great video, well worth a watch.I just hope that the devs come out of it unscathed regardless the outcome.
If it makes it to twelve years I will buy you a ship
It's playable in an alpha state, but very buggy and laggy from what I've seen. Nobody knows when or if the game will be finished, they don't like setting hard release dates and when they do they often get pushed back or are released with a few features cut.
ZacD said:
It's like 4 separate tech demos stitched together at this point.
Oh man!...despite not being a fan of the genre but after US$250.000,000 crowd funded budget and 9yrs of work poured into it, I hope at least for the devs sake the thing gets finished, soon'sh, whereby generating acclaim alongside a long term revenue stream...fingers crossed.
Pirates of the "Caribbean: On Stranger Tides" cost 630 million to help put this into some kind of context. It's just how much ground breaking games cost nowadays.
Also GTA released back in 2013 and it's the online updates has kept it in the top number 20 slot since then. SC is already working online, its got potential and it looks amazing so who knows what will happen.
littleclaude said:
Pirates of the "Caribbean: On Stranger Tides" cost 630 million to help put this into some kind of context. It's just how much ground breaking games cost nowadays.
Wow! eye watering sum, gotta link, I'm curious why the 'Godzilla' like amount?
Anyway, not putting a too finer point on it though, there's essentially another obvious disparate aspect worth mentioning here. Whereas, this IPs funding is mainly generated by your average punter as opposed to corporate/institutional financial backing made available for most AAA projects. So when ultimately push comes to shove, I'm for people power any day of the week.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2014/07/22/fourth-pirates-of-the-caribbean-is-most-expensive-movie-ever-with-costs-of-410-million/amp/
The only groundbreaking is the monetization of the users at this point. That is done so well.
Now Roberts wants to include a "Battlefield" on the side as well... Any project manager rolled his eyes out years ago already.
I do personally like to divert to things that are not necessarily most important or high priority in but management is like a black hole of diversion that sucks out any photon of light that would go towards something of real importance.
The FPS parts looks extremely wonky. Its been years after the insane announcement of "Full Procedural universe and planets" and now there are like 3 Planets / Types with no real game play. They are far away from a "Angels fall first" or Battlefront 2 style of ground & space combat
and its an insane effort. "Hey we just do a full Battlefront on the side to balance the weapons, so its no extra effort, really!"
But worst imo, the dogfighting is super generic 2005 dogfighting. Where is the innovation, the creativity, the vision, the game design?
Its not even close to indie games like Everspace or others and those have plenty of room for improvement.
Please at least get the dogfighting well, its been 9 years. That is the essence of the genre.
Single player experience first then expand the online games one at a time shortly after releasing to help keep the hype rolling.
That needs to be excellent, not average, and a closed loop that actually works and is engaging.
For the most in-depth documentary thus far, check out this documentary series by Bootcha (the latest one, about Chris's wife Sandi, is really good):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGq4YEp8QUY
It's long, so this video will tell you everything you need to know about the single player side of the project, Squadron 42:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33ue0lzVnys&feature=emb_title
Here is this picture that Sandi posted of her attending the Moncao GP and Chris on a boat (pic is from a Reddit poster who had it removed from the official SC subreddit):
Here is a juicy article from Forbes on the money mismanagement and how Sandi strangled(!) Chris before the project started:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2019/05/01/exclusive-the-saga-of-star-citizen-a-video-game-that-raised-300-millionbut-may-never-be-ready-to-play/amp/
Finally, here's a good summary of all the shady shit they've done via a poster on SA:
SA said:
Things like breaking a contract with their engine supplier [Crytek, now suing them, going to jury trial this year], supporting a want to be actress, setting up a system of 20 + shell companies, spending millions of dollars contracting out work that they never use due to them mismanaging it, attending trade shows, but in a non official manner, [the CIG community team regularly posts about meetups etc. that they have at trade shows but they never officially buy tickets] selling off 10% of the company that the backers had paid for and profiting themselves personally, tickling in Black [me: this is not cool to shame someone for IMO but they're referring to Sandi's prior appearance in some fully-clothed tickling porn videos], wasting talented actors time, using backers money to invest in other companies, misleading journalist and backers, getting in poop flinging matches with Derek Smart [see: The Escapist article], attending the Monaco GP as research [Sandi, picture above], self doxxing, degrading other companies that they believe to be their peers and final laughing and making fun of the idiots that give them money. [There was a leak that exposed people who were asking for refunds/wondering where the project was going to be labeled as "Snowflakes" in their support ticket system]
Oh, and Chris just bought a $4.7 million mansion in LA near the end of last year, right after they got the investment from the Calders ($46 mil, allegedly for "Squadron 42 marketing"). This is referenced in the Forbes article above. They've also been paying themselves 150-200k+ salaries every year of the project as well.
https://twinfinite.net/2020/11/star-citizen-iae2950-free-flyable-ships/?fbclid=IwAR1tAv7Jr5sLFEebMqskqD-xQnm5JW_LLtkXcKT7TVjUpibOqpCfyJWwvMU